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 Leviathan.Kincard
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By Leviathan.Kincard 2013-01-22 07:54:12
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Sylph.Peldin said: »
It's like 5-10 minutes per expedition dude, lol. Well, 15 max I guess, but even a 3-man group doesn't need 15 minutes for most of them.

Realistically, I don't think anybody would bother gathering their friends/shout group/whatever to do a single expedition (unless you're tri-boxing since that's just yourself, so no gather time etc), so I'd say an actual run of Meebles would probably take about an hour for you to do 5 missions (One rank line basically).

As for whether the items will be good, it's very likely it's going to be the dat mined items from the last patch since that was when the new Meebles was supposed to go live, and just browsing over it I think Sublime Breastplate, Himthige, Caudata Belt, Dumakulem's Ring and Uguisu will probably be the most usable items from it. Couple other interesting items if you're missing NNI/Salvage2/ShinyVW gear though I think.

I think the only annoying thing about them expanding Meebles is that every time they add more expeditions, it means you're going to have to be more picky about where you spend your pheromone sacks. ATM my group wants something from pretty much every boss so we didn't really mind needing to wait about a month between each Umagrhk because we wanted shots at Paalaka Gloves/Gusterion/Akasha Chaps/etc anyway. Oh well.
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By Ragnarok.Ravant 2013-01-22 07:56:32
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Valefor.Sapphire said: »
really hoping they toss the Bhaflau v1 armor drop fix in this update.
9 runs since a rampart popped a NM for my static, capping out on v1 pieces for everyone and this zone is holding out on us... /wrists.

I enjoy meebles cause I do it with friends, but the loot we want is never dropping.
Dunno how long people will want to keep doing it for points (for gear you can sell).

I hear ya on the ramparts... I think me and friend were on like our 4th or 5th run with no NMs popping doing 2 full ramparts all of those runs.
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By ScaevolaBahamut 2013-01-22 07:58:54
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Fenrir.Sylow said: »
I LOVE MEEBLES! <3

every day i'm meeblin'

Anyway, the great thing about meebs is that if you're REALLY stuffed for time, you can just bring a full party with an eye to the boss run and hit Level 1 objectives the whole way up, which should take any group capable of handling the boss less than 5 minutes.
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By Valefor.Sapphire 2013-01-22 08:06:06
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Doing a batch of 5 runs takes 60-90min in my experience, accounting for 'afk/rl a few minutes' between 6 people as well as someone usually job changing for boss (lol treasurehunter).

I pretty much just commit to blocking out 2hrs of time for meebles when its being done.
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By Leviathan.Kincard 2013-01-22 08:07:04
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Ragnarok.Ravant said: »
I hear ya on the ramparts... I think me and friend were on like our 4th or 5th run with no NMs popping doing 2 full ramparts all of those runs.

You shouldn't only do 2 ramparts. Whenever I do Bhaflau these days, I manage to hit every single rampart if I only stay around them until 50% unless they pop an NM, in which case I stay the full time. I have heard few cases of ramparts spawning NMs after 50% if they hadn't before that. Usually I have time to kill LBC for a shot at Linen too, if that's your thing.

At least half of my runs I'll have at least 1 rampart spawn NMs. If nothing else, at least you can get more shots at cotton coinpurses. It's a decent consolation prize. =P
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By fractalvoid 2013-01-22 08:25:05
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Considering meebles would be just for the sake of it, yeah, would rather just leave it for when we have less to do.

Elanid Belt.
You know you want it.
(if it doesn't come from new expeditions I'll look like an ***, but I really can't see where else it'll come from)
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2013-01-22 08:26:06
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I remember being upset about bhaflau drops 2 nerfs ago. WHEN WE HAD TO DO SALVAGE UPHILL, BOTH WAYS, IN THE SNOW!
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By Ragnarok.Ravant 2013-01-22 08:38:51
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Leviathan.Kincard said: »
Ragnarok.Ravant said: »
I hear ya on the ramparts... I think me and friend were on like our 4th or 5th run with no NMs popping doing 2 full ramparts all of those runs.

You shouldn't only do 2 ramparts.

We only need the Usu and Ares 35 thats why we're only doing those 2.
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By Shiva.Gib 2013-01-22 08:53:00
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I love meebles, I however do not like the 20 hour recharge time. Ideal would be 8 hours imo, on how fast you can tear through them
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By fractalvoid 2013-01-22 08:56:57
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Shiva.Gib said: »
I love meebles, I however do not like the 20 hour recharge time. Ideal would be 8 hours imo, on how fast you can tear through them

Agreed, but I'm not sure if they'll adjust this, considering they tripled the amount of stock that can be held.

SE:
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2013-01-22 09:06:40
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Upping the stock does nothing. Just means you can do the event in bulk twice a month instead of once every 5 days.
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By Asura.Aikchan 2013-01-22 09:37:27
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Upping the stock does nothing. Just means you can do the event in bulk twice a month instead of once every 5 days.
20hrs refill, 36 sacks per month. So every 4days 4hrs you can complete a full tier in 30-45mins. So unless you do nothing else in the game but burrows, ya that's really slow... but If do others events and have no time to even do 1 per day, and just 1 day in the week to do a tier, it's good enough.
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By fractalvoid 2013-01-22 09:37:38
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Essentially what I meant. They provided a "fix" that in all reality didn't address the real problem, but they could still say they "adjusted" something.

