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Farmers Almanac more accurate than climate science
By Jetackuu 2014-02-21 18:23:31
It isn't so much that I don't think global warming exists I just have other concerns more urgent.
Honestly, personally:
I don't care about the argument at hand, the fact of the matter is that energy should be much cheaper and not reliant on a limited resource, controlled by a small handful of entities.
The best way to improve the grid right now would be to build more nuclear power plants, newer, that aren't ancient and could fail due to being old models, even if they've been remodeled to newer versions.
I realize that it's more complicated than that, but still...
I don't agree with the idea that we should bury our waste, but I also don't agree that we should keep using old reactors because they refuse to build new more efficient ones because people are scared of nuclear power.
(I also don't care about Iran having nuclear power plants, the level of enrichment difference between power plant grade and weapons grade are worlds apart).
That being said I'd eventually like us to get to be less reliant on the grid, but to do that we'd need better storage capabilities, and pretty much more efficient panels very widespread.
Yes, I'm in agreement with Tesla and that power should be free.
By Jetackuu 2014-02-21 18:25:03
It's cute how a person who isn't a scientist thinks they know more than a consensus of scientists does, without having ANYTHING backing them up.
It would be funny if it weren't so sad. True, but ask yourself this:
Why do you try? because at times when others retort the nonsense (like Pleebo) I learn something, so something good comes from your neocon antics.
Even if that's twisted as ***.
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By Lakshmi.Deces 2014-02-21 18:27:57
I think we better look back to the wonderful Farmers Almanac.
By Jetackuu 2014-02-21 18:30:05
I think we better look back to the wonderful Farmers Almanac.
When you present evidence that's arguing the right point then maybe people will give a ***, but you didn't even argue the right point, you fail sir.
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By ScaevolaBahamut 2014-02-21 18:33:49
Of course they would say that it is man-made. If they said otherwise, they would either be a heretic or out of a job.
They are being paid to say that it is man-made.
I know that is a hard concept for both of you, but people do what they are paid to do. If you were given a large sum of money to go around saying the earth is flat, I'm pretty sure you would do it in a heartbeat, and screw with your integrity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TenureYeah, and the sad thing is, throwing studies out there without definite proof and proclaiming "This is happening because if you look at the numbers on an uneven leap year during a harvest blue moon while tapdancing a polka upside down in an airplane dropping fast enough to eliminate the gravitational pull of Venus, you will see that I'm right and you are wrong" isn't "just cause" enough to remove tenure from said "professors" or "scientists."
I'm not saying tenure ensures the veracity or lack of bias of any given study or even that tenure itself doesn't have problems, just that you can't say that researchers have a financial interest in espousing one view on a given subject over another.
I mean, preventing that is the entire point of tenure.
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By Shiva.Onorgul 2014-02-21 18:34:42
You simply ask why in 3 paragraphs, I will give you a short answer. One side wants to tax the hold dog5hit out of everything no matter the excuse and will not stop until doing so. I'll be brief: You're a *** idiot.
Related note: I feel really odd when debating what currently passes for today's conservatives in the United States. When I say, "What about the day after tomorrow?", I am quoting one of the most polarizing conservative icons of the past 100 years, one whom inspired many of the long-time politicians and pundits on the Republican side of the aisle. One major politician made all of his staff read the work I'm citing.
By Jetackuu 2014-02-21 18:37:08
You simply ask why in 3 paragraphs, I will give you a short answer. One side wants to tax the hold dog5hit out of everything no matter the excuse and will not stop until doing so. I'll be brief: You're a *** idiot.
Related note: I feel really odd when debating what currently passes for today's conservatives in the United States. When I say, "What about the day after tomorrow?", I am quoting one of the most polarizing conservative icons of the past 100 years, one whom inspired many of the long-time politicians and pundits on the Republican side of the aisle. One major politician made all of his staff read the work I'm citing.
Neocons don't realize that the entire political sphere in the US has shifted to the right hardcore and they have blinders on and think it's the opposite.
Obama is mostly a centrist who passed legistlation that Republicans wrote 20 years ago, hell Reagan (their savior) wouldn't get past the primaries today). He'd probably be considered a RHINO and be called a socialist in disguise.
