The Days Of Pet PDT Build SE Officially Goodbye!

How is this a nerf? It was broken and it's been fixed. How I read it you just sound butthurt.

/sigh

This fix is most likely for the -100 DT that people can do. Not -100% PDT and -83% MDT.

Ducal Guard/Winged Gloom/Razed Ruin or Mounted
+ferine legs
+Shepherd
+MKE Helm
=
-100% DT (That's MDT/PDT) Making you invincible.

How does that work you say?

When your pets health is between 25-50% health your invincible. At 50% it takes approx 1.5mins to get your pet down to 25% with the slip dmg from winged gloom. So you reward to 50% and wait. Regen from food slows the slip damage and you get to reward every 2min.

If you use mounted champion and regen on MKE head you can go 9mins before you need to reward.

If you use Razed Ruins you use more reward, but suck less.

What does this all mean?
You can solo alot of stuff, bar kill speed ,rage effects, doom, hate reset.

Even without the -100%PDT setup a BST can do this now.

As to not accepting invites because you had to solo from 1-75 pre abyssea I don't see BLMs playing this card. A BST or any other soloer that refuses to team up to speed up the kill is just as much of a douche as anyone that has "wronged" them in the past. Now if the person you're refusing to team up with has wronged you then fine, eye for an eye and all that good stuff is fine with me but if you don't know that person then you're def no better.

Uh, -DT is the exact same thing, and caps at 50% for players too, it's just both PDT/MDT in one slot.

Not taking damage at ALL is just abusing this to kill mobs.
If you can't solo it without -100% DT, then it is not a solo, it's just you abusing a lame strategy.

Enough said.

If you're really complaining about this then go learn how to play BST properly, please.

A lot of BLM didn't Solo to 75. It was only post aht that they did.

I am a 90 BST. I think this is ok honestly. The idea of doing things in a MMO solo is just basicly stupid to me. Make some friends. But this fix is going to effect other things. If they lower cap say 50%. They have to lower cap on everything to make it balanced.. So honestly I can't seem them lowering that much currently. I could see maybe a 70% PDT/MDT cap.

No biggie really, even with them lowering 'the cap on PDT/MDT', wasn't going 100% PDT as it was. Still to complete the Axes on BST and was mostly using MC/RR/DG to begin with, not like it'll hurt.

So prices on Jugs/Biscuits go up, big whoop. I can make most everything on my mule now as it is

It will 99% likely be at 50% for both, the player cap.

Your avatar looks like roman from GTA IV. Roman's cousin.

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Bout time they fixed this. Knew it was too good to be true.

It was a design flaw that needed to be fixed. But let's be honest here... Most of the people who complained are the same jackasses that monopolized zones for hours on end doing their Empyrean weapon upgrade paths. They complain about anything that isn't about them. Like, when a duo group, who claimed over them and killed in the same time, takes their NM and they are forced to wait for 10-15 minutes for a repop. Oh! /sadface /comfort :3

And for all those people saying that groups offer help to kill it faster? I've seen some pretty stupid wipes from some seriously large groups in Abyssea to ridiculously easy NMs. Did you ever stop to think that some of these BSTs might not trust your group's ability to perform? I, personally, have let a group help when I was soloing in their way and it ended up a 1+ hour struggle with hate issues and people dieing all over the place.

There's also the chance that someone in the group offering to help will "Call for Help" on the NM when they get in; our server has had instances of this before, broadcasted in Port Jeuno shouts even, despite it often meaning even more wasted time with camping competition. I don't blame anyone on Bismarck for not accepting help after listening to any of that. :/

Was more explaining what the real culprit was. Maybe -100% PDT was broken. But what pushed it over the edge was Winged Gloom abuse.

A lot of BSTs I met pre Abyssea made parties to get EXP... different players doesn't change the fact after ToAU BLMs were shunned just like BST from EXP PTs, yet they don't act the way most BSTs do toward other players.

Usually the crap players you're talking about are the ones that would walk up and then just walk away. At least that has been my experience.



Hmm must not happen from 6pm to 1am Mon-Fri or 9am to 1am Sat/Sun as those are the times I might be in game and I've never seen these shouts while in Port Jueno. Or maybe this was a 1-2 time thing because I've never seen or even heard of said shouts/cries. I don't doubt someone could/would do this I just doubt it is common in any sense.

"Maybe" broken? 100% PDT IS broken.

But I was gunna use it to hold nms forever while I bring an alt I'm gunna lvl in to proc changing jobs if necessary and kill :(.

Also if it is so bad why is the thread with the update info tagged caving to a vocal minority?

100% -pdt on the pet makes BST broken and...
Not being able to charm normal Aby mobs also makes BST broken

Maybe they will fix both? It would be nice if my CHR gear became useful again...

BST being able to charm would be overpowered.
What's wrong with Primal rend? D:

Oh and I'm mad because I litterally just lvl'd bst and got the atmas and MKE head for this. Hell camping stupid nm for mdt belt right now

Or they might just make it 87% cap like avatars are, and you can run DG/MC/RR. That's how I go all the time already. (tribox 3 BSTs, but the premise stands) It just means we have to actually use pet food and/or Muslum. (start spamming cooking levels, got 61-68 this morning)

Avatars have natural PDT/DT (ain't sure which), BST pets do not.

The avatars aren't capped. They just made it so the natural 50% pdt is factored seperately from stout servant and other pdt. So no auto capping with just DG. Can still cap with DG, WG, zenith, mke hat and trial staff. But have fun keeping an avatar out with no refresh atma and not being able to use your head/weapon slot for perp cost and/or refresh.

I understand that. But the combined -pdt on SMNs gets them to 87-90ish from what I am reading on the SMN forums, since they changed it after the DG update.

I think it would be tough to argue that a BST being unable to charm, doesn't make it broken. By definition a BST's are
"Masters of the natural world, Beastmasters are capable of communicating with various types of monsters and controlling them at will. Because of this affinity for creatures, they are able to enlist their help against foes making the Beast Master the most efficient soloing class"

If charming a mob makes BST broken, then perhaps SE should revisit the recast timers on Job Abilities for BST and the Reward amount of biscuits. A BST that can't Charm Even Prey mobs is broken to me. Thats just my 2 cents.

100x over this.

TBH, if they just made pets directly targetable for cures then a lot of the hassle of pet jobs would be gone.

This isn't going to stop bsts from soloing anything, all it does is force them to use more pet food and jug pets

Or give jug pets mob equivalent HP! :o

You're joking right? Being able to use our JA makes us broken.... WTF!!!!

With all the HL mobs brought in every area with the update, charming makes sense again!

Well, except for Abyssea, of course

It could be possible



/SCH for storm spells to activate +2 hands and pendant, not sure exactly how the hands halves perp cost (I heard somewhere it's not as straightforward as carby mitts but I could be wrong.)

Using sublimation and temps to keep MP up.