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Is bard even worth it?
Titan.Tearxx
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By Titan.Tearxx 2011-03-13 19:30:09
I just came back about a week ago, and my main used to be Bard. But looking around at abyssea parties and such, i havent seen very many and wonder if its even worth it to take it up. And even still, which jobs are worth it to have at cap now?
Leviathan.Draylo
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-03-13 19:32:05
Play what you enjoy. As far as worth it, BRD is still a BRD. They speed up fights. They are just not as useful as they once were because most fights now consist of procing the various !! instead of killing fast from 100 to 0. Any job that you enjoy would be worth it... don't have to go mainstream jobs. If you really wanna do one though I would suggest MNK WHM THF BLU BLM NIN WAR.
Bahamut.Dasva
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-03-13 19:32:45
Get empyrean and rock 3 songs!
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By Odin.Lowblow 2011-03-13 19:33:04
Brd is still fantastic in and outside of abyssea. Its not a required job to make things work by anymeans. But it does speed things up. And can help sleep,buff, proc yellow. So its not useless.
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Unicorn.Leoheart
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By Unicorn.Leoheart 2011-03-13 19:33:14
Titan.Tearxx said: I just came back about a week ago, and my main used to be Bard. But looking around at abyssea parties and such, i havent seen very many and wonder if its even worth it to take it up. And even still, which jobs are worth it to have at cap now?
Marches are still great, I dont know much about brd besides that though.
Ragnarok.Nemesio
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By Ragnarok.Nemesio 2011-03-13 19:34:13
Marches are awesome, and BRD/BLM lets your BLM sub RDM!
Leviathan.Novax
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By Leviathan.Novax 2011-03-13 19:34:48
Brd will probably be used more after the abyssea era is over.
Titan.Tearxx
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By Titan.Tearxx 2011-03-13 19:35:02
The mainstream jobs are the ones that actually are able to solo most things, with the exception of SCH and RDM because they can kite. Maybe i should do bard to have it and then one of the mainstream jobs to get things done.
Carbuncle.Sevourn
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2011-03-13 19:35:43
elegy's still nice, march can be nice
if you are really dedicated you can work a spellcast that allows you to dd while you sing and with proper atmas you can actually do some respectable damage
all that said if you were maining bard to be eternally useful/sought after, then no, change to whm
Leviathan.Draylo
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-03-13 19:36:10
If you really plan on soloing things do what most people who take 30 mins to solo one NM do, DNC or NIN/DNC.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-03-13 19:36:34
Brd is still a good job, it's just not required. So you may be sitting out of things that people want to go w/ the absolute minimum to.
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By Asura.Raignes 2011-03-13 19:38:32
Ragnarok.Nemesio said: Marches are awesome, and BRD/BLM lets your BLM sub RDM!
I must have missed something. Why would a BLM sub anything else but RDM or SCH...? Dunno about you, but seeing a BLM/BRD would make me wanna kill the idiot doing so. Hi2u never landing threnodies for procs.
Leviathan.Novax
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By Leviathan.Novax 2011-03-13 19:39:03
Asura.Raignes said: Ragnarok.Nemesio said: Marches are awesome, and BRD/BLM lets your BLM sub RDM!
I must have missed something. Why would a BLM sub anything else but RDM or SCH...? Dunno about you, but seeing a BLM/BRD would make me wanna kill the idiot doing so. Hi2u never landing threnodies for procs.
Elemental Seal?
Quetzalcoatl.Dova
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By Quetzalcoatl.Dova 2011-03-13 19:39:29
Asura.Raignes said: Ragnarok.Nemesio said: Marches are awesome, and BRD/BLM lets your BLM sub RDM!
I must have missed something. Why would a BLM sub anything else but RDM or SCH...? Dunno about you, but seeing a BLM/BRD would make me wanna kill the idiot doing so. Hi2u never landing threnodies for procs.
Ele seal?
Titan.Tearxx
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By Titan.Tearxx 2011-03-13 19:39:42
Yeah, NIN or DNC seems like the best options. So many people have NIN now, its rediculous. @ sevourn i actually was making a brd DD set before i left, maybe ill work at it again^^
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By Asura.Raignes 2011-03-13 19:39:51
Once every 10 minutes, sure. How about between then? Unless you want to only fight NMs once every 10 minutes.
Leviathan.Draylo
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-03-13 19:39:52
Asura.Raignes said: Ragnarok.Nemesio said: Marches are awesome, and BRD/BLM lets your BLM sub RDM!
I must have missed something. Why would a BLM sub anything else but RDM or SCH...? Dunno about you, but seeing a BLM/BRD would make me wanna kill the idiot doing so. Hi2u never landing threnodies for procs.
lol
Leviathan.Draylo
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-03-13 19:40:13
Asura.Raignes said: Once every 10 minutes, sure. How about between then? Unless you want to only fight NMs once every 10 minutes.
Seriously, get out...
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By Asura.Raignes 2011-03-13 19:41:25
I just got told to get out by Draylo... onoez.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-03-13 19:41:47
Asura.Raignes said: Once every 10 minutes, sure. How about between then? Unless you want to only fight NMs once every 10 minutes. 1.5625% chance of !! proc being bard twice in a row.
