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 Siren.Clinpachi
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2009-07-26 03:53:40
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Ironguy said:
ps: askar korazin is still bad even with amanomurakumo, which i find it laughable you think a relic's 20acc will cap your accuracy 24.7


No. Just no.
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By Asura.Artemicion 2009-07-26 03:55:13
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I was gonna give this guy cool points for the Quantum of Solace avvy, but sheesh. He just blew it for me.
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2009-07-26 04:02:28
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Clinpachi said:
No. Just no.


no what.

A) nuevo coselete with accuracy/store tp augments,

or (and alternatively better),

B) usukane haramaki

quit being bad at this game.

and thank ye for noticing, atre'; that's casino royale though, hate to be blunt :|
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2009-07-26 04:04:04
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Ironguy said:
quit being bad at this game.

Ironguy said:
ps: askar korazin is still bad even with amanomurakumo, which i find it laughable you think a relic's 20acc will cap your accuracy 24.7.


I don't even need to say ANYTHING... to that.

LOL

EDIT: did you seriously just suggest nuevo for SAM?
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By Bahamut.Rumaha 2009-07-26 04:06:37
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http://www.ffxiah.com/item_sets.php?id=95568

Capped acc. w/ Korazin w/o Hasso on. 6 Hit Amano. 21% Haste.

Cant TP in Askar and cap acc wut?

Im holding my answer for 6 hit Hagun > 5 Hit Rindo, till someone parses them side by side.
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2009-07-26 04:09:02
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Rumaha said:
http://www.ffxiah.com/item_sets.php?id=95568

Capped acc. w/ Korazin w/o Hasso on. 6 Hit Amano. 21% Haste.

Cant TP in Askar and cap acc wut?

Im holding my answer for 6 hit Hagun > 5 Hit Rindo, till someone parses them side by side.


Mother... freaking... DING...

<3

And ty for being logical and WAITING for parses and more augment results.

:D
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By Asura.Artemicion 2009-07-26 04:09:08
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I'm 99% sure yours is from Quantum of Solace. I just saw it a few nights ago. The opening for Casino Royale was with all the cards and blocky polygon dudes dying from the suites.
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By Bahamut.Rumaha 2009-07-26 04:10:08
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Set HAD Ninurtas and Mars lol, but made is a ***load more attainable.

Also, a HEFTY 9% DA+, so 19% /war, Thats also beast for TP consider u take 6 hits for TP ^^
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2009-07-26 04:11:59
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Rumaha said:
Set HAD Ninurtas and Mars lol, but made is a ***load more attainable.

Also, a HEFTY 9% DA+, so 19% /war, Thats also beast for TP consider u take 6 hits for TP ^^


http://www.ffxiah.com/item_sets.php?id=95509

Seems we have similar taste LOL.
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By Bahamut.Rumaha 2009-07-26 04:12:55
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Clinpachi said:
Rumaha said:
Set HAD Ninurtas and Mars lol, but made is a ***load more attainable.

Also, a HEFTY 9% DA+, so 19% /war, Thats also beast for TP consider u take 6 hits for TP ^^


http://www.ffxiah.com/item_sets.php?id=95509

Seems we have similar taste LOL.


yea i had Yoich too lol, but Tathlum for Acc
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2009-07-26 04:14:48
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Clinpachi said:

I don't even need to say ANYTHING... to that.

LOL

EDIT: did you seriously just suggest nuevo for SAM?


hey guess what.

User submitted image

You're not even capping accuracy on Greater Colibri with a relic.

yeah, i'm totally in the wrong, right?

Also, Nuevo Coselete is suggested due the fact that you need an extra four Store TP to hold a six-hit without spamming Kaiten with Amanomurakumo: But you totally knew that already.

Stop upgrading Amanomurakumo, for it appears you still have alot to learn, good sir.
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By Asura.Artemicion 2009-07-26 04:17:43
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You know... The only time you really need to worry about accuracy is when you're below about 80ish%. Arguing on whether you're capping or not is pretty silly considering this is Final Fantasy XI. Quite simply: Miss happens. That and no drop =/
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2009-07-26 04:17:54
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Ironguy said:
Clinpachi said:

I don't even need to say ANYTHING... to that.

LOL

EDIT: did you seriously just suggest nuevo for SAM?


hey guess what.

