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Corsair - WS/RA/QD sets
Cerberus.Finalvegeta
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Cerberus.Finalvegeta said: Caitsith.Kilorilo said: Rune bangles are a option for draining your MP to proc Ugg. Also unless i'm mistaken your /ra TP set is 6-hit, and could probably be pushed to 5hit w/out much work, also 4hit is possible /sam. Hit build isn't going to help me much inside abyssea. I usually use Sea daughter atma. But how much STP would I need for 5 hit? With what bullets? Afaik bullet delay matters for tp gain For /ra set: If you're not subbing SAM, you need 21 STP with Armageddon~ With your current set, you have 3 options: 1. Change your AF3+2 body to Loki 2. Replace your grip/feet with Rose strap + Gules leggings+1 3. Replace your grip/Bellona's ring with Rose strap + Hoard ring Don't forget that's how much TP you need for your WS set as well. Bullets are all the same. /SAM 4 hit if I remember right you need 39 STP~ You'd need all the above mentioned STP gear plus a tactical mantle. Impulse belt and Navarch's mantle are snapshot macros, it's better to macro in Terebellum Mantle(or Libeccio Mantle if you need racc, or Tactical if you need STP) and AF2 belt after /ra. I think Skadi pants can be good to macro in after you /ra with AF3 pants too, since you don't really need 8 STP(just 7 is enough) on AF3+2 pants and Skadi pants has higher rattk. So AF3+2 pants is just a snapshot macro IMO. For hands, get a AF2 hands for snapshot and w hands which has higher rattk. Also consider augment WoTG reward earring with rattk+4 and regain, pretty good for /ra TP IMO. Of course you can argue that hit build is not important with sea daughter atma, but having it is pretty useful still, you can use other atma instead depending on your situation, and it may be good outside of Abyssea. Also I like faith torque more than Q.collar, just because COR's combat skill is so low ._. For QD set: Elemental Obi if you have inventory, if not then don't bother. I just tested it for a bit, Schutzen Mittens+ AF3+2 pants gives you 20 TP per QD hit if you're using armageddon, it's actually a pretty good choice to QD in AF3+2 legs so you can get one hit less to 100 TP, plus 1%(lol?) of chance to make QD dmg x3. And you only lose 4 or 3 MAB anyways. I think Rajas+ Rose strap will give the same amount of TP, and you don't lose MAB unless you have 2 MAB rings, so the choice is up to you. Also get an ACP body for QD .________. You asked besides AF3+2 items what else you need, do you have AF2 gears? Get AF2 head/body/hands at least, they're not really replaceable. Cerberus.Finalvegeta
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Ragnarok.Afania said: Cerberus.Finalvegeta said: Caitsith.Kilorilo said: Rune bangles are a option for draining your MP to proc Ugg. Also unless i'm mistaken your /ra TP set is 6-hit, and could probably be pushed to 5hit w/out much work, also 4hit is possible /sam. Hit build isn't going to help me much inside abyssea. I usually use Sea daughter atma. But how much STP would I need for 5 hit? With what bullets? Afaik bullet delay matters for tp gain For /ra set: If you're not subbing SAM, you need 21 STP with Armageddon~ With your current set, you have 3 options: 1. Change your AF3+2 body to Loki 2. Replace your grip/feet with Rose strap + Gules leggings+1 3. Replace your grip/Bellona's ring with Rose strap + Hoard ring Don't forget that's how much TP you need for your WS set as well. Bullets are all the same. /SAM 4 hit if I remember right you need 39 STP~ You'd need all the above mentioned STP gear plus a tactical mantle. Impulse belt and Navarch's mantle are snapshot macros, it's better to macro in Terebellum Mantle(or Libeccio Mantle if you need racc, or Tactical if you need STP) and AF2 belt after /ra. I think Skadi pants can be good to macro in after you /ra with AF3 pants too, since you don't really need 8 STP(just 7 is enough) on AF3+2 pants and Skadi pants has higher rattk. So AF3+2 pants is just a snapshot macro IMO. For hands, get a AF2 hands for snapshot and w hands which has higher rattk. Also consider augment WoTG reward earring with rattk+4 and regain, pretty good for /ra TP IMO. Of course you can argue that hit build is not important with sea daughter atma, but having it is pretty useful still, you can use other atma instead depending on your situation, and it may be good outside of Abyssea. Also I like faith torque more than Q.collar, just because COR's combat skill is so low ._. For QD set: Elemental Obi if you have inventory, if not then don't bother. I just tested it for a bit, Schutzen Mittens+ AF3+2 pants gives you 20 TP per QD hit if you're using armageddon, it's actually a pretty good choice to QD in AF3+2 legs so you can get one hit less to 100 TP, plus 1%(lol?) of chance to make QD dmg x3. And you only lose 4 or 3 MAB anyways. I think Rajas+ Rose strap will give the same amount of TP, and you don't lose MAB unless you have 2 MAB rings, so the choice is up to you. Also get an ACP body for QD .