Those are good enough odds for me to be willing to hold the mob for ele seal to be up again.
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Bahamut.Dasva
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-03-13 19:41:55
Asura.Raignes said: Once every 10 minutes, sure. How about between then? Unless you want to only fight NMs once every 10 minutes. Assuming it is always a threnody and that it takes you less than 10 min to proc and kill and wait for ??? respawn... then sure
Quetzalcoatl.Dova
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By Quetzalcoatl.Dova 2011-03-13 19:42:37
Asura.Raignes said: Once every 10 minutes, sure. How about between then? Unless you want to only fight NMs once every 10 minutes.
You dont just say oh hey its thunder let me ele seal brd song first before we try every single thing else. and if u get screwed n get brd b2b thats what temp item revites are for. Unless youre one of those ppl who are jewish about using temp items u get back randomly anyways
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By Cerberus.Vaness 2011-03-13 19:43:18
Well lol, I dunno every1 always make me come brd.I make the fights easier with ballad/march/carols sometimes mambo if we holding.Over the 10 jobs I got, I'm always brd inside abyssea or outside and not just for "trigger".So I dunno, seeing every1 comments and I'm like xD maybe my friends are crazy, I dunno.
EDIT: Oh I forgot to say that I'm also a "kind of" co-mage.Helping the whm out with haste,paralynas and trow a 560 ish cure 4 once in a while.Not very usefull when you just have 1 person on a mob, but it can be very usefull in some certain situation.(like the whm got a brain fart! xD)
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By Asura.Raignes 2011-03-13 19:44:01
Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Asura.Raignes said: Once every 10 minutes, sure. How about between then? Unless you want to only fight NMs once every 10 minutes. 1.5625% chance of !! proc being bard twice in a row.
Those are good enough odds for me to be willing to hold the mob for ele seal to be up again.
Then the group I'm going with must be a huge statistical anomaly. 3-4 times in a row is pretty commonplace for us. Seems FFXI or SE just doesn't want us to proc.
Carbuncle.Sevourn
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2011-03-13 19:44:27
Asura.Raignes said: I just got told to get out by Draylo... onoez.
draylo might not be popular but in this case he's right
Carbuncle.Sevourn
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2011-03-13 19:45:12
Cerberus.Vaness said: Well lol, I dunno every1 always make me come brd.I make the fights easier with ballad/march/carols sometimes mambo if we holding.Over the 10 jobs I got, I'm always brd inside abyssea or outside and not just for "trigger".So I dunno, seeing every1 comments and I'm like xD maybe my friends are crazy, I dunno.
no one ever wants me on bard anymore ;_;
and i LIKE coming bard
Leviathan.Novax
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By Leviathan.Novax 2011-03-13 19:45:21
Asura.Raignes said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Asura.Raignes said: Once every 10 minutes, sure. How about between then? Unless you want to only fight NMs once every 10 minutes. 1.5625% chance of !! proc being bard twice in a row.
Those are good enough odds for me to be willing to hold the mob for ele seal to be up again.
Then the group I'm going with must be a huge statistical anomaly. 3-4 times in a row is pretty commonplace for us. Seems FFXI or SE just doesn't want us to proc.
POIDH
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-03-13 19:47:12
Asura.Raignes said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Asura.Raignes said: Once every 10 minutes, sure. How about between then? Unless you want to only fight NMs once every 10 minutes. 1.5625% chance of !! proc being bard twice in a row.
Those are good enough odds for me to be willing to hold the mob for ele seal to be up again.
Then the group I'm going with must be a huge statistical anomaly. 3-4 times in a row is pretty commonplace for us. Seems FFXI or SE just doesn't want us to proc.
If you're even telling the truth, that is the case
The proc is random, equal chance at all 8. 12.5% chance each round to be bard. Which is 12-13 out of 100 !! procs, but the chance to get them consecutively, yea not that high of a chance.
Can you get 3-4 in a row, sure. It being "commonplace" = anomaly
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Leviathan.Draylo
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-03-13 19:47:53
Asura.Raignes said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Asura.Raignes said: Once every 10 minutes, sure. How about between then? Unless you want to only fight NMs once every 10 minutes. 1.5625% chance of !! proc being bard twice in a row.
Those are good enough odds for me to be willing to hold the mob for ele seal to be up again.
Then the group I'm going with must be a huge statistical anomaly. 3-4 times in a row is pretty commonplace for us. Seems FFXI or SE just doesn't want us to proc.
Says the guy still using pcc on mnk. Seems you are just a retard :/
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By Asura.Raignes 2011-03-13 19:48:12
Then it didn't happen because I don't exactly take pix of unlucky happenings like that.
Dunno, I'd rather just have a BRD come and potentially split the drops. They can do ***other than proc. Marches, Mambo if the THF/DNC/NIN is pink and can't evade or whatever.
I just came back about a week ago, and my main used to be Bard. But looking around at abyssea parties and such, i havent seen very many and wonder if its even worth it to take it up. And even still, which jobs are worth it to have at cap now?
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