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By Quetzalcoatl.Falkirk 2015-03-21 05:35:37
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Shiva.Arenegeth said: »
Is there any reason not to make the pet defense augments (or any non Acro exclusive pet augments for that matter) on a Taeon set, so it doubles for PUP?

There's no major reason to go Acro-only for those augments, so doubling up is a good call if you wanna use those pieces for PUP. :)

As a person who mostly plays BST, the main consideration I have is regarding the base armor stats for hybrid+pet augments. So when shifting into pet gear mid-battle to soak up some hits it's nice to use Acro body/hands and Taeon head/legs/feet for the base Accuracy+34, STP+4, Triple Attack+2%.
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By Asura.Twignberries 2015-03-25 00:18:51
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What pets do you use shiva? Seems like all are susceptible to ice...
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By Quetzalcoatl.Falkirk 2015-03-25 07:13:27
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Asura.Twignberries said: »
What pets do you use shiva? Seems like all are susceptible to ice...

You can use a boar pet with Zealous Snort for MDB, or just power through with something like Tiger/Fish.
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By Asura.Twignberries 2015-03-25 11:24:41
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Ended up killing with tigers, but it was taking way too much damage to try and duo on difficult, earring dropped though^^
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By poorenglish 2015-03-25 12:56:55
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Shiva.Larrymc said: »
This assumes that you have ready JP 10/10, Familiar JP 10/10, the 100 JP gift, the abby axe & shanatoo pants that reduce ready by 5 each respectivly (for a total of -15).

Getting into bst recently, having fun with it. Need some clarity, is there a cap on ready recast? Merits, job point gift, aby axe, and pants give a total of -20 recast for a 10 second ready charge, correct?
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By Shiva.Arenegeth 2015-03-25 13:55:23
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poorenglish said: »
Shiva.Larrymc said: »
This assumes that you have ready JP 10/10, Familiar JP 10/10, the 100 JP gift, the abby axe & shanatoo pants that reduce ready by 5 each respectivly (for a total of -15).

Getting into bst recently, having fun with it. Need some clarity, is there a cap on ready recast? Merits, job point gift, aby axe, and pants give a total of -20 recast for a 10 second ready charge, correct?

A 10 second Ready Charge is the lowest you can get, that is correct.

We do not know whether there is a hard cap of 10 seconds however, that's just the maximum you can lower it given the available Merits/Gift/Gear options.
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By Cerberus.Warviper 2015-03-25 14:03:45
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Asura.Twignberries said: »
Ended up killing with tigers, but it was taking way too much damage to try and duo on difficult, earring dropped though^^

Twingberries can you show what pet -DT gear you used?
And what Pet Ready gear you used plz???
- If you used any augmented gear plz post what augments you have on the pieces ^^

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By Quetzalcoatl.Falkirk 2015-03-26 04:21:23
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Nukumi Armor Set

Nukumi Cabasset:
DEF:72 HP+20 STR+16 DEX+19 VIT+15
AGI+12 INT+10 MND+10 CHR+15
Accuracy+16 Haste+7%
Evasion+16 Magic Evasion+32
"Magic Def. Bonus"+1
Pet: Monster Correlation Effects +22
Set: Attack occ. varies with Pet's HP

Requires: ferine cabasset +2, Carabosse's gem, phoenix feather, 5 Chapter 1s

Nukumi Gausape:
DEF:94 HP+31 STR+17 DEX+15 VIT+17
AGI+12 INT+12 MND+12 CHR+12
Accuracy+18 Attack+18
Evasion+34 Magic Evasion+40
"Magic Def. Bonus"+2 Haste+3%
Axe Skill+9
Augments "Killer" effects
Set: Attack occ. varies with Pet's HP

Requires: ferine gausape +2, Carabosse's gem, spool of malboro fiber, 5 Chapter 2s

Nukumi Manoplas:
DEF:66 HP+12 STR+12 DEX+20 VIT+20
AGI+4 INT+4 MND+14 CHR+10
Attack+15
Evasion+11 Magic Evasion+21
Haste+3% Critical Hit Rate+3%
"Sic" TP Bonus+550
"Ready" TP Bonus+550
Set: Attack occ. varies with Pet's HP

Requires: ferine manoplas +2, Carabosse's gem, vial of black beetle blood, 5 Chapter 3s

Nukumi Quijotes:
DEF:80 HP+23 STR+24 VIT+16 AGI+9
INT+14 MND+8 CHR+11
Accuracy+15 Attack+15
Evasion+11 Magic Evasion+54
"Magic Def. Bonus"+1 Haste+7%
"Stout Servant"+1
Set: Attack occ. varies with Pet's HP

