.DAT Mining Thread For The June 10th 2010 Update.

Language: JP EN DE FR
New Items
2023-11-19
users online
Forum » FFXI » General » .DAT mining thread for the June 10th 2010 update.
.DAT mining thread for the June 10th 2010 update.
First Page 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
 Sylph.Cohan
Offline
Server: Sylph
Game: FFXI
Posts: 484
By Sylph.Cohan 2010-06-11 06:54:06
Link | Quote | Reply
 
ok i have been diving in the dat files on my viewer and playonline/SE/ffxi/ roms. not i see all of the file that were added, but the view isnt showing me any of it. am i doing something wrong?

someone said earlier about "adding someones list" i have no idea what they were talking about.

please help.
 Asura.Rinkydink
Offline
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
user: rinkydink
Posts: 1848
By Asura.Rinkydink 2010-06-11 07:06:40
Link | Quote | Reply
 
basically..

your ROM folders contains all the .dat (the data)

however there is a seperate folder and file for each job thats in an excel format that lists the job ability and in which "rom" that ability/spell/etc relates to.

i cant tell you exactly where that is right now cos im at work, but if you search through your folders you'll find it.

once the NEW dats are added to the excel spreadsheet then altana viewer will show it. (basically)

 Sylph.Cohan
Offline
Server: Sylph
Game: FFXI
Posts: 484
By Sylph.Cohan 2010-06-11 15:53:02
Link | Quote | Reply
 
are you talking about the excel in the altana view?
bc i know where those are. i just need to know what to add to where know.
 Asura.Djcarlos
Offline
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 96
By Asura.Djcarlos 2010-06-12 02:30:20
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Leviathan.Catnipthief said:
Asura.Daleterrence said:


That Masamune.



^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^



I just think it looks *** awesome.
doubles as a bottle cap opener!
 Shiva.Weewoo
Offline
Server: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3323
By Shiva.Weewoo 2010-06-12 02:32:26
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Hell yes, I can slice mobs to bits and pop open a beer too!
 Fenrir.Luarania
Offline
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
user: Whknight
By Fenrir.Luarania 2010-06-12 16:42:18
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Just began to crawl around the dat files having forgetting I had a tool to do so. Still new to this but I could compile a list of what the .dats are starting next week when at the store. Fairly easy to identify what each one is but I dunno what blank ones are, I simply get an unreadable and assuming thats something for model viewer?

Also if anyone knows, at what folder number does the new dats start at? I'll find out either way but knowing before hand would be helpful.
 Fairy.Ghaleon
Offline
Server: Fairy
Game: FFXI
user: MisterRyu
Posts: 2742
By Fairy.Ghaleon 2010-06-12 17:39:42
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Asura.Djcarlos said:
Leviathan.Catnipthief said:
Asura.Daleterrence said:


That Masamune.



^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^



I just think it looks *** awesome.
doubles as a bottle cap opener!

 Shiva.Flionheart
Offline
Server: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 23653
By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-06-12 18:03:57
Link | Quote | Reply
 
I don't like the masu at all.
 Odin.Zicdeh
Offline
Server: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 6558
By Odin.Zicdeh 2010-06-12 18:07:18
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Shiva.Flionheart said:
I don't like the masu at all.

It doesn't like you either.


At least Masamune isn't a gay twig like Futsuno Mitama or Amanomurakumo. Seriously, Beestinger looks more imposing.
 Bismarck.Kuroganashi
Offline
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1346
By Bismarck.Kuroganashi 2010-06-12 18:08:25
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Fairy.Ghaleon said:
Asura.Djcarlos said:
Leviathan.Catnipthief said:
Asura.Daleterrence said:


That Masamune.



^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^



I just think it looks *** awesome.
doubles as a bottle cap opener!




LOL Cool :D
 Shiva.Lorielain
Offline
Server: Shiva
Game: FFXI
user: Atrithk
Posts: 209
By Shiva.Lorielain 2010-06-12 18:16:15
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Odin.Zicdeh said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
I don't like the masu at all.

It doesn't like you either.


At least Masamune isn't a gay twig like Futsuno Mitama or Amanomurakumo. Seriously, Beestinger looks more imposing.
It's not supposed to look imposing, it's supposed to tear a mountain from the earth, or perhaps split a river in twain.
 Shiva.Flionheart
Offline
Server: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 23653
By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-06-12 18:17:24
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Odin.Zicdeh said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
I don't like the masu at all.

It doesn't like you either.


At least Masamune isn't a gay twig like Futsuno Mitama or Amanomurakumo. Seriously, Beestinger looks more imposing.

I like my great Katanas to actually look like great katanas lol.

That looks like a one handed sword.
 Odin.Zicdeh
Offline
Server: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 6558
By Odin.Zicdeh 2010-06-12 18:21:49
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Odin.Zicdeh said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
I don't like the masu at all.

