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By Jetackuu 2012-05-11 16:51:26
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China is the biggest threat to the USA. A day will come when they want their money. And we wont have it. 1,400,000,000 VS 300,000,000. Invasion is an actual possibility for China to achieve. Russia can CHILL, they ain't doin ***.

no they can't.

they have the numbers but they don't have the Navy, that's where the US wins above the rest of the world really.

And like I said for trade: if it came down to it we could just take over the seas.

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lol @ Christian Zealots comment...

I only assume cops like it because it makes it easier for them to pick people up and hold them for small time possession... (my knowledge comes from tv and a couple criminology classes though so I'm not a reliable source lol) Either way though Jet it would still be illegal to distribute without a license and they would still be picking people up with enough on them with intent to distribute/sell. DEA still has a ***ton of other stuff to deal with too...

Don't understand how that's so funny? their level of force/presence/power when it comes to legislation is scary.

they like it because it gives them jobs, there's a large budget for the "war on drugs" and each dept gets a good chunk, and all sorts of toys, like assault weapons to fight this "war".

the part about distribution is exactly a good point of why it's still illegal, drug lords don't want it legalized, they make too much money, why would somebody go to the crackhead down the street to buy an 1/8th when they can go to the store for better uncut and don't have to worry about the fuzz?

Intent to distribute would be near non-existent, unless they were stupid and didn't change the laws. People keep their stash separate to distribute, and that's how they get busted, people with fine herb who don't sell don't usually keep it separate unless it's different kinds, also they won't need as much as the good ***gets you higher for longer and you don't need as much. Also there's a point to be said here: for never smoking, I know way too much about pot...

The other drugs would still be focused on, but using the same logic as alcohol, there's no reason for it. But some of those drugs are much worse than alcohol, then again alcohol is worse than marijuana as MJ doesn't have permanent side effects...
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By Smurfite 2012-05-11 16:52:52
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I think you have seen Red Dawn too many times.

Never seen it. Any good? :O could use a good flick to watch tonight while I get drunk and wait to pick up my Amano :P
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By Jetackuu 2012-05-11 16:53:21
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FYI. Mexico is attached to the USA. THEY CANT STOP ***. You are blind if you think the USA is some untouchable land that cannot be invaded. Canada(and allies) could try but if China had the mindset to do so (will admit highly unlikely) they could do it. I don't offhand know the size of their military, but as I recall all men are required to serve x amount of years. And if their government calls, it's not the like the USA. Their citizens will respond unlike the most of my countries pussy *** scared lil ***.

Edit: Also you act like every beach in the USA is lined with anti aircraft defenses. You act like Chinese warships cannot shoot down American aircraft attempting to bomb them. Your "logic" doesn't make much sense to me.

The US Navy could block anything trying to get anywhere on the US continent if they so well pleased.

Easy as hell today with the technology we have. Their planes would be shot down before they even had the chance to lower their landing gear.
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By Moonwalkerv 2012-05-11 16:54:24
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You act like Chinese warships cannot shoot down American aircraft attempting to bomb them. Your "logic" doesn't make much sense to me.

You act like China and India don't share a border, you act like India and America are not close allies.
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By Valefor.Mithano 2012-05-11 16:56:40
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I really can't see a true war between China and the U.S. Cold war maybe, but neither side wants an all out fight.

I think all the attention lately will get the debt somewhat under control, though that's obviously wishful thinking. I do not see a situation where the U.S. truly defaults - that is to say, sorry, we're NEVER going to pay back a debt.
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By Smurfite 2012-05-11 16:56:42
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Smurfite said: »
You act like Chinese warships cannot shoot down American aircraft attempting to bomb them. Your "logic" doesn't make much sense to me.

You act like China and India don't share a border, you act like India and America are not close allies.

Allies can quickly become enemies in times of conflict.
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By Jetackuu 2012-05-11 16:58:14
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China's numbers don't mean ***if they can't invade, and they can't.

and India loves us...
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By Valefor.Mithano 2012-05-11 16:59:05
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I think you have seen Red Dawn too many times.

Never seen it. Any good? :O could use a good flick to watch tonight while I get drunk and wait to pick up my Amano :P

GO WATCH. Drinking game:

1 drink – every time you see a red star
1 drink – every time you see a flag
1 drink – every time something blows up
1 drink – every time someone gets killed
1 drink – every time you see or hear the word “Wolverines”
1 drink – every time someone fires a rocket
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By Bismarck.Flavin 2012-05-11 16:59:11
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China's military would have an extremely hard time waging a war on American soil... They're armies are vast in numbers but their methods of transport are still severely lacking... To give you an idea they only just built their first aircraft carrier recently...