User submitted image

You're not even capping accuracy on Greater Colibri with a relic.

yeah, i'm totally in the wrong, right?


You seem to be forgetting food and to check the little Hasso radio button there.....

You also seem to be forgetting that the relic weapon occasionally does triple damage which makes 2% double attack paired with the pole grip, warrior sub job, and brutal earring more important for DoT.

Please feel free to GTFO

Even without food and hasso 91%... i'm still not sure why you are even trying.
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By Asura.Artemicion 2009-07-26 04:21:33
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10,000 Days wallpaper <3
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By Bahamut.Rumaha 2009-07-26 04:24:02
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OH HAY I CAN DO IT TOO!

Cuch puts me over cap, can use Behe+1 and just use Mythril +1 if i wanted, OR, Turn Hasso on
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2009-07-26 04:24:02
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so you spam sushi on anything harder than birds? cool, keep being bad while i side with 5-hit amanomurakumo and destroy your theory on being bad

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You also seem to be forgetting that the relic weapon occasionally does triple damage which makes 2% double attack paired with the pole grip, warrior sub job, and brutal earring more important for DoT.


comes to show how smart you are, realizing that double attack is MAD GOOD

(for the people that can't tell i'm being rhetorical: it's good, but not stupidly good like you're making it out to be, see: rukenshin sam/drg vs sam/war)
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2009-07-26 04:25:43
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Rumaha said:
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OH HAY I CAN DO IT TOO!

Cuch puts me over cap, can use Behe+1 and just use Mythril +1 if i wanted, OR, Turn Hasso on


ROOOOOOOOOOOOFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

This is seriously senseless, i'm done lmao.
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By Bahamut.Rumaha 2009-07-26 04:27:45
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I meatn Cerb+1, not Behe+1,

I forgot to say, im elvaan, we Base lower Dex, but that Dex is actually /nin, /war is either the same, OR 1 less i forgot, either way, Cuch caps acc, losing 15 atk, i can live w/ that
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2009-07-26 04:29:54
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Rumaha said:
I meatn Cerb+1, not Behe+1,

I forgot to say, im elvaan, we Base lower Dex, but that Dex is actually /nin, /war is either the same, OR 1 less i forgot, either way, Cuch caps acc, losing 15 atk, i can live w/ that


It almost doesn't even matter

*boops the hasso box*

problem solved.

Here i thought it was common knowledge that Haub+1 was best until relic, then askar finally comes into play. I mean seriously.
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2009-07-26 04:31:19
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greater colibri = ffxi, good job you two; i bow down to how correct this theory is.

in other news: it appears your perfect-sam set is missing a black tathlum and a cuchulain's mantle mr. clinpachi; you may be interested in using them sometime in this life time, because,

you know,

nuevo coselete and askar korazin totally aren't nearly on the same scale or anything,

right.

sigh.
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2009-07-26 04:32:52
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Ironguy said:
greater colibri = ffxi, good job you two; i bow down to how correct this theory is.

in other news: it appears your perfect-sam set is missing a black tathlum and a cuchulain's mantle mr. clinpachi; you may be interested in using them sometime in this life time, because,

you know,

nuevo coselete and askar korazin totally aren't nearly on the same scale or anything,

right.

sigh.


Excuse me but YOU are the one that put colibri in the calculator.

Are you seriously still going to try?

Oh and by the way i made that set well before those items came OUT.

Samurai excellence since 2004. Unfortunately can't say the same for you i guess.

EDIT: Nuevo body, is a waste of space for samurai, it's better put for PLD or DRG...
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By Bahamut.Rumaha 2009-07-26 04:34:51
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Ironguy said:
greater colibri = ffxi, good job you two; i bow down to how correct this theory is.

in other news: it appears your perfect-sam set is missing a black tathlum and a cuchulain's mantle mr. clinpachi; you may be interested in using them sometime in this life time, because,

you know,

nuevo coselete and askar korazin totally aren't nearly on the same scale or anything,

right.

sigh.


Your the one who said u cant cap acc w/ askar body w/ a relic Gkt.

Cuch isnt absolute, can use Cerb+1 and stay capped.(But i like cuch better), and considering this whole thread seems to be pitting Hagun Vs. That augment weapon ON greater lolibri, id say using Greater's in Acc cap Calcs is right no?
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2009-07-26 04:39:18
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Your the one who said u cant cap acc w/ askar body w/ a relic Gkt.


