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Armageddon RNG viable DD?
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By Siren.Ezeichiel 2012-12-17 14:42:18
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I mainly play on corsair, but have noticed that lately my ls is heavier on support jobs rather than DDs in most cases. I was wondering if using Armageddon on RNG pumps out enough dmg to consider for a DD spot or if RNG pretty much requires anni to keep up with other DD's.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-12-17 14:43:50
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It will have its use, but it's a little niche I believe. There's only a few opportunities where it will be actively competitive.
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-12-17 14:48:43
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In VW, sure. More important stuff, nah.
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By Fenrir.Curty 2012-12-17 14:49:01
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There are certain events where 99 arma can keep up with or even surpass 99 anni, but they are few and far between.

Either need a mob with heavy PDT and low MDT (kalasutrax/rex/bismarck/rukh etc..) or you can be kraken rnging spamming last stand.

If you have the gil you should just make an anni though. A hate free strong WS is just a massive thing to have.
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By Siren.Ezeichiel 2012-12-17 19:46:46
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Thanks for the responses, don't have the time or Gil to make a relic so I'll probably just level Sam and make a masa, already have a lot of gear for it.
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By Mookies 2012-12-17 20:18:04
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inc Shoha nerf
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By Phoenix.Icemn 2012-12-17 20:19:55
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Mookies said: »
inc Shoha nerf
Not before Reso lol
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By Ragnarok.Transitioneer 2012-12-18 22:21:31
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How does this look for Armageddon RNG while I work on Annhilator?

TP:


Wildfire:


Last Stand:


Barrage = Same as TP set, just with 2nd STR earring and AF+1 hands/add-on pants if applicable? Not sure what I'm missing besides like lolHQ earring... but would rather get Annihilator before I worry about that lol.

Oh... Korin Obi for applicable day/if getting firestorm for WF.

Been asking in RQT to no avail, and didn't want to start my own topic.
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By Phoenix.Icemn 2012-12-18 22:25:55
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Why not Clearview over Volley for TP? +4 RAtt for same accuracy, easy to get 100% drop off Brulo and he's usually being spammed..at least on Phoenix he is.
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By Ragnarok.Transitioneer 2012-12-18 22:28:28
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That was one thing I wasn't sure of. I was using Volley for sTP but will mostly be using this in VW, or other events where I'll be getting regain, thus nullifying need for sTP...
Clearview will be better choice than x2 STR earring?
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By Phoenix.Icemn 2012-12-18 22:33:30
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Idk tbh my RNG's only level 67, I was just asking a question for the sake of me actually knowing lol. I've actually been thinking about leveling RNG too so didn't hurt to know more about the job.
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By Ragnarok.Transitioneer 2012-12-18 22:55:07
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missing sigyn's bazubands in the tp/last stand sets (since sTP should be irrelevant if gettig regain... but please correct me if im wrong as i have yet to use my rng in any events)

also for some reason i was thinking af3+2 feet were only +12AGI... could be better for last stand at +15, but im not sure if the str from the thaumas set bonus will beat out the agi from kote/af3+2... but i will likely get sigyn's before I manage to get a lucky augment on the kote anyway, making it irrelevant
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By Quetzalcoatl.Generic 2012-12-18 23:02:06
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Why would you have a different TP set when you're using a weapon with the same delay? You should use the same set you would use for Anni unless you're worried about the R.acc you're missing from not using Anni which in that case your current TP set isn't helping at all
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By Ragnarok.Transitioneer 2012-12-18 23:14:18
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Quetzalcoatl.Generic said: »
Why would you have a different TP set when you're using a weapon with the same delay? You should use the same set you would use for Anni unless you're worried about the R.acc you're missing from not using Anni which in that case your current TP set isn't helping at all

I dunno. that was the point of asking. I'm confused with the annhilator sets I've seen posted as well because they seem to utilize relic hat+augment, and I'm not sure if it would be worth using if I will have regain (same with the STP gear, hence the volley earring, as I'm just not entirely sure if any stp will be needed)

also, keep having to edit posts. typing on phone. D:
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-12-18 23:17:05
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that 2 store tp is making 0 difference in your hit build with or without regain. 1.6 extra TP every 4 shots only, you're coming up short on WS return for a 5hit (when not /SAM).
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By Ragnarok.Transitioneer 2012-12-18 23:36:28
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o nice lol... so clearview or 2nd str earring would be better, depending on mob/buffs I'm assuming.

will probably be subbing /war, unless /blm or /sch would be worth it on rng if only using wf.

also thinking I will likely be on cor (until I get annihilator) for events other than vw, so we can just say these sets are based soley around that. with that considered, between atmacites and wings, I dunno how much stp will matter
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By Carbuncle.Pwnzone 2012-12-18 23:53:40
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Feet for TP should be af2+2, Head for TP should be af2+2 aug'd, id probably use af3+2 over thaumas head til you get aug finished.
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By Ragnarok.Transitioneer 2012-12-19 07:20:41
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5/5 recycle merits with af2+2 hat? was already unsure of putting even 1 into flashy shot... and lolstealthshot.

also worth stacking crit rate on barrage (ie: ranc.mantle/nef.collar) or just use tp gear with barrage+ hands/legs?
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By Aeyela 2012-12-19 07:31:43
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Neither. Use Barrage Hands / Legs and as much Ranged Attack and STR as you can pile on without penalizing your accuracy. Critical Hit rates for RNG are totally borked, confirmed recently in this thread: http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/34712/agi-ranged-attack-critical-rate/
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By Knack 2012-12-19 08:05:39
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http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/280106
this should be decent for TP (minus anni for arma)
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By Ragnarok.Transitioneer 2012-12-19 08:23:16
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so barrage set (skipping first line of equip + on phone so cant make itemset) would be:

thaumas/???/str earring x2
caban+2/af+1/rajas/pyrosoul (or 2x pyrosoul?)
terebellum/elanid/dessultor/???

sorry for onslaught of questions, appreciate the good info thus far
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By Carbuncle.Pwnzone 2012-12-19 08:35:40
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af2+2 feet/rancor collar/af3+2 head
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By Knack 2012-12-19 08:41:01
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neck: nef collar (+3crit)
back: rancor back(crit+5)
feet: kacura leggings +1 (crit+2)
waist: not sure what's best if AGI makes RA crit, can't look atm sorry
then the rest looks good
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By Ragnarok.Transitioneer 2012-12-19 09:16:25
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prosillo belt over wanion (no -agi) til elanid belt? and rancor collar is better than tjukurrpa medal?

will probably do 5/5 snapshot and recycle for group2 unless flashy shot is really worth it, but 10min timer is pretty lame and likely enough to make it not matter
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By Carbuncle.Pwnzone 2012-12-19 09:50:49
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Def not rancor mantle over Tere. Ranged crits are not optimal enough to drop out such a big boost to ranged attack for.

Im not too sure about rancor vs Tjukurrpa, but you could be right there. Yeah prosilio would be better til elanid. I know how you feel though. I loved flashy shot but it really should be a 5 min.
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By Ragnarok.Transitioneer 2012-12-19 10:09:41
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yeah i would rather have 5/5 recycle, especially if augmented beret is ideal for tp. the upcoming increase to recycle rate will make it even more worthwhile.

i will grab prosilio for now. if elanid comes from meebles as expected i don't think it will be too bad to get.
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