In the end... All out war really won't benefit anyone especially China and the cost of life would be staggering. The world really is interdependent these days.
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By Smurfite 2012-05-11 16:59:52
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If nothing else, China will take over the US in time. We owe them so much money that they will want us to pay up at some point. Just like a loan shark, when we can't pay they will take some property, seize assets, and break some bones in the process.
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By Bismarck.Flavin 2012-05-11 17:00:12
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Jetackuu said: »
China's numbers don't mean ***if they can't invade, and they can't.

and India loves us...
I wouldn't say India loves us... They are our allies right now but they don't like that we give aid to Pakistan among other things...
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By Bismarck.Flavin 2012-05-11 17:01:16
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If nothing else, China will take over the US in time. We owe them so much money that they will want us to pay up at some point. Just like a loan shark, when we can't pay they will take some property, seize assets, and break some bones in the process.
lol... that's not really how it works... but ok...
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By Smurfite 2012-05-11 17:01:53
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Valefor.Mithano said: »
Smurfite said: »
Moonwalkerv said: »
I think you have seen Red Dawn too many times.

Never seen it. Any good? :O could use a good flick to watch tonight while I get drunk and wait to pick up my Amano :P

GO WATCH. Drinking game:

1 drink – every time you see a red star
1 drink – every time you see a flag
1 drink – every time something blows up
1 drink – every time someone gets killed
1 drink – every time you see or hear the word “Wolverines”
1 drink – every time someone fires a rocket

Got the 1.75L of Jagermeister and a 24 pack of beers. This sounds like a great plan. Now if i can only convince this girl comin tonight to play. Highly doubtful...
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By Jetackuu 2012-05-11 17:02:47
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If nothing else, China will take over the US in time. We owe them so much money that they will want us to pay up at some point. Just like a loan shark, when we can't pay they will take some property, seize assets, and break some bones in the process.

na, China needs us more than we need them, and that won't change anytime soon.

what they have is a cheap workforce, we could obtain one real quick if they wanted to. Even minimum wage @30 hours a week is pretty cheap compared to transportation, the real trick would be to refurb the factories.

We do need more Chinese babies though, otherwise we won't be able to do math when our current stockpile runs out.
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By Smurfite 2012-05-11 17:03:50
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Smurfite said: »
If nothing else, China will take over the US in time. We owe them so much money that they will want us to pay up at some point. Just like a loan shark, when we can't pay they will take some property, seize assets, and break some bones in the process.
lol... that's not really how it works... but ok...

I know its not really how it works... but you can understand the concept... was trying to equivocate the simple minds in here. Guess I failed.
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By Jetackuu 2012-05-11 17:04:00
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Jetackuu said: »
China's numbers don't mean ***if they can't invade, and they can't.

and India loves us...
I wouldn't say India loves us... They are our allies right now but they don't like that we give aid to Pakistan among other things...

For the time being I doubt they'd turn on Obama. But time would tell if he remains at the helm.
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By Caitsith.Sai 2012-05-11 17:05:24
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You do understand at some point it becomes less about money and more about pride? I just stated that China COULD pull it off. All it takes is the top jackie chan to get mad enough at the situation, and it's on. Wars have been started over a lot less.

Also, actual money has no value.

Trading and owning debt between countries has nothing to do with actual currency. Its all about trade
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By Smurfite 2012-05-11 17:28:07
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Sigh. I realize now I need to cho(edit:forgot an o)ose my phrasing more carefully. Stop twisting my words! I realize money has no value. But money = trade. Trade = money etc. I love you all, Time to see if netflix has Red Dawn so I can play this drinking game Mithano suggested. Sounds like fun. Jerry's Final Thought: Are you ready for WW3? CAUSE IT'S READY FOR YOU!
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By Phoenix.Vael 2012-05-11 19:53:41
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Smurfite said: »
Valefor.Mithano said: »
Smurfite said: »
Moonwalkerv said: »
I think you have seen Red Dawn too many times.

Never seen it. Any good? :O could use a good flick to watch tonight while I get drunk and wait to pick up my Amano :P

GO WATCH. Drinking game:

1 drink – every time you see a red star
1 drink – every time you see a flag
1 drink – every time something blows up
1 drink – every time someone gets killed
1 drink – every time you see or hear the word “Wolverines”
1 drink – every time someone fires a rocket

Got the 1.75L of Jagermeister and a 24 pack of beers. This sounds like a great plan. Now if i can only convince this girl comin tonight to play. Highly doubtful...

Why in God's name do you need a 60 of Jager?
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By Fenrir.Eneas 2012-05-11 20:00:05
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I really can't see a true war between China and the U.S. Cold war maybe, but neither side wants an all out fight.

I think all the attention lately will get the debt somewhat under control, though that's obviously wishful thinking. I do not see a situation where the U.S. truly defaults - that is to say, sorry, we're NEVER going to pay back a debt.

Also because that would mean a new world war. The net of alliances will bring at least half of the world to war (Nkorea/Skorea/India/Pakistan>>More middle east involvement/going out of control/Iran/Europe etc) and noone wants that.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2012-05-12 01:17:55
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You guys need to lay off the Command and Conquer Generals.

Neither China nor the US are stupid enough to engage in full-scale war given what both stand to lose.
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