Gear For Victory Smite (PUP) |
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Gear for Victory Smite (PUP)
Sorry about the post above, anyways, the set above is what i currently use, except for probably subbing maats for athos to activate the set bonus (dont have Athos head piece yet), im pretty pleased with this. On T6s and such, if i am ever on PUP for some reason, i would probably sub neck/belt for breeze to compensate the acc needed. Thaumas legs?
Podginator said: » With that set bonus in mind how would Athos head / gloves combo compare to Anwig Salade? lol i dont have any Thaumas pieces...as i dont do neo-Nyzul yet, but yea, thats an obvious, if out-of-my-reach improvement.
If I cannot get usukane legs for ws, what could I use instead?
Ramuh.Austar said: » Off AH? Alcide's +1. Siren.Fupafighters said: » My server doesn't rly do salvage Your server is just you and two other people? Cerberus.Balloon
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Siren.Fupafighters said: » Ramuh.Austar said: » Off AH? Alcide's +1. http://www.ffxiah.com/item/10566/tenryu-hakama - These are quite a good alternative to Usu, but you'll have to get the abjuration (I believe it's from Morta) Ragnarok.Grimkitty
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It's a crit WS so stacking crit rate is always nice you'd do the same for WSs like Blade: Hi it's not like he's capping crit rate outside abyssea.
Tenryu Sune-Ate +1 with augments could def. be a viable piece depending on what you get for augments on them. No, I get that Narb, but I mean like he's got +12 in gear + the tp bonus factor of the moonshade. Also is epona's good for smite or is it just pummel it's bad for? I know it's less hits than pummel but it's still a 5 hit WS. Not a ton of room for DA/TA procs as it is.
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Id use piplaka over beir +1. Victory smite is garbage if it doesnt Critical hit. I use thaumas body and Anguis +1 with atheeling and rancor collar. Thats an extra 4 dbl atk and 3 quad / 3 triple atk with -20 str. 1 extra attack = another 20% crit rate opportunity. But maybe ive just been getting lucky. With impetus up ill do 4k from time to time, and with it down with no berserk ill do a 6k VS with thaumas body because quad or triple atk procs and i get an 8 hit ws.
Edit- I dont have those VW mitts, so i use the Nomkahpa mittens also. Cerberus.Balloon
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Tenryu Sune-ate +1 are viable, but with 3 Thaumas pieces you're looking at a +5 STR DEX and AGI boost, on top of 3% DA with the feet. A good augmented wivre gorget may win out in low acc situations, but that's the best set for PUP really. Cerberus.Balloon said: » It's a 4 hit weapon skill Are you forgetting the off-hand punch? I was under the impression all h2h and dual wield WSs add 1 hit for off-hand AngeljCarbajal said: » Id use piplaka over beir +1. Victory smite is garbage if it doesnt Critical hit. I use thaumas body and Anguis +1 with atheeling and rancor collar. Thats an extra 4 dbl atk and 3 quad / 3 triple atk with -20 str. 1 extra attack = another 20% crit rate opportunity. But maybe ive just been getting lucky. With impetus up ill do 4k from time to time, and with it down with no berserk ill do a 6k VS with thaumas body because quad or triple atk procs and i get an 8 hit ws. Edit- I dont have those VW mitts, so i use the Nomkahpa mittens also. This is a pup thread btw, so your impetus statement is pretty null. Just sayin'. >_< And why on earth would you WS in thaumas body? Really? Is that really best? Also Tessera Saio I think beats Toci's for pup specificially. More att on Tess (and idc about the DA+ from that body given my previous statement) Offline
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Odin.Eikechi said: » AngeljCarbajal said: » Id use piplaka over beir +1. Victory smite is garbage if it doesnt Critical hit. I use thaumas body and Anguis +1 with atheeling and rancor collar. Thats an extra 4 dbl atk and 3 quad / 3 triple atk with -20 str. 1 extra attack = another 20% crit rate opportunity. But maybe ive just been getting lucky. With impetus up ill do 4k from time to time, and with it down with no berserk ill do a 6k VS with thaumas body because quad or triple atk procs and i get an 8 hit ws. Edit- I dont have those VW mitts, so i use the Nomkahpa mittens also. This is a pup thread btw, so your impetus statement is pretty null. Just sayin'. >_< And why on earth would you WS in thaumas body? Really? Is that really best? Also Tessera Saio I think beats Toci's for pup specificially. More att on Tess (and idc about the DA+ from that body given my previous statement) AngeljCarbajal said: » the best for me. That's the part I have a lil trouble with. 1) you're doing it on mnk anyways. 2) for "you" is very subjective. I mean think about the thaumas body for a second. If you proc a quad on the first hit, adding 3 hits the rest of the stats are literally useless for the remaining 7 hits. Cerberus.Balloon
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I don't see why you'd use Thaumas Body for smite either, you're just gimping your average damage for a chance at a larger number.