The mental gymnastics it takes to support these clowns is ridiculous.
Oh before people start playing partisan: I really dislike both parties, but there isn't a party that gets close to my ideals, so I side with what's closest, as both Republicans and Democrats (politicians) are fascist dickwads.
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By Lakshmi.Deces 2014-02-21 18:48:18
The day after tomorrow, wasn't that the name of that stupid movie you all base you eco religion on and the prophet's name is al gore? Silly trick, please... I dare you to name one tax that democrats don't love. Can ya, huh?
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By fonewear 2014-02-21 18:49:42
I'm super serious you guys.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2014-02-21 18:50:55
You simply ask why in 3 paragraphs, I will give you a short answer. One side wants to tax the hold dog5hit out of everything no matter the excuse and will not stop until doing so. I'll be brief: You're a *** idiot.
Related note: I feel really odd when debating what currently passes for today's conservatives in the United States. When I say, "What about the day after tomorrow?", I am quoting one of the most polarizing conservative icons of the past 100 years, one whom inspired many of the long-time politicians and pundits on the Republican side of the aisle. One major politician made all of his staff read the work I'm citing.
Neocons don't realize that the entire political sphere in the US has shifted to the right hardcore and they have blinders on and think it's the opposite.
Obama is mostly a centrist who passed legistlation that Republicans wrote 20 years ago, hell Reagan (their savior) wouldn't get past the primaries today). He'd probably be considered a RHINO and be called a socialist in disguise.
The mental gymnastics it takes to support these clowns is ridiculous.
Oh before people start playing partisan: I really dislike both parties, but there isn't a party that gets close to my ideals, so I side with what's closest, as both Republicans and Democrats (politicians) are fascist dickwads.
you got that back asswards buddy, but then again you probably think George Bush was Conservative. Everything has moved left.
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By Jetackuu 2014-02-21 18:51:05
The day after tomorrow, wasn't that the name of that stupid movie you all base you eco religion on and the prophet's name is al gore? Silly trick please...
It's funny, I don't even like Gore. Never saw that movie, try again.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-02-21 18:51:45
Whether CO2 is responsible for climate change or not, it blows my mind that there's people who deny its effects on health. In Milan there are frequent no-cars days because the air becomes so polluted that people get sick just opening the window.
And honestly all this talk of "personal agenda" that the usual paranoid characters make sounds really stupid. Unless we actually have oil industrialists here posting on this forum I sincerely doubt anyone of the posters has a personal agenda on the matter, they just give their honest opinion.
By Jetackuu 2014-02-21 18:52:12
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »you got that back asswards buddy, but then again you probably think George Bush was Conservative. Everything has moved left.
and they have blinders on and think it's the opposite. called it
By Jetackuu 2014-02-21 18:54:00
Whether CO2 is responsible for climate change or not, it blows my mind that there's people who deny its effects on health. In Milan there are frequent no-cars days because the air becomes so polluted that people get sick just opening the window.
And honestly all this talk of "personal agenda" that the usual paranoid characters make sounds really stupid. Unless we actually have oil industrialists here posting on this forum I sincerely doubt anyone of the posters has a personal agenda on the matter, they just give their honest opinion.
Mexico City was notorious for having horrible pollution due to the mountains trapping it in if I remember correctly, but that was years ago, never kept up with it.
Carbon emissions from vehicles/factories are obviously bad for you, but people care more about $ than their health.
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By Lakshmi.Deces 2014-02-21 18:54:26
Whether CO2 is responsible for climate change or not, it blows my mind that there's people who deny its effects on health. In Milan there are frequent no-cars days because the air becomes so polluted that people get sick just opening the window.
And honestly all this talk of "personal agenda" that the usual paranoid characters make sounds really stupid. Unless we actually have oil industrialists here posting on this forum I sincerely doubt anyone of the posters has a personal agenda on the matter, they just give their honest opinion. You guys might want to get some catalytic converters & EGRs then, they work wonderfully.
