Opinions On FFXI's Life.

Oh, I agree. I don't really think there's a clear target to blame. It's pretty much inevitable, they're trying to drag it out not keep it going forever.

Indeed but this game doesn't need more than 50-100k subs to keep being profitable.

This is the reason i think this game will live long still. I dare to say that FF14 will become a F2P way sooner than FFXI.

It'd be ironic if we actually gain new players in FFXI because of FFXIV. There could be hordes of WoW and LOTRO players who joined FFXIV for something different, and then heard from their friends in-game that FFXI is better. Here's hoping, anyway.

Yup, haha.

All of this is why the best updates were

Neo-nyzul/Limbus2/synergy augs

It took all the gear you knew and loved and worked hard to get and made it better. Neo nyzul not so much but at least you had an advantage if you had done as much old nyzul as it took to get gear from that.

Salvage 2 would have been awesome as well if it had come out about a year earlier. There were other circumstances that slowed that though i'm sure. (Tsunami/FFXIV1.0 massive failure)

I love FFXI, but I'll never understand how people can really think it's attractive for new players. This game is like its own dimension in the mmo world, just too different imo...and with the lack of partying during the "learning phase" it fails to keep the attention of a newbie for very long.

The fault isn't completely theirs, yes, they made the content and refuse to regulate events in a way that is user friendly to those new to the event, and to the benefit of those rerunning to boost their gear, but when it comes down to it, it is the players alienating other players, just because they don't have the reward for beating the event they are trying to do to get the reward they need to do the event they are trying to do.

I don't know about that. Ultima Online went downhill years ago, and it's still around. And it still isn't free-to-play.

That's just it though. It's different. That's why I chose to play FFXI, and not another WoW clone. I don't know why all of these game studios think that for an MMO to be successful, it has to follow the WoW model. Even Ultima Online tried that many years ago by upgrading the client interface to use hotbars etc - the playerbase cried foul over it, but EA Mythic claimed it would "ease the transition" for players leaving WoW. Needless to say, the client was an absolute failure, and EA Mythic had to go back to the drawing board.

For me, learning how to play a game with a different interface and different playstyle is all part of the experience that makes the game fun.

Not all ppl can play all the time cause A) due to RL aka work family
Or B) they are either duoing or solo cause everyone has a ego and wont help without a payment somehow. I personally play when i can or when i get to. I try and the wife been doing abby/dyna to toet ower relic/empry for awhile but takes awhile to do with limited timw to play, and dont have a LS to help get new armor/weapons.

You're overgeneralizing. Like anything else, you need to put yourself out there a little bit and try. Idk about Cerb, but Bismarck is full of social LSs which you can find on this site, or /shout, or don't shut yourself off and solo/duo all the time.

I've made friends by helping others moreso than others helping me.

Cerberus.Nekdal said: »
B) they are either duoing or solo cause everyone has a ego and wont help without a payment somehow. I personally play when i can or when i get to. I try and the wife been doing abby/dyna to toet ower relic/empry for awhile but takes awhile to do with limited timw to play, and dont have a LS to help get new armor/weapons.

You're overgeneralizing. Like anything else, you need to put yourself out there a little bit and try. Idk about Cerb, but Bismarck is full of social LSs which you can find on this site, or /shout, or don't shut yourself off and solo/duo all the time.

I've made friends by helping others moreso than others helping me.

True but we need the +2 items to even if it only drops 1 or sometimes none at all cant afford to server jump we do have a LS but its only the 2 of us sometimes 3 (including my brother) but trying t get him caught up when he does get a chance to log on.

I don't really follow what you're saying, but bringing more people to farm +2 items and splitting with them will generally improve efficiency up to about 6man.

Yes i know already did that and ppl left the run so we desided to do it the long way, would like pol to help to move this faster but i'v had alot of ppl argueing over the drops/lotting stuff which piss's ppl off. But like i said its the time/hours to play same to get the new gear/weapons but we are alot of steps behind and everyone wants to rush and get everything done.

I think that's the point, he can't find other people to help.

I'd play for monstrosity.

'bout it.

Yeah , with 2 servers on it, Just Like Lineage 2 or something

Hoarding for the inevitable Geo RME/legendary/wtfever that makes it even more amazing of a job.

With Draylo still running around Jeuno.

Indeed, nothing is sadder than a blind fan that refuses to see the inevitable.
and 10-15 years? LOL!

455 people on Bismarck @7:30 pm est. Good stuff. I love how Matsui is completely oblivious to this, or just doesn't care. If I was the producer, I would at least acknowledge the dwindling numbers, and promise some interesting content in the near future. As of right now, I don't even know whether the new delve is coming next update, or even when the freaking update is...

No wonder they delayed the census. I highly doubt it was for the reasons they specified.

... 455 people... on a weekday, no less.

Wow.

A week ago, Bismarck was hovering around 700-800 players on a weekday.

... A weekday.

I know the population around Saturday was around 800-900 players at late evening, California time. A week before that, it was around 1000 to 1200 players.

That's somewhere around 20% to 45% drop in population in the past two weeks. Hopefully that's just a fluke and there are other explanations as to why.

540 on Valefor, 9PM eastern. :\ It's sad. Would be nice to see the old numbers of 1.5-2k+ from 2005-2008 or so, but I don't think that would happen unless SE merged all servers, turning two-three servers into one.

Nah, even if a lot of NA player quit 14 after 6 months, it still has faithful JP player base to sustain current sub model, they will never play any NA MMO, so only 14 left.

Might have something to do with the recent maintenance, all the AFK bazaars haven't logged back in. Not that this is saying anything for people actually playing the game, but it might for the numbers being so low.

Oh boy one of these threads... if you have these thoughts its cool to keep them to yourself instead of making a thread about it...

Why don't we just do that with everything, and then we could get rid of all these pesky threads cluttering up my ah screen

forum was created for xi discussion dude, don't be salty when you encounter it

Will be another one of these threads in a week from now, don't even bother giving an articulate response lol. Those who enjoy the game will play it, those that don't will quit. Why you need to know their opinions, idk.