Requires: ferine quijotes +2, Carabosse's gem, square of damascene cloth, 5 Chapter 4s

Nukumi Ocreae:
DEF:52 STR+13 DEX+15 VIT+10
AGI+16 MND+3 CHR+12 Accuracy+17
Evasion+25 Magic Evasion+54
"Magic Def. Bonus"+1 Haste+3%
"Double Attack"+3% "Spur"+12
Set: Attack occ. varies with Pet's HP

Requires: ferine ocreae +2, Carabosse's gem, piece of oxblood, 5 Chapter 5s

[You can upgrade the +1 Empyrean Armor versions, they just require 10 Chapters instead of 5.]

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NQ Nukumi Gausape Testing:

0/5 Killer Effect merits
Charmer's Merlin
DEX 149
CHR 131
3000% TP Primal Rend = 2188

Charmer's Merlin + Nukumi Gausape
DEX 149
CHR 131
3000% TP Primal Rend = 2297

Still just 50% Killer Effect transfer, so maybe the 119 will have an increase. We shall see! :)

NQ Nukumi Ocreae testing:

BlackbeardRandy TP gain: 95/hit
BlackbeardRandy TP gain w/Ferine Ocreae+2: 123/hit
BlackbeardRandy TP gain w/Nukumi Ocreae: 125/hit

Nukumi Ocreae - Pet:STP+32 effect
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By Shiva.Malthar 2015-03-26 04:27:51
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Any idea how to +1 the gear yet?
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By Quetzalcoatl.Falkirk 2015-03-26 04:32:06
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No info on exactly how to do that, sorry. :(
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By Quetzalcoatl.Falkirk 2015-03-26 04:37:25
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Info from Julian's post on BG.
Nukumi Armor Set +1

Nukumi Cabasset +1:
DEF:102 HP+43 STR+24 DEX+25 VIT+23
AGI+18 INT+14 MND+14 CHR+19
Accuracy+26 Haste+8%
Evasion+36 Magic Evasion+48
"Magic Def. Bonus"+2
Pet: Monster correlation effects +24
Set: Attack occ. varies with pet's HP

Nukumi Gausape +1:
DEF:133 HP+66 STR+28 DEX+24 VIT+28
AGI+19 INT+19 MND+19 CHR+19
Accuracy+25 Attack+25
Evasion+69 Magic Evasion+59
"Magic Def. Bonus"+4 Haste+3%
Axe skill +11
Augments "Killer" effects
Set: Attack occ. varies with pet's HP

Nukumi Manoplas +1:
DEF:92 HP+27 STR+15 DEX+32 VIT+32
AGI+7 INT+6 MND+23 CHR+16
Attack+25 Evasion+24 Magic Evasion+32
"Magic Def. Bonus"+1 Haste+4%
Critical hit rate +4%
"Sic" TP Bonus +600
"Ready" TP Bonus +600
Set: Attack occ. varies with pet's HP

Nukumi Quijotes +1:
DEF:113 HP+50 STR+38 VIT+25 AGI+15
INT+23 MND+12 CHR+15
Accuracy+25 Attack+25
Evasion+24 Magic Evasion+80
"Magic Def. Bonus"+3 Haste+8%
"Stout Servant"+2
Set: Attack occ. varies with pet's HP

Nukumi Ocreae +1:
DEF:71 HP+15 STR+19 DEX+22 VIT+16
AGI+25 MND+5 CHR+19
Accuracy+27 Evasion+55 Magic Evasion+80
"Magic Def. Bonus"+2 Haste+3%
"Double Attack"+4% "Spur"+15
Set: Attack occ. varies with pet's HP
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By Bahamut.Mrscoot 2015-03-26 07:46:39
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What's the items for 109 and 119?
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By Odin.Nappy 2015-03-26 07:53:23
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Any of that really worth making? If so what order?
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By Quetzalcoatl.Falkirk 2015-03-26 12:58:32
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Bahamut.Mrscoot said: »
What's the items for 109 and 119?

Still trying to find out the specific info for the 119 versions, but the 109 Armor requirements are here.

The final upgrade step should almost certainly be:
Reforged Nukumi Armor + Slot-specific Upgrade Item + Vagary Armor Piece Component + 8 Chapters

Odin.Nappy said: »
Any of that really worth making? If so what order?

Most of the reforged Empyrean +1 pieces are marginal upgrades, but I'd say at least a few of them are worth the resources to make.

