Kill NM with a THF and get good drops: "OMG TH!!!!"
Kill NM with a THF and nothing drops: "OMG TH IS A MYTH!!!"
Treasure Hunter Effectiveness
Treasure Hunter Effectiveness
Siren.Kunimatsu said:
Kill NM with a THF and get good drops: "OMG TH!!!!"
Kill NM with a THF and nothing drops: "OMG TH IS A MYTH!!!"
Kill NM with a THF and nothing drops: "OMG TH IS A MYTH!!!"
TH Effectiveness probably has diminishing returns, so each additional +1 TH is less "effective" than the last.
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Now that we have a better understanding of TH, I really don't understand why I still see Thf's off-handing Thf's knife 100% of the time. ><; Lots of better options out there.
Sylph.Rebo said:
Now that we have a better understanding of TH, I really don't understand why I still see Thf's off-handing Thf's knife 100% of the time. ><; Lots of better options out there.
you are certain wearing +th gear while doing sneak attacks/trick attacks/etc will not increase the chance of an additional proc?
Valefor.Integral said:
you are certain wearing +th gear while doing sneak attacks/trick attacks/etc will not increase the chance of an additional proc?
about as certain as I am that intelligence doesn't increase my crit rate.
Phoenix.Kirana said:
Valefor.Integral said:
you are certain wearing +th gear while doing sneak attacks/trick attacks/etc will not increase the chance of an additional proc?
about as certain as I am that intelligence doesn't increase my crit rate.
what about dexterity increasing shout range
Valefor.Integral said:
Phoenix.Kirana said:
Valefor.Integral said:
you are certain wearing +th gear while doing sneak attacks/trick attacks/etc will not increase the chance of an additional proc?
about as certain as I am that intelligence doesn't increase my crit rate.
what about dexterity increasing shout range
This is true actually, when i first heard this I tested it with a few people in Whitegate shouting for assaults.
Sylph.Rebo said:
Now that we have a better understanding of TH, I really don't understand why I still see Thf's off-handing Thf's knife 100% of the time. ><; Lots of better options out there.
Situation depending, I'll keep my Thief's Knife offhanded.
For example, if I'm farming some NM and it needs a pop item, I'll keep my Knife on for the pop item mobs (and depending on how lazy/forgetful I am that day, the NM too sometimes >_>;)
Sometimes it's just too much lost TP/time wasted continually swapping knives in and out.
The people I don't get, are the ones in EXP/Cruor PT's or something who use it >_>;
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Sylph.Hitetsu said:
Sylph.Rebo said:
Now that we have a better understanding of TH, I really don't understand why I still see Thf's off-handing Thf's knife 100% of the time. ><; Lots of better options out there.
Situation depending, I'll keep my Thief's Knife offhanded.
For example, if I'm farming some NM and it needs a pop item, I'll keep my Knife on for the pop item mobs (and depending on how lazy/forgetful I am that day, the NM too sometimes >_>;)
Sometimes it's just too much lost TP/time wasted continually swapping knives in and out.
The people I don't get, are the ones in EXP/Cruor PT's or something who use it >_>;
I agree for small stuff its kool, as for long fights where a thf's damage is a factor, I would def start with your th gear, hit it once then lose the thf knife. You only need to hit it with your th gear on... 1 time the whole fight.
I was one who always believed that keeping TH on increased the chances of tiering up, so I kept Assasing/+2boots/TK on 24/7 (except for WS of course) until I reached th10 (with dread atma). So I believe you guys are saying that this is unnecesary, and I need only hit it once with those 3 items equipped and then macro them out?
Also, if it works this way, I have another question... If you have two thfs, need only one get dread atma and wear the 3 TH boosting gear and hit the mob and then both will have an equal chance of tiering it up after that?
Also, if it works this way, I have another question... If you have two thfs, need only one get dread atma and wear the 3 TH boosting gear and hit the mob and then both will have an equal chance of tiering it up after that?
Fenrir.Curty said:
I was one who always believed that keeping TH on increased the chances of tiering up, so I kept Assasing/+2boots/TK on 24/7 (except for WS of course) until I reached th10 (with dread atma). So I believe you guys are saying that this is unnecesary, and I need only hit it once with those 3 items equipped and then macro them out?
Also, if it works this way, I have another question... If you have two thfs, need only one get dread atma and wear the 3 TH boosting gear and hit the mob and then both will have an equal chance of tiering it up after that?