GREATER. COLIBRI (where Tomoe outperforms Amanomurakumo, bet you didn't realize that).

ARE YOU LISTENING TO THE WORDS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF MY eMOUTH.
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2009-07-26 04:45:31
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There... i set the mob to level 99 for you... with higher evasion.

Oh but wait i actually added food and hasso...

So lets please be done with this uselessness, this is really my last attempt to point out what i have been trying to all along... and what other people have TRIED to help explain...

from a person who once posted in this forum.

"quit being bad at this game."
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2009-07-26 05:05:54
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sole sushi +1, you heard it here kids

and a lv99 mob's going to have atleast 386~ evasion btw, aka you're flat out lying with your mad good sushi build that'll actually parse 76.9% accuracy

see: you need a usukane haramaki or nuevo coselete still

nonetheless, point being (especially seeing how nothing's even that level, you're just blowing it out of proportion for your own self respect), use:

with amanomurakumo, spamming kaiten on anything einherjar-esqe (see: harder than GREATER COLIBRI), and you'll have yourself a good time with your five-hit that'll most likely parse 94-95%~ accuracy in there (very good). otherwise, hnm (where kaiten sucks really bad), pizza + http://www.ffxiah.com/item_sets.php?id=59157 is your friend (rajas ring fulltime over a toreador's to adjust to amanomurakumo's delay).

Your point is still entirely invalid as to how Askar Korazin is even remotely good in any situation, and it will forever remain as terribad (just like Rindomaru), due to alternatives available; bottom line, enjoy your aids.
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2009-07-26 05:11:55
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Ironguy said:
sole sushi +1, you heard it here kids

and a lv99 mob's going to have atleast 386~ evasion btw, aka you're flat out lying with your mad good sushi build that'll actually parse 76.9% accuracy

see: you need a usukane haramaki or nuevo coselete still

nonetheless, point being (especially seeing how nothing's even that level, you're just blowing it out of proportion for your own self respect), use:

with amanomurakumo, spamming kaiten on anything einherjar-esqe (see: harder than GREATER COLIBRI), and you'll have yourself a good time with your five-hit that'll most likely parse 94-95%~ accuracy in there (very good).


I was waiting for the moment you just completely blitzed your credibility. Review this post, it doesn't matter how much proof that askar body is better then haub with RELIC weapon, you'll draw up more assumptions or ways to try to get out of the obvious.

You can point out whatever you seriously want at this point, and say whatever because quite frankly.... not a single person is going to listen to a SINGLE thing you say in this post.

You simply stated:
"You cannot get 95% accuracy with amano and askar body"

And it was simply shown:
"Yes you *** can"

Now you try to twist and turn the mobs eva and level at every beck and call just to get it where you would like it.

From this point forward i'm not banging my head on my keyboard or even reading what you reply as, because i'm sure it'll be your newly twisted way that amano+askar is gimp.

I hope you at least get some sort of jolly satisfaction from being THAT HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE with your samurai. (And i hope you never own a amano, because it would be the biggest waste of a relic weapon ever seen.)
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2009-07-26 05:18:32
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Clinpachi said:
You simply stated:
"You cannot get 95% accuracy with amano and askar body"

And it was simply shown:
"Yes you *** can"


solution: wear mythril grip +1, optical hat, hachiryu kote, life belt over your standard correct equipment.

IT MAKES SENSE.

Of course you can fudging cap your accuracy with that piece of garbage,, but just because you can, you don't alternatively gear like an idiot with your other fourteen slots (as well as food, as shown).

What's your point about that trash: I've got all night, just like with every other time I've(or rather, the Union) has dethroned that thing.
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By Siren.Enternius 2009-07-26 05:21:47
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@Ironguy

Clinpachi said:
"quit being bad at this game."
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2009-07-26 05:35:46
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i prove points with my chivalrous chain


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pretty bad at this game, yeah, totally; remind me how you're right, mr. mediocre
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By Odin.Blazza 2009-07-26 08:33:04
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I'm not gonna try and pretend to understand half of the pointless SAM debate, but wtf does that screenshot have to do with anything? You're a good player because you can kill dark ixion with 7 people? whoop dee doo.
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