It doesn't like you either.


At least Masamune isn't a gay twig like Futsuno Mitama or Amanomurakumo. Seriously, Beestinger looks more imposing.

I like my great Katanas to actually look like great katanas lol.

That looks like a one handed sword.


I think it looks more like a Greatsword personally. Sort of like a Falx or Faussar.

Very much one of those Over the top Anime-type Swords. Something that if you showed to a real fighter, they'd laugh at.

 Fairy.Specopsz
Offline
Server: Fairy
Game: FFXI
user: Specopsz
Posts: 605
By Fairy.Specopsz 2010-06-12 18:26:26
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Lakshmi.Galvaya said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:



:26 seconds, looks like a new kind of trick attack/sneak attack.

:47 looks wicked.
 Asura.Rinkydink
Offline
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
user: rinkydink
Posts: 1848
By Asura.Rinkydink 2010-06-12 18:30:40
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Sylph.Cohan said:
are you talking about the excel in the altana view?
bc i know where those are. i just need to know what to add to where know.
thats the problem pal.. u see a new "motion" and u need to "guess" what job and all that crap..

libra for example.. probably a sch JA but dont be shocked if its actually a


although if u want ur altana viewer to be wrong just stick it into any excel file it'll work with a bit of tweaking
 Odin.Zicdeh
Offline
Server: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 6558
By Odin.Zicdeh 2010-06-12 18:33:14
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Fairy.Specopsz said:
Lakshmi.Galvaya said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:



:26 seconds, looks like a new kind of trick attack/sneak attack.

:47 looks wicked.


I think that's "Libra". If it's like other FFXI, it's a scanning ability to reveal your enemies weakness(Prolly BST JA). Assuming that's what it does(And the animation certainly does hint at a "Scan" type ability), what use it has after the first wave of wikiophiles flowchart all the monsters weaknesses, I can't say.
 Asura.Rinkydink
Offline
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
user: rinkydink
Posts: 1848
By Asura.Rinkydink 2010-06-12 18:35:20
Link | Quote | Reply
 
agree "sch will have a new ability to *** the emnity" or w/e SE said.. so libra is JUST that..


Libra = legalised Windower
 Odin.Zicdeh
Offline
Server: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 6558
By Odin.Zicdeh 2010-06-12 18:37:40
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Asura.Rinkydink said:
agree "sch will have a new ability to *** the emnity" or w/e SE said.. so libra is JUST that..


Libra = legalised Windower


Pretty sure they decided not to give SCH any more JA's, If you know the job, you understand why.
 Asura.Rinkydink
Offline
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
user: rinkydink
Posts: 1848
By Asura.Rinkydink 2010-06-12 18:40:36
Link | Quote | Reply
 
oh yeh i know it.. BUT just with them saying that.. it would make sense..

but then WHM lacks behind other jobs so libra for WHM would be very nice

BUT.. libra wouldnt be THAT much of an advantage to sch anyway.


"colibri = weak to piercing" yes we know this! lol

SE did say they were going to give SCH more.. i agree with no JA but hey.. 5 min recast on libra.? makes it worthless.


make it whm and 2 minute.. makes it a NICE JA
 Ragnarok.Ezzi
Offline
Server: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
user: Serey
Posts: 255
By Ragnarok.Ezzi 2010-06-12 18:44:51
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Asura.Rinkydink said:
oh yeh i know it.. BUT just with them saying that.. it would make sense.. but then WHM lacks behind other jobs so libra for WHM would be very nice BUT.. libra wouldnt be THAT much of an advantage to sch anyway. "colibri = weak to piercing" yes we know this! lol SE did say they were going to give SCH more.. i agree with no JA but hey.. 5 min recast on libra.? makes it worthless. make it whm and 2 minute.. makes it a NICE JA

Uh uh Rinkydink, i like correcting you.
SCH has the advantage points of a WHM BLM and RDM. So yeah when your looking at elemental weaknesses i beleive SCH would benefit more than WHM, just my two cents.
 Fenrir.Nightfyre
Offline
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
user: Nightfyre
Posts: 11680
By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-06-12 18:44:58
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Asura.Rinkydink said:
agree "sch will have a new ability to *** the emnity" or w/e SE said.. so libra is JUST that..


