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By Fairy.Usua 2010-03-25 11:55:37
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I've noticed some drk gear has chr on it, does it have any thing to do with hate control?
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By Remora.Ninian 2010-03-25 11:56:19
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No, SE just likes throwing random stats on like AF. SMN has +INT wat.
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-03-25 11:58:11
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CHR affects 'killer' traits proc rate, IIRC.
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-03-25 11:59:18
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Remora.Ninian said:
No, SE just likes throwing random stats on like AF. SMN has INT wat.

I was also under the impression that certain Blood Pacts are enhanced by INT?
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By Siren.Delirium 2010-03-25 12:00:21
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Phoenix.Kojo said:
Remora.Ninian said:
No, SE just likes throwing random stats on like AF. SMN has INT wat.
I was also under the impression that certain Blood Pacts are enhanced by INT?

Random Stats.... INT on THF AF Hat
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By Lakshmi.Hypnotizd 2010-03-25 12:01:01
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Siren.Delirium said:
Phoenix.Kojo said:
Remora.Ninian said:
No, SE just likes throwing random stats on like AF. SMN has INT wat.
I was also under the impression that certain Blood Pacts are enhanced by INT?

Random Stats.... INT on THF AF Hat
INT affects steal success rate, obviously.
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-03-25 12:01:05
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Siren.Delirium said:
Phoenix.Kojo said:
Remora.Ninian said:
No, SE just likes throwing random stats on like AF. SMN has INT wat.
I was also under the impression that certain Blood Pacts are enhanced by INT?
Random Stats.... INT on THF AF Hat

Lock picking.
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By Remora.Ninian 2010-03-25 12:03:03
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Phoenix.Kojo said:
Remora.Ninian said:
No, SE just likes throwing random stats on like AF. SMN has INT wat.

I was also under the impression that certain Blood Pacts are enhanced by INT?

Nope, it's just skill+ and pet/avatar accuracy etc, if it doesn't specify it's for the avatar it doesn't do anything :s
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By Gilgamesh.Andras 2010-03-25 12:03:32
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i exp pld in brd gear yo
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-03-25 12:06:26
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Alot of those "random stats" are actually random ws mods for some of those jobs weapon skills.

Also Chr does affect hate very well.

Just go to some other sites forums post in the pld section about chr affecting hate and watching the emnity increase exponentially
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By Gilgamesh.Andras 2010-03-25 12:07:04
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Ramuh.Dasva said:
Alot of those "random stats" are actually random ws mods for some of those jobs weapon skills.

Also Chr does affect hate very well.

Just go to some other sites forums post in the pld section about chr affecting hate and watching the emnity increase exponentially

why i exp in brd gear yo
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By Remora.Ninian 2010-03-25 12:07:54
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Ramuh.Dasva said:
Alot of those "random stats" are actually random ws mods for some of those jobs weapon skills.

Also Chr does affect hate very well.

Just go to some other sites forums post in the pld section about chr affecting hate and watching the emnity increase exponentially

rofl @ that one thread....
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By Ifrit.Duanyu 2010-03-25 12:16:35
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I always thought chr helped with hate decay, probably wrong, but whatever.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-03-25 12:19:03
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Ifrit.Duanyu said:
I always thought chr helped with hate decay, probably wrong, but whatever.
Decaying hate is static. 60/sec.

Non-decay is 15 per utsesmi shadow lost or some formula for how much dmg you took vs how much hp you have.

Those decays are modified by specific equipment that states it though. So like that new item neck I think and burtgang
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By Pandemonium.Isiolia 2010-03-25 12:23:29
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Ifrit.Duanyu said:
I always thought chr helped with hate decay, probably wrong, but whatever.

All you need to know about enmity.

CHR does absolutely nothing for it.

All AF sets have seemingly random stats on them.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-03-25 12:25:43
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Phoenix.Kojo said:
Lock picking.
Proof?

Serious question, never seen any formal evidence it helps but I've not looked very hard since I'm not a THF.
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-03-25 12:27:42
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Phoenix.Kojo said:
Lock picking.
Proof? Serious question, never seen any formal evidence it helps but I've not looked very hard since I'm not a THF.