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By Shiva.Onorgul 2014-02-21 18:58:37
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »you got that back asswards buddy, but then again you probably think George Bush was Conservative. Everything has moved left. Everything has moved in both directions (read another way: I actually agree with you, for once, in part). Government has gotten huge and controlling directly as a result of Republican maneuvering, which is a strongly leftist shift. On the other hand, the continually increasing income gap, trammeling of workers' rights, and extension of benefits to those with the most net worth is strongly rightist.
What has been happening for the past 30 years and has really reached a fever pitch in recent history has been a move towards polarized extremes. This is exactly why centrists like Barack Obama and, yes, George W. Bush, have been fairly ineffectual politicians in terms of influencing legislation (remembering that legislation isn't the President's job). Anyone who happens to recall the 2000 election with clarity should feel a little bad that Bush basically got used like a hand-puppet by his handlers in the RNC. Only a little, though.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2014-02-21 18:59:04
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »you got that back asswards buddy, but then again you probably think George Bush was Conservative. Everything has moved left.
and they have blinders on and think it's the opposite. called it
Called what? Making your wrong point then saying but I'm sure you will disagree? Umm yeah of course I'll say the opposite of your obviously wrong conclusion. If politics moved to the right we would not have the "Leviathan" that is our federal government. Would we have more or less government agencies if we went to the right? The answer would be less. Would we have more or less government programs handing out money to people if we moved right? We would have less.
You have to be a complete retard to not see this. It's Jet so I am not surprised.
By Jetackuu 2014-02-21 19:11:15
The Republicans are mostly responsible for the large increase in government, both parties are responsible for that, fascism is a large part of both parties voting platform. edit: well the increase during 2000-2008, but hey.
You don't understand what it means for the sphere to move though, which is clear by your response, so I don't blame you, you're ignorant. However I do blame you for being proud of being so wrong.
My comment was accurate and if you look beyond our own borders it's apparent.
But you missed my part about not liking fascism, so of course you missed that bit.
By Jetackuu 2014-02-21 19:12:56
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »you got that back asswards buddy, but then again you probably think George Bush was Conservative. Everything has moved left. Everything has moved in both directions (read another way: I actually agree with you, for once, in part). Government has gotten huge and controlling directly as a result of Republican maneuvering, which is a strongly leftist shift. On the other hand, the continually increasing income gap, trammeling of workers' rights, and extension of benefits to those with the most net worth is strongly rightist.
What has been happening for the past 30 years and has really reached a fever pitch in recent history has been a move towards polarized extremes. This is exactly why centrists like Barack Obama and, yes, George W. Bush, have been fairly ineffectual politicians in terms of influencing legislation (remembering that legislation isn't the President's job). Anyone who happens to recall the 2000 election with clarity should feel a little bad that Bush basically got used like a hand-puppet by his handlers in the RNC. Only a little, though. The election that Gore won? yeah I vaguely remember that.
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By Lakshmi.Deces 2014-02-21 19:15:09
On point and more questions than answers from a democrat
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By fonewear 2014-02-21 19:19:21
On point and more questions than answers from a democrat
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By Jetackuu 2014-02-21 19:20:19
I'm not clicking on that, but I think I've seen that...
If it's the video I'm thinking of: that lady is bat ***crazy.
edit: yup, video I was thinking of...
WHY DO i REMEMBER THIS CRAP????!!!???
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By Shiva.Onorgul 2014-02-21 19:28:48
On point and more questions than answers from a democrat
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STFU AND TAKE MY MONEY!!! FIX NOW!!!Oh, good, someone finally demonstrates what a liberal wingnut looks like.
I really don't get the claims that people on this site are liberal. I haven't seen anyone who even comes close in terms of far-left insanity to compare with the nonsense we see posted here daily in terms of far-right insanity. I almost wonder if the far-right conspirators are afraid to make fun of the real socialists and hippies because it would weaken their pandering insults against all the centrists, moderates, and apathetics that populate the P&R forum.
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By Lakshmi.Deces 2014-02-21 19:30:53
It is what it is...
By Fumiku 2014-02-22 01:41:35
On point and more questions than answers from a democrat
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2014-02-22 02:31:14
ter tomorrow, wasn't that the name of that stupid movie you all base you eco religion on and the prophet's name is al gore? Silly trick, please... I dare you to name one tax that democrats don't love. Can ya, huh?
