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 Asura.Alexstaifter
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By Asura.Alexstaifter 2011-04-05 08:29:35
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Clearly, if you guys dont like the way I choose to solo, you can totally pay for my FFXI account and I will play the way you ask, otherwise, stop with this.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-04-05 08:30:47
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Feel free to be gimp if you want, not gonna stop you :P
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By Leviathan.Catnipthief 2011-04-05 08:31:18
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Asura.Alexstaifter said:
Clearly, if you guys dont like the way I choose to solo, you can totally pay for my FFXI account and I will play the way you ask, otherwise, stop with this.


I think the point here is we are trying to help you, why gimp yourself horribly when you can have a much better choice and go by a LOT faster.


I'm trying not to pull the asura card out here, but your making it terribly hard not to just say your being assheaded because your from assura.
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By Asura.Alexstaifter 2011-04-05 08:31:52
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Cerberus.Kvazz said:
Feel free to be gimp if you want, not gonna stop you :P


It is not gimp if I am soloing
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By Leviathan.Catnipthief 2011-04-05 08:32:17
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Asura.Alexstaifter said:
Cerberus.Kvazz said:
Feel free to be gimp if you want, not gonna stop you :P


It is not gimp if I am soloing


Yes sweetheart it is.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-04-05 08:32:32
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Asura.Alexstaifter said:
Cerberus.Kvazz said:
Feel free to be gimp if you want, not gonna stop you :P


It is not gimp if I am soloing

Keep telling yourself that
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By Ramuh.Urial 2011-04-05 08:32:56
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Asura.Alexstaifter said:
Gimp
(adj.) Slang for a player whose choices have left them below the expectations for their level. Examples are gear, unhelpful support job, underleveled support job, missing key spells, etc. "I'm on anon 'cause my sub is gimp."


A)/dnc for me is helpful, in case of soloing I am the only who cares how that effects battle.

B)The sub is at proper level, so it is not gimped.

C)dnc doesn't use spells so that is not gimp either.



So, I am not gimp in this situation.

My friends I give you the future of FF brought to you by Abyssea.
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By Gilgamesh.Jsbahamut 2011-04-05 08:34:14
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To reply to the OP, this NM could be soloed at 75 as DRG/mage. (did as /rdm at the time)
With the way higher dps and way lower damage taken because of 15 more level, I bet it could be soloed as long as you have a way to replenish some HP. so /dnc would probably be good enough. That being said, its obvious, like others stated, that /mage jobs are faaaar better for survivability.
If you have any trouble soloing as /dnc and don't have any mage sub (shame!), you could think of using Quint Spear or Irom Ram Lance (along with PDT of course), prolonging the fight, but adding some more survivability.

Anyway, the hardest is to get passed the Ornamented Door really...
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By Leviathan.Catnipthief 2011-04-05 08:34:44
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Asura.Alexstaifter said:
It is not gimp


Yes... it is.

I've been playing DRG for a few years, while i'm not the best, I at least know how to play the job, unlike people like you that burn the job up.
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By Asura.Alexstaifter 2011-04-05 08:37:38
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Leviathan.Catnipthief said:
Asura.Alexstaifter said:
It is not gimp


Yes... it is.

I've been playing DRG for a few years, while i'm not the best, I at least know how to play the job, unlike people like you that burn the job up.


In a group dynamic^


Soloing in however manner that works for a player in turn can not be ineffective.

Just because other players do not agree with this method does not make it inferior to the player using it, only to the opinions of others who live in a set standard.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-04-05 08:38:33
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/facepalm

Ok, he dont want to understand, let's gtfo
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By Ramuh.Leif 2011-04-05 08:40:09
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Asura.Alexstaifter said:

C)dnc doesn't use spells so that is not gimp either.
Just putting this out there, evidently you have WHM leveled to 86, there's no reason for not subbing it, and I assume you have your spells caught up to at least 45, so yeah, no reason to cast it aside.

DNC: Haste Samba for 5% haste for 1.5 minutes.

WHM: Haste for 15% for 3 minutes, with additional buffs like blink, stoneskin, maybe aquaveil if you want.

DNC: Use of TP for healing yourself, with a wyvern healing breath every 60 seconds.

WHM: Use of TP for WSing due to no other use for it, casting of, let's say Dia, for an instant healing breath from the wyvern assuming you're at the proper HP amount.

Sure, you may be able to more easily have your HP topped off due to burning TP on waltzes, but this most likely won't be the case, since you'd eventually run out and your wyvern can only heal you once per minute, you'd get screwed if the battle was prolonged.

Fine, you don't have to follow our "advice", but many people are telling these things from personal experience.

So go ahead and try subbing DNC. If you lose, sub WHM. If you lose again, there's is something seriously wrong with how you're playing DRG and you ought to listen to us.
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By Ramuh.Urial 2011-04-05 08:40:23
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And people tell me I'm wrong when I say the quality of players in XI has gone to ***. lol.
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By Leviathan.Catnipthief 2011-04-05 08:42:13
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Asura.Alexstaifter said:
Leviathan.Catnipthief said:
Asura.Alexstaifter said:
It is not gimp


Yes... it is.

