Making Hexa Better

Posted my set, not sure if you can get a whole lot better than this (imo anyway)

Hexa Strike Setup

Pretty much all attack/accuracy based with STR thrown in where there's nothing better for the slot. Ignored MND completely.

Performs decently outside Abyssea, inside I've rarely been beaten on damage.

If you don't have moogle hat with DD augments then I'd recommend Rokugo Hachimaki (12 acc, 5 club skill).

Cape was a bit of luck on my part but if you cba repeating the moogle fight for a chance at a decent augmented cape then Aesir Mantle is probably your next best bet.

9 pages!!!!

/pops a bottle!

I'm curious if you've done some tests... say, removing Mar's Ring and replacing it with Flamesoul Ring (STR+7) and comparing consistent numbers?

I've been trying to learn what I can about weapon skills, since I'm just WHM SMN COR I never went the extra mile.. I would imagine 7 STR would out perform 8 attack (at the expense of accuracy though) if we're talking purely "bigger numbers".

Also, my current work in progress set:



Some obvious problems, but suggestions always appreciated. Culacula is 5/50 for Empyrean btw. Offhand is Naboot+2 (almost, not done yet)

I guess everything is situational but the only ws where I would flat out say not to wear brutal is asuran fists. Otherwise I really cant imagine when you would want something else.

pyrosoul ring has -MND

It'd probably be better to stick with a strigoi ring or Vulcan's ring if you wanted more STR

Given the low TP and WS modifiers i think even keen ring or excelsis ring would affect Hexa better than a +7 STR, -3MND ring

BUUUUMP

lol

There seemed to be a lot of confusion as to the value of STR vs MND, since STR has stand-alone benefits, and both are 20% mods.

((( Disclaimer: I made this spreadsheet superfast, so please chime in if I'm mistaken! )))

Similar to DEX being beneficial only in a certain (and hard-to-predict) range, one of STR's benefits (fSTR) actually has this same "problem" -- beyond the min/max values of fSTR, it won't do anything. It used to be a pretty safe assumption that WHM will be within this range (uncapped). However, with cruor buffs, martellostuff, and atmas like Stout Arm (anyone using that?), Abyssea could put your WS set over the cap.

The image below makes a few assumptions, then moves along the range of fSTR showing the benefit of STR inside and outside that range. The assumptions are:
DMG:54 weapon, ATT=500; mob has VIT=100, DEF=500



--If you are above the cap, (STR+1) is about equal to (ATT+1), and just under (MND+2) due to resulting attack.
--If you are below the cap, (STR+1) becomes equal to (ATT+5~10), and around (MND+7.5).

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The second image shows how your current attack affects the "value" of STR&MND by comparison:



If your attack is low, ATT+ becomes more valuable (ATT+10 = STR+2 = MND+16)
If your attack is even, ATT+ is very close to MND (ATT+10 = STR+1.5 = MND+10)
If your attack is high, ATT+ becomes less valuable (ATT+10 = STR+1 = MND+7)

Obviously your numbers will be slightly different, but provided you're below fSTR cap, some quick math indicates that Flora Cotehardie should beat a Royal Redingote with ATT+10... in many (likely) situations...

wow...

Hey guys, this is my first post to the forums, being a casual observer. I just completed the Double Attack Naboot+2 (70dmg, 10% double attack) for my Whinja. Here is my current Hexa build:



I was lucky enough to procure a Tabin Jupon +1, and I've compared my WSs out of Abyssea and it seems I do average better damage with it over Augur's Jaseran or the Reverend Mail.

The Resilient Mantle has an augment of +1 STR, +17 attack.

As my final X # monsters trial was 30 Piasa in Abyssea - La Theine, my average hexa's were 1800, using a Molva Maul with Meat Mithkabob, Atmas of Razed Ruin, Siren Shadow and Minikin Monstrocity. Having had to solo 12 of them, I needed the slight evasion advantage with Siren Shadow. After trial completion, I killed Piasa again with _no_ food, but same atmas, and my average Hexa's were 2200.

Not sure about everything, but this is probably near the ideal set.

Just wait until Randgrith does epic damage.... =3

Serj, what have I told you about being in WHM threads...? >:|

I WANNA BE THE VERY BEST DD WHM EVAR! Seriously, I'll lvl whm when I buy the currency for a Mjollnir.

You and your fishing, lol

What have I told you about being in threads other than Dhalmel and lolSAM threads? :|

Dat club.

Yay!!! Praise the revival of the 9 page WHM Hexa topic :D

Onto page 10 gooooo

D:

Working your way to "the best" is one step at a time. I've not worked on any other magian clubs as of yet, trying to toy with the idea of the DEX/accuracy or STR/attack one for offhand, but Kclub or multihit Naboot is a more appealing option.

My ACP body is dedicated to my DNC for right now, but with Loki's Kaftan and AF3 body now, I'm starting to reconsider its use.

Josiahfk: I tried soloing Piasa with normal haste set + gnarled horn, with its double attack rate and my nominal evasion on WHM, it'd beat me down faster than I could get shadows up, I had to use an evasion set and Siren Shadow for survivability. If there were a normal tank, I probably could use a more typical damage setup.

Khimaira: I appreciate your set, and in the long-run I'd love my set to look like that, but until I get 200 mil's worth of old money or win the Bonanza, this is the point my set is at. If someone wanted to consider a damage club, I hope my experience in building this club gives them some insight if they consider this club. And if TP-feed is an issue, this would be an excellent off-hander for the Mjollnir of my dreams, too!

o/ Hi icepick!

Anyway, just some fun damage shots. Didn't have any DD atmas on for these since we were on the way to Raja. Mjollnir 90/Kraken Offhand. Granted, these are blunt weak and all but still fun.




Hexa Set


Randgrith Set:

A thought: Insurgency benefits from +attack over +STR b/c it's mods are at 20%, like Hexa Strike. Would a Keen Ring be better over a STR or MND ring?

Kyarutaru: Which augments do you have on your Moonshade Earring?

Am I the only one who did Selenian Cap with STR+4 DEX+4 WSAcc+15 CritDmg+2%, and Royal Redingote with Atk+10 CritRate+3%?

Oh, Kyaru, for your Hexa set, @Blessed Pants+1, would that be better or the +10 acc on hydra Brais?

Depends on if you need the accuracy to cap your accuracy.

Moonshade: Acc +4 TP Bonus +25
Selenian: STR +4 AGI +4 WS ACC +15 WS DMG +2%
Redingote: ACC & ATT +10

As far as pants go, I typically don't have any accuracy issues as far as my Hexas have been going -- otherwise I can swap in Tatsumaki Sitagoromo which I have Acc +7/Haste +3 on. I unfortunately don't have Hydra Brais but that would be my alternative to Tatsu if accuracy was an issue. I've got a modified melee set for if I need more Accuracy too which adds in stuff like Sniper's +1, Toreadors, Tiphia Sting, Tatsumaki... still typically dun need tho