Libra = legalised Windower
Eh? Windower can't read enmity levels aside from your own, and I don't think there's a plugin for that so technically it only has the capacity to do so.
 Fenrir.Luarania
Offline
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
user: Whknight
By Fenrir.Luarania 2010-06-12 18:46:47
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Asura.Rinkydink said:
agree "sch will have a new ability to *** the emnity" or w/e SE said.. so libra is JUST that.. Libra = legalised Windower
Eh? Windower can't read enmity levels aside from your own, and I'm pretty sure there isn't even a plugin for that so technically it only has the capacity to do so.
There isn't cause from what I recall they said it was impossible to get an accurate level due to so many factors.
Even with the enmity table.
 Odin.Zicdeh
Offline
Server: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 6558
By Odin.Zicdeh 2010-06-12 18:57:52
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Ragnarok.Ezzi said:
Asura.Rinkydink said:
oh yeh i know it.. BUT just with them saying that.. it would make sense.. but then WHM lacks behind other jobs so libra for WHM would be very nice BUT.. libra wouldnt be THAT much of an advantage to sch anyway. "colibri = weak to piercing" yes we know this! lol SE did say they were going to give SCH more.. i agree with no JA but hey.. 5 min recast on libra.? makes it worthless. make it whm and 2 minute.. makes it a NICE JA

Uh uh Rinkydink, i like correcting you.
SCH has the advantage points of a WHM BLM and RDM. So yeah when your looking at elemental weaknesses i beleive SCH would benefit more than WHM, just my two cents.

And everyone would still cast Blizzard/Cryohelix XD

I think Elements just need to be reworked to be the Same Power, bu with Damage/Accuracy bonus against targets weak to the element (Instead of just Macc)
 Odin.Blazza
Offline
Server: Odin
Game: FFXI
user: Blazza
Posts: 6473
By Odin.Blazza 2010-06-12 19:02:32
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Agreed Zic.

Also, depending on what Libra does, it could be half hour recast and still be useful. If it shows any type of weakness/resistances etc., then you're only going to need to scan each mob once... ever. At this point, it'd just be like, confirming what's already on wiki. I think it'll be almost entirely useless to the end-game community in general, because 99% of mob defences are already known/assumed. Only way I see it getting any sort of practical use is if it can show exact current HP of mob, rather than just the %'age bar we see.
 Asura.Rinkydink
Offline
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
user: rinkydink
Posts: 1848
By Asura.Rinkydink 2010-06-12 19:13:16
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Ragnarok.Ezzi said:
Asura.Rinkydink said:
oh yeh i know it.. BUT just with them saying that.. it would make sense.. but then WHM lacks behind other jobs so libra for WHM would be very nice BUT.. libra wouldnt be THAT much of an advantage to sch anyway. "colibri = weak to piercing" yes we know this! lol SE did say they were going to give SCH more.. i agree with no JA but hey.. 5 min recast on libra.? makes it worthless. make it whm and 2 minute.. makes it a NICE JA

Uh uh Rinkydink, i like correcting you.
SCH has the advantage points of a WHM BLM and RDM. So yeah when your looking at elemental weaknesses i beleive SCH would benefit more than WHM, just my two cents.


yes i know SCH would benefit more.. but what i mean is WHM is lacking behind the other mages. point is.. the way SE set out SCH.. they arent meant to be an out right healer.. nor an out right nuker.. when ur looking at "emnity" who needs it most? WHM in SE's world..



 Fenrir.Nightfyre
Offline
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
user: Nightfyre
Posts: 11680
By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-06-12 19:31:57
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Uh, what? WHM is just fine where it is. Best meripo healer, most effective endgame healer for any situation where you need raw curing power... Not seeing a problem here, it's quite clearly the best job for the role it was designed to fill. 80 cap will only enhance that with the ability to Accession buffs/cures.
 Ramuh.Dasva
Offline
Server: Ramuh
Game: FFXI
user: dasva
Posts: 40469
By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-06-12 19:43:08
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Asura.Rinkydink said:
how will accession cures help when whm already have curaga? protectra, shellra? imo the update hurts whm rather than aids it
Curaga is rather mp inefficient unless you hit a decent about of targets lol. I mean look at curaga II its about cure II lvl for what 4X the mp?

But there is always stoneskinga regenga, AOE nas whatever
 Asura.Calatilla
Offline
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
user: Calatilla
Posts: 2507
By Asura.Calatilla 2010-06-12 19:43:26
Link | Quote | Reply
 
if anything accession will just give them more AOE spells like hastega, stoneskinga and regenga, making them a more potent healer than they already are.

Would be nice to get reraisega but I doubt it :/
 Fenrir.Nightfyre
Offline
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
user: Nightfyre
Posts: 11680
By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-06-12 19:50:47
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Asura.Rinkydink said:
how will accession cures help when whm already have curaga? protectra, shellra? imo the update hurts whm rather than aids it
Curaga is rather mp inefficient unless you hit a decent about of targets lol. I mean look at curaga II its about cure II lvl for what 4X the mp?

But there is always stoneskinga regenga, AOE nas whatever
This + it's alliance-wide instead of party-wide.
First Page 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
Log in to post.