________. You asked besides AF3+2 items what else you need, do you have AF2 gears? Get AF2 head/body/hands at least, they're not really replaceable. Thank you for the input. Got the head and body yeah but only wanted advice for these 3 sets for now. Got obis cuz main BLM. Forgot that you just have to use the snapshot pieces at the beginning of your attack so thanks for reminding me. Wouldn't the af3+1/2 hands beat whands? I got the abjuration but thought that the 3/5% crit rate would be better. I'll never do wotg or acp :/ I aaaaaaaaaaabsolutely hate doing missions to death. That is the worst thing ingame for me, after leveling <.< The 7 Marksmanship skill is better than 8 ratk? Um I'd put them similarly. But ranged crits aren't as good as melee crits so yeah. And Wotg is very long and annoying but acp is pretty short and easy.
And no 7 skill is not better than 8ratt unless you really really need the racc Shiva.Gylfie said: His job list screams not a chance for Cara Got masa, kannagi for myself, armageddon and most af3+2's to him with this setup, so nope, he didn't lootwhore em from anyone xD Abyssea is too easy =x Cerberus.Trixen said: Shiva.Gylfie said: His job list screams not a chance for Cara Got masa, kannagi for myself, armageddon and most af3+2's to him with this setup, so nope, he didn't lootwhore em from anyone xD Abyssea is too easy =x Yeah I did nin thf whm for kannagi/armageddon. Was too easy. Never even bothered with shadows on cara unless it was casting tornado on me
Bahamut.Dasva said: Um I'd put them similarly. But ranged crits aren't as good as melee crits so yeah. And Wotg is very long and annoying but acp is pretty short and easy. And no 7 skill is not better than 8ratt unless you really really need the racc From my personal experience, compare with melee attack, ranged attack seems to gets more benefit more from rattk but less from crit-hit. I don't have any test result to prove it though. Also if you want full advantage of crit-hit you may need to use RR atma, and that takes another atma slot away~~ 7 skill=7 acc 7 attk, so the choice is yours. But COR has like B rank in Marksmanship, so I like skill a bit more~~ Cerberus.Finalvegeta
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Ragnarok.Afania said: Bahamut.Dasva said: Um I'd put them similarly. But ranged crits aren't as good as melee crits so yeah. And Wotg is very long and annoying but acp is pretty short and easy. And no 7 skill is not better than 8ratt unless you really really need the racc From my personal experience, compare with melee attack, ranged attack seems to gets more benefit more from rattk but less from crit-hit. I don't have any test result to prove it though. Also if you want full advantage of crit-hit you may need to use RR atma, and that takes another atma slot away~~ 7 skill=7 acc 7 attk, so the choice is yours. But COR has like B rank in Marksmanship, so I like skill a bit more~~ What does it matter which rank it is? Skill only converts into atk/acc no? You can get that through gear. Could literally have 0 skill but 10k atk 10k acc and still be better than someone with capped skill. (ya exegerating numbers) Shiva.Gylfie said: Okay, so I'm just gonna go level blu, brb getting Almace and making threads on how to play blu Oh wow butthurt much? I kinda just leveled up BLU, allready working on Almace. Hate me too :p Ragnarok.Afania said: From my personal experience, compare with melee attack, ranged attack seems to gets more benefit more from rattk but less from crit-hit. I don't have any test result to prove it though. Also if you want full advantage of crit-hit you may need to use RR atma, and that takes another atma slot away~~ 7 skill=7 acc 7 attk, so the choice is yours. But COR has like B rank in Marksmanship, so I like skill a bit more~~ 1. Ratio/cratio caps higher for ranged attacks. 2. lvl correct effects ranged less. 3. If you are a rng you got velocity shot. Also they changed how crits work. So while melees get a +1.0 to pdif ranged attacks only get X1.25. So basically ranged crits get 25% boost in dmg. While melee gets anywhere from 25% to infinity boost in dmg. Also B rank is more than enough to hit things fine. With cruor buffs and atmas that affect racc/acc (hello GH and RR) most C rankers can hit just fine without gearring for acc/racc or eatting food with that. If not eat a pot au feu. But my rng tps in full snapshot/store tp dmg no really racc but I have like 200 agi lol. My melees kinda similar but with dex instead. Though I must admit landing slugs with capped racc is hard without racc atmas or pots :( Do i dare ask what Atma's you use? I'm scared to hear your response since you said "MM is always on".