Friendly reminder that democrats were for the payroll tax cut that lowered taxes on lower/middle class people and republicans worked to get rid of it.
Any conservatives left in this thead? I have a question.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-02-22 03:11:42
Ohai
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2014-02-22 03:30:19
You're not anti science enough. Anyone else?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-02-22 06:19:52
Friendly reminder that democrats were for the payroll tax cut that lowered taxes on lower/middle class people and republicans worked to get rid of it Didn't it help the rich the most? I mean, most of the 1% are the working rich, and they benefited from the tax cut the most.
So, in your mind, that's a bad thing, even though it also helped the middle class and the poor, but if it at least looks like it helps the rich, it is an evil thing and must be destroyed.
Besides, it was enacted bipartisan, and it was allowed to be expired bipartisan. Blaming the Republicans only just shows how ill-informed you truly are.
Which, for you, is par for the course.
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By fonewear 2014-02-22 08:05:29
You're not anti science enough. Anyone else?
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This exceptionally cold and snowy winter has shown that government climate scientists were dead wrong when it came to predicting just how cold this winter would be, while the 197-year old Farmers’ Almanac predicted this winter would be “bitterly cold”.
Bloomberg Businessweek reports that the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s Climate Prediction Center (CPC) predicted temperatures would be “above normal from November through January across much of the lower 48 states.”
This, however, was dead wrong. As Bloomberg notes, the CPC underestimated the “mammoth December cold wave, which brought snow to Dallas and chilled partiers in Times Square on New Year’s Eve.”
CPC grades its prediction accuracy on a Heidke skill score, which ranges from 100 (perfect accuracy) to -50 (no better than playing pin the tail on the donkey while blindfolded).
CPC’s score for October’s weather predictions for November through January was -22 and the September weather prediction for October through December was at -23.
“Not one of our better forecasts,” Mike Halpert, the Climate Prediction Center’s acting director, told Bloomberg Businessweek.
What actually happened this winter? A “polar vortex” swept down and caused every state except Florida to experience snowfall and brought about 4,406 record low temperatures across the U.S. in January along with 1,073 record snowfalls.
The most recent winter storm that slammed into the eastern U.S. last week knocked out power for more than 1 million people in the Southeast and caused 21 deaths along the East Coast. More than 2,500 flights were delayed last Friday and 1,500 were canceled from East Coast airports.
Who could have predicted such a harsh winter? The Farmers Almanac did, according to a CBS News report from August 2013. The nearly 200-year old publication hit newsstands last summer and predicted that “a winter storm will hit the Northeast around the time the Super Bowl is played at MetLife Stadium in the Meadowlands in New Jersey,” and also predicted “a colder-than-normal winter for two-thirds of the country and heavy snowfall in the Midwest, Great Lakes and New England.”
“We’re using a very strong four-letter word to describe this winter, which is C-O-L-D. It’s going to be very cold,” Sandi Duncan, the almanac’s managing editor, told CBS News in August.
While there was thankfully no snow on Super Bowl Sunday, those sad Broncos fans trying to get back home from New Jersey had some trouble as snow started falling the day after the most important football game of the year.
The Midwest and Great Lakes regions also saw terribly cold weather and record levels of snowfall this winter. Major Midwest cities like Chicago, Cincinnati and Detroit have seen record levels of snowfall. Chicago alone saw 45.8 inches of snow by the end of January, and, as of Friday, the Great Lakes were 90 percent frozen over.
The Midwest and New England were hit with frigid weather and snow for long periods of time. So long, in fact, that there were propane shortages and natural gas prices spiked due to increased need for heating and supply bottlenecks.
The Farmers’ Almanac makes predictions based on planetary positions, sunspots and lunar cycles — a prediction system that has remained largely unchanged since its first publication in 1818. While modern scientists don’t put much stock in the almanac’s way of doing things, the book says it’s accurate about 80 percent of the time.
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/02/20/report-farmers-almanac-more-accurate-than-govt-climate-scientists/#ixzz2tu9uyfOX
http://dailycaller.com/2014/02/20/report-farmers-almanac-more-accurate-than-govt-climate-scientists/#ixzz2tu9uyfOX="1" href="This">Libtards are gonna cry over this one
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