I've been playing DRG for a few years, while i'm not the best, I at least know how to play the job, unlike people like you that burn the job up.


In a group dynamic^


Soloing in however manner that works for a player in turn can not be ineffective.

Just because other players do not agree with this method does not make it inferior to the player using it, only to the opinions of others who live in a set standard.

/sigh I give up.


Go back to your gimp *** playstyle.


Guys, if I ever get stranded on asura, knock me the *** out, hack my account, and delete my character asap.
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By Serj 2011-04-05 08:43:28
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Ramuh.Urial said:
And people tell me I'm wrong when I say the quality of players in XI has gone to ***. lol.

Honestly, it's exactly the same as it always has been.
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By Asura.Alexstaifter 2011-04-05 08:44:50
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You continue to claim that I am not willing to listen, but you also refuse to try to understand the other side of the coin, so how can you expect me to be willing to understand, if you basicly put your fingers in your ears going "blah blah blah, you are wrong"
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-04-05 08:45:30
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If I walk past a MNK soloing with a staff I'm going to say he's gimp.

You're gimp if you're doing things intentionally wrong to be a snowflake.
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By Ramuh.Urial 2011-04-05 08:45:48
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Serj said:
Ramuh.Urial said:
And people tell me I'm wrong when I say the quality of players in XI has gone to ***. lol.

Honestly, it's exactly the same as it always has been.
Wait. You mean the losers get decent gear now? /whistle
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By Asura.Alexstaifter 2011-04-05 08:47:38
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
If I walk past a MNK soloing with a staff I'm going to say he's gimp.

You're gimp if you're doing things intentionally wrong to be a snowflake.


Implying this person you have no idea what they are doing and could just be leveling staff skill.
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By Ramuh.Urial 2011-04-05 08:48:23
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Asura.Alexstaifter said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
If I walk past a MNK soloing with a staff I'm going to say he's gimp.

You're gimp if you're doing things intentionally wrong to be a snowflake.


Implying this person you have no idea what they are doing and could just be leveling staff skill.
People don't level staff on WSNM fights.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-04-05 08:50:01
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Asura.Alexstaifter said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
If I walk past a MNK soloing with a staff I'm going to say he's gimp.

You're gimp if you're doing things intentionally wrong to be a snowflake.


Implying this person you have no idea what they are doing and could just be leveling staff skill.

Depends on his gear and weapon honestly.

Soloing doesn't suddenly absolve you from being a gimp though.
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By Asura.Alexstaifter 2011-04-05 08:50:41
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Ramuh.Urial said:
Asura.Alexstaifter said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
If I walk past a MNK soloing with a staff I'm going to say he's gimp.

You're gimp if you're doing things intentionally wrong to be a snowflake.


Implying this person you have no idea what they are doing and could just be leveling staff skill.
People don't level staff on WSNM fights.


Your giving a specific thing that was not stated in this condition.

A player is using monk, soloing using another weapon that is not their main.

That is it, not what they were fighting, where they are at and so on.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2011-04-05 08:50:54
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Gilgamesh.Jsbahamut said:
If you have any trouble soloing as /dnc and don't have any mage sub (shame!)

84 whm......

My guess is that he doesn't understand the healing breath mechanics (hence the 33% comment when af head is easily soloable). Sometimes players, especially green players, will latch onto a particular inferior mechanic for so long they cannot admit to themselves they've been doing it wrong for so long. Back in 04 I was the "mass str and attack over haste for tp phase" drg who eyeballed numbers and NO ONE could tell me different. It happens :/
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-04-05 08:50:54
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Ramuh.Rowland said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
If I walk past a MNK soloing with a staff I'm going to say he's gimp.

You're gimp if you're doing things intentionally wrong to be a snowflake.
But how else am I going to get amber lights as a monk?! Cataclysm farming!

Damn :(

Ok...

If a BRD is doing every song with a harp he's a gimp, whether he's soloing or partying.
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By Serj 2011-04-05 08:51:09
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Ramuh.Urial said:
Serj said:
Ramuh.Urial said:
And people tell me I'm wrong when I say the quality of players in XI has gone to ***. lol.

Honestly, it's exactly the same as it always has been.
Wait. You mean the losers get decent gear now? /whistle

Dude, 99% of relic users in the past we're "HUUUURRRRRR DURRRRRRRR" HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. Same with most people with good hnm/salvage gear. Only difference is that the low-middle range of players suck a bit less since they can get decent gear.
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2011-04-05 08:51:10
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if you want to sub dnc, go ahead and sub dnc and kill your nm.

but there's no reason to pretend it's not an inferior sub, and then try to argue the semantics of slang, when people have already presented good arguments as to why.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-04-05 08:51:15
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Asura.Alexstaifter said:
Ramuh.Urial said:
Asura.Alexstaifter said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
If I walk past a MNK soloing with a staff I'm going to say he's gimp.

You're gimp if you're doing things intentionally wrong to be a snowflake.


Implying this person you have no idea what they are doing and could just be leveling staff skill.
People don't level staff on WSNM fights.


Your giving a specific thing that was not stated in this condition.

A player is using monk, soloing using another weapon that is not their main.

That is it, not what they were fighting, where they are at and so on.

Still gimp.
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