Nukumi Cabasset +1
Master: Great to wear when you and your pet need the accuracy (favorable correlation only).
Pet: Attack bonus when monster correlation is favorable should be quite substantial. Pet: Accuracy+24 in these circumstances is welcome also.

Nukumi Gausape +1
Master: Still need to test this when possible, but even if the augmented Killer effects stayed at 50% conversion, it's still a major improvement over the Ferine body. With no buffs, Dual-Wield Taeon is better for TPing.

Nukumi Manoplas +1
Master: Slightly worse than STR/Atk/Acc/DA Acro Gauntlets for Ruinator, but not by much. These are likely best for Rampage.
Pet: With Pet TP being so valuable now, these gloves are even more amazing than before. Most useful for anyone spamming Ready moves as fast as Charges are available. And just like before, use something else during Unleash since they'll do nothing when Pet TP is already at 3000.

Nukumi Quijotes +1
Master: Really high STR, so nice for Ruinator unless you already have STR/Atk/Acc/DA Acro Breeches.
Pet: Awesome hybrid piece with Acc/Atk+25 for the Master and Stout Servant+2 giving Pet:DT-4%. You can achieve something similar with Alluvion armor, but great to get if you haven't bothered with that yet.

Nukumi Ocreae +1
Master: When you have marches/haste, these are better than Xaddi/Ejekamal/etc.
Pet: As before, good synergy with the Manoplas for squeezing every bit of power out of your pet's Ready moves. Pet:STP+35 effect is pretty substantial.

I'd say the recommended order for making these depends on whether or not you've invested in Alluvion armor already.

No Alluvion Armor:
Body > Legs > Hands = Feet > Head

Some, or lots, of Alluvion Armor:
Body > Feet > Hands > Head > Legs

Only really care about Pet stats?
Head = Hands > Feet > Legs
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By Shiva.Malthar 2015-03-26 18:14:33
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I wonder if the Nukumi Gausape +1 will now beat Phorcys for Cloudsplitter or Primal Rend... 'Must test!
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By Shiva.Larrymc 2015-03-27 17:50:28
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Regarding bst ready - I assume this is known but I dont see it specifically mentioned in the guide.

You can begin any Ready command in a "ready" gear set that has shannato legs, abby axe offhand, empy hands, then switch to you proper pet: m.att/m.acc or pet:att/acc gear set .5 seconds after the ready command. This enables 10 second ready recast, but full potency ready TP moves.
my macros looks like this (in general) for bst:
/equipset 20 (this is my ready equipment set)
/pet "Fireball" <me>
/pet "Stink Bomb" <me>
/pet "another magical TP move goes here" <me>
/pet "another magical TP move goes here" <me> <wait .5>
/equipset 55 (this is my magical pet gearset)

Same idea for physical
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By Quetzalcoatl.Falkirk 2015-03-28 06:35:03
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Shiva.Larrymc said: »
You can begin any Ready command in a "ready" gear set that has shannato legs, abby axe offhand, empy hands, then switch to you proper pet: m.att/m.acc or pet:att/acc gear set

The Empyrean Hands need to be worn during midcast in order to get the Pet: TP Bonus. :)

And for anyone who has (or is making) Aymur, the initial 500 TP bonus happens at precast and the hidden 500 TP bonus occurs during midcast.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Falkirk 2015-03-28 10:14:24
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Not sure which boss drops this, but there's a new belt for Pet jobs:

Incarnation Sash
DEF:15 Pet: Accuracy+15 Ranged Accuracy+15
Magic Accuracy+15
Double Attack+4%
Lv.99 BST/DRG/SMN/PUP
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-03-28 10:15:29
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Looks more geared towards SMN and PUP than BST imo.
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By Siren.Attaxia 2015-03-28 11:20:35
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The only stat BST doesn't benefit from is the Pet ranged acc, which on new gear is almost always just paired with Pet acc 1:1 (so that PUP doesn't have an inv. crisis carrying a separate pet ranged acc set I can only assume). It's BiS for all pet TP moves for BST.
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By Shiva.Larrymc 2015-03-28 16:54:29
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Quetzalcoatl.Falkirk said: »
Shiva.Larrymc said: »
You can begin any Ready command in a "ready" gear set that has shannato legs, abby axe offhand, empy hands, then switch to you proper pet: m.att/m.acc or pet:att/acc gear set

The Empyrean Hands need to be worn during midcast in order to get the Pet: TP Bonus. :)

And for anyone who has (or is making) Aymur, the initial 500 TP bonus happens at precast and the hidden 500 TP bonus occurs during midcast.
Well crap I could have sworn that I tested the hands precast and they worked - but tried again and your right they dont. Thanks for this.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Trulusia 2015-03-29 12:02:09
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My LS downed Tojil again last night with BST BST BST GEO RUN COR.
Much smoother than before. The first 25% is EASILY delt with by two stepping light on Cloudsplitter. We actually missed this due to an unfortunate stun. Lost out on Gambit bonus as well. That being said, single step still took him to 80%, and ready move spam lowered him quick enough. We found that staggering Unleash is the best way to do it, so that if he roars not everyone's pet is terror'd during their unleash. Cor didn't even have to wild card, he died during the third unleash.