Also, if it works this way, I have another question... If you have two thfs, need only one get dread atma and wear the 3 TH boosting gear and hit the mob and then both will have an equal chance of tiering it up after that?
Its currently unconfirmed exactly what the chances/conditions need be met to increase the rate of "procing it up" (as far as i have heard? maybe dif now) but yes as for the first part, you need only hit it once w/ your TH gear on. This has been verified by, hitting it once, swapping out gear, and then later in the fight it going directly to th7 w/o the original th gear on.
Sylph.Rebo said:
I agree for small stuff its kool, as for long fights where a thf's damage is a factor, I would def start with your th gear, hit it once then lose the thf knife. You only need to hit it with your th gear on... 1 time the whole fight.
I totally agree, if I expect the mob to live more than ~5min I'll swap out my knife for something slightly more suitable XD
Fenrir.Curty said:
I believe you guys are saying that this is unnecesary, and I need only hit it once with those 3 items equipped and then macro them out?
Also, if it works this way, I have another question... If you have two thfs, need only one get dread atma and wear the 3 TH boosting gear and hit the mob and then both will have an equal chance of tiering it up after that?
Also, if it works this way, I have another question... If you have two thfs, need only one get dread atma and wear the 3 TH boosting gear and hit the mob and then both will have an equal chance of tiering it up after that?
As far as I know (I haven't really spent much time reading about TH since they updated it), you're right on both of those. As far as I know, the highest TH will proc as "base", then each THF gets an equal chance to raise it to its highest level.
I guess this could be easily tested, bring a thf out with base th3 and base th7, let the th7 hit it once and then let the th3 try procing. Compare results to th7 procing himself. If don't experience much difference, we have our answer.
Sylph.Hitetsu said:
Sylph.Rebo said:
Now that we have a better understanding of TH, I really don't understand why I still see Thf's off-handing Thf's knife 100% of the time. ><; Lots of better options out there.
Situation depending, I'll keep my Thief's Knife offhanded.
For example, if I'm farming some NM and it needs a pop item, I'll keep my Knife on for the pop item mobs (and depending on how lazy/forgetful I am that day, the NM too sometimes >_>;)
Sometimes it's just too much lost TP/time wasted continually swapping knives in and out.
The people I don't get, are the ones in EXP/Cruor PT's or something who use it >_>;
Same here, totally depends on how fast the mob dies.
Nice to see that this thread i made ages ago is helpful to some :)
Cerberus.Kylos said:
Nice to see that this thread i made ages ago is helpful to some :)
I had thought about posting a thread similar awhile ago, but decided to search before hand so I didn't get the classic re-thread. Glad to see I found it.
I'm sure SE just sits back and laughs at people trying to obtain gear and using items in such a way that nobody can prove as effective. Crafting compass for example and this stuff.
Has there been any new testing about how TH actually affects monster drop rates?
The most recent testing I can think of was on BG over a year ago, still at the 75 cap with no "real" TH3.
The most recent testing I can think of was on BG over a year ago, still at the 75 cap with no "real" TH3.
Just to clarify, you do NOT need to "hit" the mob at all for TH to proc, you merely need to swing at it or throw something at it. It can miss and TH will still proc. Tested this with bounty shot awhile ago and BS had no effect after a missed RA.
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Bismarck.Helel said:
Just to clarify, you do NOT need to "hit" the mob at all for TH to proc, you merely need to swing at it or throw something at it. It can miss and TH will still proc. Tested this with bounty shot awhile ago and BS had no effect after a missed RA.
Square said themselves years back all you need to do is produce enmity on a mob to activate TH >.>
Correct, my mistake, just have to get on the hate ladder in some way or another.
Fenrir.Curty said:
I guess this could be easily tested, bring a thf out with base th3 and base th7, let the th7 hit it once and then let the th3 try procing. Compare results to th7 procing himself. If don't experience much difference, we have our answer.
edit: nvm I missread that. But I'm fairly certain the only way to change the proc-rate is by using SA/TA
Valefor.Integral said:
you are certain wearing +th gear while doing sneak attacks/trick attacks/etc will not increase the chance of an additional proc?
testing on this?
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I seem to be the worst thf ever. never seen more than th7. with knife & +2 feet.
Leviathan.Browolf said: »
I seem to be the worst thf ever. never seen more than th7. with knife & +2 feet.
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Quick question for TH gear do I have to keep em on till first proc or just the first hit? Speakin about dyna solo where I don't get to solo SA nd keep it to WS on the mob after red procs
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