It's quite obvious you're new to the Corsair job. And based on your gear, atma choice and questions you'll get some slack. Lol. Atma's I use Smoldering Sky Ultimate Lone Wolf Cerberus.Finalvegeta
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Odin.Valdor said: Do i dare ask what Atma's you use? I'm scared to hear your response since you said "MM is always on". It's quite obvious you're new to the Corsair job. And based on your gear, atma choice and questions you'll get some slack. Lol. Atma's I use Smoldering Sky Ultimate Lone Wolf Cerberus.Finalvegeta said: What does it matter which rank it is? Skill only converts into atk/acc no? You can get that through gear. Could literally have 0 skill but 10k atk 10k acc and still be better than someone with capped skill. (ya exegerating numbers) Generally it depends on other part of gear and type of the mob you fight. I like 7 skill on neck slot because I can go all out on rattk on other slot. 8+4=12, but 7+7=14, so 7 skill seems to have more value to me. But it still largely depend on what gears you use on other slot. I emphasis "I like" over and over, so that's just personal preference, not necessary "better". Basically whatever you choose just cap racc but don't go over it and you'd be fine. Bahamut.Dasva said: Also B rank is more than enough to hit things fine. With cruor buffs and atmas that affect racc/acc (hello GH and RR) most C rankers can hit just fine without gearring for acc/racc or eatting food with that. If not eat a pot au feu. But my rng tps in full snapshot/store tp dmg no really racc but I have like 200 agi lol. My melees kinda similar but with dex instead. Though I must admit landing slugs with capped racc is hard without racc atmas or pots :( Not really...my BLU has A+ sword skill(8/8 sword merit) and on some higher eva NM I still can't cap acc even though I macro in high acc gears like Sharpeye mantle,ziel charm and acc path magian sword plus RR atma. RNG has 19 more skill than COR, plus acc bouns V job trait, and A rank in AGI attribute, that's at least 70 more racc than COR, can't really use RNG as an example to show that you don't need racc XD Most of the C rankers like mages takes one million years to get TP for proc when we're fighting NMs, and often need help from SAM or COR to get their TP, so I don't really believe they can cap acc just fine XD Yeah I wouldn't use the highest evasive thing you can fight as your baseline for your general tp set...