It was a solid run. No deaths except the RUN at the start of the fight. 6 minutes for 100% to dead. Could easily shave off another minute if we hadn't missed the first chain. Very fun, and honestly very reliable way to kill him. Geo kept him silenced the whole time, so he really didn't even hurt pets. Razorfangs were hitting for 14-15k.

Now, we did a Utkux run after with a normal party setup, and we realized that Utkux actually lends himself pretty well to a pet strategy. Drop the RUN for another Geo to reduce his magic attack, and he's really not much of a threat. The only problem I have found is that pet selection is pretty garbage. Why the hell don't we have a single pet that resists ice, and like 60% of them are weak to ice?

Utkux is really only annoying because of his stupid paralyze aura. He doesn't do much damage, and his range isn't very high. Ready moves can't be paralyzed, so the main source of damage is never going to be a problem.

Anyway, does anyone have any ideas about pet selection? Need to be able to make liquefaction so GEOs can mb off his aura, but that's basically all I can think of. Only problem there is that Lizard is the only one with liquefaction, and it's going to be weak to Utkux. Any ideas?
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2015-03-29 15:09:43
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So is pet accuracy still gimped? :/
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By Quetzalcoatl.Falkirk 2015-03-29 16:48:24
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Quetzalcoatl.Trulusia said: »
My LS downed Tojil again last night with BST BST BST GEO RUN COR.

Very nice, good job. :)

Quetzalcoatl.Trulusia said: »
Anyway, does anyone have any ideas about pet selection? Need to be able to make liquefaction so GEOs can mb off his aura, but that's basically all I can think of. Only problem there is that Lizard is the only one with liquefaction, and it's going to be weak to Utkux. Any ideas?

How about Tegmina Buffet -> Swooping Frenzy = Fusion and then Fire MB on that? You're right, we could use more pets with various elemental strengths.

Cerberus.Tikal said: »
So is pet accuracy still gimped? :/

The situation is slightly better compared to a year ago.

Lowest Accuracy = 858 (Boar)
Highest Accuracy = 934 (Ladybug)

Average Pet Accuracy among all 119 pets is ~880.

Add Pet Accuracy Job Point (+10), Gift @125 (+10), Familiar Job Point (+15), Shiromochi+1 (+114) to that and you get 1029 Accuracy before adding on any gear bonuses. For high iLvl content, you can use Quicksteps/Torpor/Drachen Roll/Infrasonics/Hi-Freq Field/etc to assist your pet too.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2015-03-29 16:50:10
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It's not capped at +30 from gear anymore then? Good.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Falkirk 2015-03-29 16:58:33
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They patched that a number of months ago, yeah. :)
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By Trulusia 2015-03-29 19:15:39
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Quetzalcoatl.Falkirk said: »

How about Tegmina Buffet -> Swooping Frenzy = Fusion and then Fire MB on that? You're right, we could use more pets with various elemental strengths.

Swooping frenzy and Tegmina require two charges. Swooping has merit due to it's def down, but the boar might make a worthwhile tank with zelous snort so we'll have sweeping for that.

I feel dumb, but somehow I forgot that the COR can ws. Hot shot and sniper shot are both liquefaction, so we can use the strategy I used on tojil. Tp on trash, ws boss. Should be fine. Going to try it sometime this week.
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By Sylph.Oraen 2015-03-29 23:24:02
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So, I'm curious as to why the ready sets and the pet DT sets in the OP aren't a uniform gear set. Do the Acro or Taeon sets have any specific bonuses in regards to each function, or was that just your personal preference to have each set be different? I've been planning to build both BST and PUP, so if I could build the sets on Taeon only it would be a big money saver for me.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Falkirk 2015-03-29 23:52:08
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Quetzalcoatl.Falkirk said: »
There's no major reason to go Acro-only for those augments, so doubling up is a good call if you wanna use those pieces for PUP. :)
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