I don't have any, was just a speculation.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-03-25 12:28:01
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I don't know if they "proved" locking pick but it's like everywhere.

Int does mod blood bolts which thfs use all.

Pretty much every stat on af/relic is actually usuable in some way shape or form by that job. If nothing else for relic ws
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-03-25 12:31:00
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I see. Not like it hurts regardless. Thanks for the answers.
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By Phoenix.Slytribal 2010-03-25 12:31:40
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Phoenix.Kojo said:
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Phoenix.Kojo said:
Lock picking.
Proof? Serious question, never seen any formal evidence it helps but I've not looked very hard since I'm not a THF.

I don't have any, was just a speculation.

I know I don't have any evidence or proper proof, but I use to coffer pick with INT gear on, and after getting bored of taking the gear with me, I started coffer picking with not even 1 +INT. No difference what-so-ever. Had done int gear for months before the switch, and now I don't see why I even bothered having the gear.

As said, I don't have proof, but from my experience, I see INT has no effect on locker picking, but I have noticed some boost (though small) to steal rate with +INT.
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-03-25 12:32:31
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Anyway, if SE DID make AF perfect.. would you progress, or would you keep full AF till AF2, assuming it was made perfect, too?
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By Shiva.Darkmacabre 2010-03-25 12:33:28
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Not too many know but I did read that Chr affects hate somewhere. Why lots of Pld gear comes with it, and Nin AF head.
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-03-25 12:35:31
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Phoenix.Kojo said:
Anyway, if SE DID make AF perfect.. would you progress, or would you keep full AF till AF2, assuming it was made perfect, too?
A follow-up, if no one progressed from AF, the market for 60+ gear would nearly crash, No one would give a crap about HNMs, you wouldn't need their drops, nor their money to buy new gear, and the game would be boring.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-03-25 12:49:49
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Shiva.Darkmacabre said:
Not too many know but I did read that Chr affects hate somewhere. Why lots of Pld gear comes with it, and Nin AF head.
For ***'s sake, no. It's been two years since that was disproven people, get with the times.
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By Carbuncle.Ashren 2010-03-25 12:51:07
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I thought Pld gear has +CHR on it because the mods of most light based WS (not that they should be used).

As far as stats on the AF, it seems like it follows a pattern doesn't it? Dex on hands, Int on Head, Agl on feet and so forth. I think shortly after the game came out SE realized that AF as going to be largely useless on the original jobs and tried to fix that on later AF sets.

Just my observation.
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By Ramuh.Ilvex 2010-03-25 12:51:07
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Thought Pld gear came with chr on it for undead killer and resist charm imo
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-03-25 12:52:19
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Carbuncle.Ashren said:
I thought Pld gear has CHR on it because the mods of most light based WS (not that they should be used).

As far as stats on the AF, it seems like it follows a pattern doesn't it? Dex on hands, Int on Head, Agl on feet and so forth. I think shortly after the game came out SE realized that AF as going to be largely useless on the original jobs and tried to fix that on later AF sets.

Just my observation.
No sword WS has a CHR mod.

EDIT: Nor club or staff barring relic staff WS, before you bring those up.
Ramuh.Ilvex said:
Thought Pld gear came with chr on it for undead killer and resist charm imo
Correct answer, along with SE being random. CHR on Wizard's Gloves ftw?
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-03-25 12:55:18
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Correct answer, along with SE being random. CHR on Wizard's Gloves ftw?

Gate of Tartarus 60% CHR.

Not that it was MEANT for that, but I'll find a way to use ANYTHING free.
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By Seraph.Chasuro 2010-03-25 12:55:43
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Thief head has Int +5. I heard Int helps with steal.


lolz, *rumour*
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By Ramuh.Ilvex 2010-03-25 12:57:15
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Well no stat is useless, you int(or mnd i forget) is part of the equation to see how much dmg you take from magic, chr on blm again resist charm. But no one stacks these stats so they become useless
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