Also I call bs with not capping acc with all that. I don't maccro in 1 bit of acc gear on blu over my normal tp set and the only thing it takes for me to get capped acc on every nm I've fought is sushi. Usually doesn't even take that. I've been tanking on thf. No acc bonus only half merits A- skill and I think there was only one time I haven't been capped acc with just normal full haste tp gear RR and cruor buffs. And that one time the mob was accurate enough for me to want to put on an evasion atma so I got one that was evasion and acc lol Also I had been using a drg with barely over 200 skill (which is basically F rank if I was capping there lol) well eventually I started a bit lower and RR to get tp to proc red on pretty much everything in scars/vision areas without acc food. I actually learned full swing on Ovni :) Most mages take forever because they don't get RR and don't have real tp sets and usually have way way way undercapped skills Cerberus.Finalvegeta
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Cerberus.Finalvegeta said: Does distance matter for Wildfire? Cerberus.Kvazz said: Shiva.Gylfie said: Okay, so I'm just gonna go level blu, brb getting Almace and making threads on how to play blu Oh wow butthurt much? I kinda just leveled up BLU, allready working on Almace. Hate me too :p And okay, I'll hate you too. I hate anyone who doesn't actually work on gearing/skilling up the job before they decide they should get a weapon like that. No, its not relic or mythic, but thats not the point. Shiva.Gylfie said: How does that mean I'm butthurt? I have a Masamune, not saying its hard to get, but I'm just saying that I have an emp so theres no reason why I would be butthurt. And okay, I'll hate you too. I hate anyone who doesn't actually work on gearing/skilling up the job before they decide they should get a weapon like that. No, its not relic or mythic, but thats not the point. I guess when you can lv a job to 90 in 3 days, and finish an empy(the best weapon for many jobs) in less than 1 week, this outcome is pretty inevitable. And we're just not used to it, since it used to take 1 year+ to lv one job to 75 and obtain the best weapon.
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Shiva.Gylfie said: Cerberus.Kvazz said: Shiva.Gylfie said: Okay, so I'm just gonna go level blu, brb getting Almace and making threads on how to play blu Oh wow butthurt much? I kinda just leveled up BLU, allready working on Almace. Hate me too :p And okay, I'll hate you too. I hate anyone who doesn't actually work on gearing/skilling up the job before they decide they should get a weapon like that. No, its not relic or mythic, but thats not the point. this is my current QD set, wana get an Acinaces so i dont need to carry all these staffs. Gun is MAB+10 body has MAB+4 QD-5 delay. Ifrit.Creaucent said: this is my current QD set, wana get an Acinaces so i dont need to carry all these staffs. Gun is MAB+10 body has MAB+4 QD-5 delay. I'm a lil skeptical on the AF3 weapon, the staffs offer much more DMG but the dagger will save your TP while you're QD-ing, depends on what you're doing, if you're just rolling and healing, staffs will definitely make more sense, if you're providing ranged DD support as well, the dagger makes a bit more sense. Also, Denali Legs are pretty sweet, and I'd throw in Rajas, it'll help you out better than the TOAU ring.
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This is currently what im using for my sets.
Melee TP set - Working on Epona's, Tiercel, Dusk+1 or Ocelot and Zelus Tiara QD Set - Rings have MaB +2 QD TP Set - Still messing with a few pieces, but current Store TP is 56 Ratt/racc TP set - Working on Clearview, Gules+1 feet Wildfire Set - Working on Pandinus Beret or maybe Oce. Headpiece I understand that with all the new gear my sets could use some improvement. Any suggestions would be great incase im over looking something. For your WF set, I wear the Navarch's Culottes +2, they have Store TP+8 on them. For your /RA TP may i suggest Libeccio Mantle. WF Neck you could wear Houyi's Gorget, but i dont know if that is better then Artemis' Medal. Someone will need to do some math.
Odin.Valdor said: » For your WF set, I wear the Navarch's Culottes +2, they have Store TP+8 on them. For your /RA TP may i suggest Libeccio Mantle. WF Neck you could wear Houyi's Gorget, but i dont know if that is better then Artemis' Medal. Someone will need to do some math. Artemis Medal/U.pendant has higher MAB, and MAB itself is more potent than AGI anyways. In terms of dmg both of them should win, unless that STP makes big difference. For your sake of inv, I'd say just use A.medal/U.pendant which also works for QD. Also have you done WoTG? That WoTG earring with regain augment is awesome. Can also put racc or rattk+4 on it, makes it better than other earring selection overall. For QD off with the empy pants and put on a mab piece if you have it(Desultor Tassets, Nimue's tights..)
For the ranged set I use a qiqirn collar for neck; also navarch cape is only for snapshot set, I land my shots in terebellum(but Libeccio works too). Sylph.Agentblade
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Ragnarok.Afania said: » Also have you done WoTG? That WoTG earring with regain augment is awesome. Can also put racc or rattk+4 on it, makes it better than other earring selection overall. |
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