Dumping it into the DPS calculator (With otherwise default settings + No food) shows that, too (1699 vs 1639, same sets.) Replacing an Epona's with Pyrosoul on the spreadsheet returns 1699 vs 1683. Replacing Tocis with Tes saio is 1699 vs 1699 (though Tocis comes out slightly ahead with Red curry buns). Random side note, but I had no idea how much using maneuvers cut into our damage. It's shocking. Edit: Altered the figures to be without food instead of RCB Offline
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I can see your frustration if you don't have a thaumas coat. Only to get one and be disapointed. But if you have one, just try it out and see for your self. People seem argumentative on these forums, just try it out.
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AngeljCarbajal said: » I can see your frustration if you don't have a thaumas coat. Only to get one and be disapointed. But if you have one, just try it out and see for your self. People seem argumentative on these forums, just try it out. I have Thaumas coat. Offline
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Then try it out. See what u think, go to aby for an hour and mess around with it. Guard the morello in misraux that's a fun pass time.
Odin.Eikechi said: » Cerberus.Balloon said: » It's a 4 hit weapon skill Are you forgetting the off-hand punch? I was under the impression all h2h and dual wield WSs add 1 hit for off-hand AngeljCarbajal said: » Odin.Eikechi said: » AngeljCarbajal said: » Id use piplaka over beir +1. Victory smite is garbage if it doesnt Critical hit. I use thaumas body and Anguis +1 with atheeling and rancor collar. Thats an extra 4 dbl atk and 3 quad / 3 triple atk with -20 str. 1 extra attack = another 20% crit rate opportunity. But maybe ive just been getting lucky. With impetus up ill do 4k from time to time, and with it down with no berserk ill do a 6k VS with thaumas body because quad or triple atk procs and i get an 8 hit ws. Edit- I dont have those VW mitts, so i use the Nomkahpa mittens also. This is a pup thread btw, so your impetus statement is pretty null. Just sayin'. >_< And why on earth would you WS in thaumas body? Really? Is that really best? Also Tessera Saio I think beats Toci's for pup specificially. More att on Tess (and idc about the DA+ from that body given my previous statement) Offline
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Ramuh.Austar said: » Odin.Eikechi said: » Cerberus.Balloon said: » It's a 4 hit weapon skill Are you forgetting the off-hand punch? I was under the impression all h2h and dual wield WSs add 1 hit for off-hand AngeljCarbajal said: » Odin.Eikechi said: » AngeljCarbajal said: » Id use piplaka over beir +1. Victory smite is garbage if it doesnt Critical hit. I use thaumas body and Anguis +1 with atheeling and rancor collar. Thats an extra 4 dbl atk and 3 quad / 3 triple atk with -20 str. 1 extra attack = another 20% crit rate opportunity. But maybe ive just been getting lucky. With impetus up ill do 4k from time to time, and with it down with no berserk ill do a 6k VS with thaumas body because quad or triple atk procs and i get an 8 hit ws. Edit- I dont have those VW mitts, so i use the Nomkahpa mittens also. This is a pup thread btw, so your impetus statement is pretty null. Just sayin'. >_< And why on earth would you WS in thaumas body? Really? Is that really best? Also Tessera Saio I think beats Toci's for pup specificially. More att on Tess (and idc about the DA+ from that body given my previous statement) Cerberus.Balloon
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AngeljCarbajal said: » Then try it out. See what u think, go to aby for an hour and mess around with it. Guard the morello in misraux that's a fun pass time. In a capped attack situation (against fodder maybe) I think it comes out slightly ahead (Although I have no idea about the veracity of that claim) In all other situations it is stupid to use. Are you sure you use that because I don't think you've been on PUP since you got Thaumas.
How do you know it's best if you don't have the experience? Fenrir.Jinjo said: » Are you sure you use that because I don't think you've been on PUP since you got Thaumas. How do you know it's best if you don't have the experience? Austar has a 99 relic, so she's automatically more knowledgeable about things anyway. |
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