Not too sure if they'll adjust the cool-down timer though. They're trying to draw this out by limiting how often it can be done and making people carefully choose which expeditions they'll do, the once per week or whatever they'll go.

It makes sense but is kinda lame cos the event itself is pretty fun.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2013-01-22 11:51:36
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Valefor.Esdain said: »
Siren.Kalilla said: »
I don't think there will be a whole lot for dat mining.

...but they said there would be diamonds in the rough. Sounds like a job for mining to me.
I still think it will be a small update~ just my opinion.
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By Asura.Vyre 2013-01-22 12:00:42
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Yay, more Meebles! I mean, sure, we just fully completed original Meebles, and we were getting ready to do more megaboss runs and such... now though... guess we just chug along and gather buffs.

:D I wonder what they'll release to top Abatteur's? :D
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By Bahamut.Dannyl 2013-01-22 12:21:19
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I welcome more meebles. !!
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By Fenrir.Shigaru 2013-01-22 12:23:00
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Yay! More Meebles. I love those furry ***.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2013-01-22 12:25:50
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Asura.Aikchan said: »
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Upping the stock does nothing. Just means you can do the event in bulk twice a month instead of once every 5 days.
20hrs refill, 36 sacks per month. So every 4days 4hrs you can complete a full tier in 30-45mins. So unless you do nothing else in the game but burrows, ya that's really slow... but If do others events and have no time to even do 1 per day, and just 1 day in the week to do a tier, it's good enough.
In reality, its 5 days, unless I screwed up somewhere.
Presuming you go wednesday at 7pm:
thurs 3pm 1/5
fri 11am 2/5
sat 7am 3/5
sun 3am 4/5
sun 11pm 5/5

Unless youre running your event at 11pm on sunday night, its 5 days.
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By Bahamut.Dannyl 2013-01-22 12:38:15
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that looks like a pretty *** up schedule
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-01-22 12:46:21
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Give us bonanza already!! I need to dream.
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By fractalvoid 2013-01-22 12:54:01
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I want meeble spells for blu :O
meeble warble~
coolest name
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By Mookies 2013-01-22 14:03:05
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Valefor.Sapphire said: »
really hoping they toss the Bhaflau v1 armor drop fix in this update.
9 runs since a rampart popped a NM for my static, capping out on v1 pieces for everyone and this zone is holding out on us... /wrists.

I enjoy meebles cause I do it with friends, but the loot we want is never dropping.
Dunno how long people will want to keep doing it for points (for gear you can sell).

This.
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By Bahamut.Dannyl 2013-01-22 14:08:42
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Yep, its a hit or miss on the drops.

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By Valefor.Volkom 2013-01-22 14:10:20
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Mookies said: »
Valefor.Sapphire said: »
really hoping they toss the Bhaflau v1 armor drop fix in this update.
9 runs since a rampart popped a NM for my static, capping out on v1 pieces for everyone and this zone is holding out on us... /wrists.

I enjoy meebles cause I do it with friends, but the loot we want is never dropping.
Dunno how long people will want to keep doing it for points (for gear you can sell).

This.
oh god please!

and
hi sapphire! :D
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2013-01-22 14:11:04
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Bahamut.Dannyl said: »
that looks like a pretty *** up schedule
My point was, unless you're with 2-5 other people who dont work or go to school, its every 5 days, maybe sometimes every 4 days 4 hours if you can make it work.

Even if you do the sunday 11pm run, then what? You gonna go Thursday at 3am? Then you're going to go Monday at 7am? Liar liar, pants on fire
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-01-22 14:18:25
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Bahamut.Dannyl said: »
Yep, its a hit or miss on the drops.

Assistant Exp# 4
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Research Exp# 4

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I lost interest in meebles after a solid 8 bosses without a single drop. Not even loss and other npc'ables. Thf and th boon, and i think the only thing I've ever seen drop was the worthless pdt legs. Only reason its remotely tolerable in vw its because you can spam, waiting 5 days or more or spending a mil per person for a chance at marginally useful gear... It definitely needs some work.
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By Valefor.Sapphire 2013-01-22 15:19:43
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My favorite things about meebles so far:
-Having alcedo gauntlets drops then arguing amongst ourselves who should lot them (because noone wanted or would use them)
-BLM excited to get Ankylosis wand only to complain about how bad it was later. lol.
-Having a blustery dagger rot.
-Prize powder is a helluva drug.

I keep holding out hoping i'll get an Adflictio for my loldrk, but its probably more rare than a coruscanti and i spam the hell outta qilin and still dont have that...
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By Odin.Sawtelle 2013-01-22 15:24:28
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I enjoy meebles, and being able to enter on lvl 1 mules on your account and send yourself gear makes it spam-able if you have friends and/or mules.

Edit: SE needed to make the gear match better though. Chasubles are ugly and akasha chaps don't match with anything.
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By Bahamut.Blze 2013-01-22 15:36:52
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the risk/reward/time is still on the negative side. but i still meebles i enjoy doing it. if only other people on my server did.
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