1 Brew; 2 Force Pops
1 Brew; 2 Force pops
First tag applies th6, th7 with atma of dread. If th8-10 made that big of a difference, that might be valid... but to my knowledge, there's very little research in way of that. All you need is a THF on standby to tag or have the brewer themselves be a THF.
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Odin.Katoke said:
Forgetting the fact TH takes time to proc and if your not proccing TH on those NMs (least in Tah/LaTh/Kons), you'll probably be farming more sets anyway in that time.
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Unless you're 48-49/50 shells and just don't want to wait, why would you ever brew Glavoid?
I don't know but, I saw it happen...twice while I was in tahrongi one day. (They almost wiped when brew wore off too, guess they couldn't kill it :<)
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Leviathan.Hohenheim said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Unless you're 48-49/50 shells and just don't want to wait, why would you ever brew Glavoid?
I don't know but, I saw it happen...twice while I was in tahrongi one day. (They almost wiped when brew wore off too, guess they couldn't kill it :<)
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Leviathan.Hohenheim said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Unless you're 48-49/50 shells and just don't want to wait, why would you ever brew Glavoid?
Cerberus.Tikal said:
Killing 5 Glavoids, at 10 minutes each (Removing ??? respawn and whatever healing preparations.), that'd take 50 minutes, whereas brewing 5 with 1 brew would take around 10 minutes. If you're blitzing it for fastest and most effective time/effort ratio, you save an entire alliance 40 minutes by investing 2 hours in a cruor farming PT yourself.
One thing:
Who takes alliances to glavoid?
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Was just thinking about this sort of strategy myself. Could potentially cut the time it takes to make an empyrean weapon by quite a nice chunk.
Leviathan.Hohenheim said:
Cerberus.Tikal said:
Killing 5 Glavoids, at 10 minutes each (Removing ??? respawn and whatever healing preparations.), that'd take 50 minutes, whereas brewing 5 with 1 brew would take around 10 minutes. If you're blitzing it for fastest and most effective time/effort ratio, you save an entire alliance 40 minutes by investing 2 hours in a cruor farming PT yourself.
Who takes alliances to glavoid?
Glavoid can be killed with 2-3 people with and mules in <5 minutes... I dont see the point wasting brews on it since you generally need a couple people to farm the KI's and get reds anyways. The vast majority of the time for glavoid is spent getting pops- the nm itself is trivial.
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Bahamut.Dasva said:
Leviathan.Hohenheim said:
Cerberus.Tikal said:
Killing 5 Glavoids, at 10 minutes each (Removing ??? respawn and whatever healing preparations.), that'd take 50 minutes, whereas brewing 5 with 1 brew would take around 10 minutes. If you're blitzing it for fastest and most effective time/effort ratio, you save an entire alliance 40 minutes by investing 2 hours in a cruor farming PT yourself.
Who takes alliances to glavoid?
I wish I was there to see the show lol. It was pobably super raged or something too. One time, we took a glavoid from a group that was fighting it through 2 blunts in vana days after they just gave up. The thing was taking almost 0 damage critical hits...
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Leviathan.Hohenheim said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Leviathan.Hohenheim said:
Cerberus.Tikal said:
Killing 5 Glavoids, at 10 minutes each (Removing ??? respawn and whatever healing preparations.), that'd take 50 minutes, whereas brewing 5 with 1 brew would take around 10 minutes. If you're blitzing it for fastest and most effective time/effort ratio, you save an entire alliance 40 minutes by investing 2 hours in a cruor farming PT yourself.
Fenrir.Terminus said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Use magian goggles talk to book, timer for brew won't go down since you're talking to npc
This really is rocking my brain... AND you could still stagger this way - pop, stagger, close the book, kill, book.... motherofgod.jpg
Until you get banned for abusing mechanics... They've patched ***before because of NPC abuse (remember the mammet trick in CoP missions anyone?)
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Sylph.Gredival said:
Fenrir.Terminus said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Use magian goggles talk to book, timer for brew won't go down since you're talking to npc
This really is rocking my brain... AND you could still stagger this way - pop, stagger, close the book, kill, book.... motherofgod.jpg
Until you get banned for abusing mechanics... They've patched ***before because of NPC abuse (remember the mammet trick in CoP missions anyone?)
Ohnoes!
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This isn't exactly a new feature to the game, it's been around since it came out. There just wasn't any real reason to use it until now.
Terrain had been out since the game came out too.
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Terrain didn't get people banned afaik
Edit: assuming you mean the recent terrain tweaks, not WoJ
Edit: assuming you mean the recent terrain tweaks, not WoJ
Except terrain abuse technically violated the rules. Technically here the mob can and will still hurt you. And some could possibly kill you. You aren't actually doing anything to the mobs just sorta extending the duration of a buff.
I dont get why people pull the whole "lolwhyuseitonsomethingsoeasy"card.
1) What isnt easy in Abyssea? Rani maybe but even then, once you keep eponas rings dont need to really do it anymore
2) People act like getting cruor is hard.
1) What isnt easy in Abyssea? Rani maybe but even then, once you keep eponas rings dont need to really do it anymore
2) People act like getting cruor is hard.
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lets just bring it to everyone's attention so it gets patched, thanks a bunch dude...
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no one got banned for doing that npc invulnerability glitch for the mammets, as far as i know... but there were bans for doing that to AV!
This has been around since Smn burning in the jungles, not exactly new. And yea, if you wanna be smart, take people that can blue/grellow the mob as well as th it, then blow it up with a brewtello. Drops kill time from 10 minutes for higher NMs to 1-2, with full procs.
Got 24 alfard fangs in 3 brews, do the math.
Using magian specs works, but it event skips you after 1 minute, wasting brew time. do it on a conflux/chest/martello.
Got 24 alfard fangs in 3 brews, do the math.
Using magian specs works, but it event skips you after 1 minute, wasting brew time. do it on a conflux/chest/martello.
Far cry between using a terrain glitch to take 0 damage from NMs and clicking an NPC to extend your brew duration so it's useful for more than 1 mob.
Bismarck.Ihina said:
People generally proc the appropriate weakness before taking something down with the brewer.
That's actually a pretty good idea.
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Use magian goggles talk to book, timer for brew won't go down since you're talking to npc
That's actually a pretty good idea.
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Use magian goggles talk to book, timer for brew won't go down since you're talking to npc
One thing to remember is that the book itself is on a timer and will disappear after a fairly short amount of time (2-3 minutes tops). If a 2 minute break is all you need it should work, but don't be expecting to hold your brew while everyone grabs a bite and farms pops.
Schwertzauberer said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Use magian goggles talk to book, timer for brew won't go down since you're talking to npc
One thing to remember is that the book itself is on a timer and will disappear after a fairly short amount of time (2-3 minutes tops). If a 2 minute break is all you need it should work, but don't be expecting to hold your brew while everyone grabs a bite and farms pops.
Cool.
Just resummon it then? I don't think it has a wait time at all..hell, you can even macro it, so it sucks 1-5seconds brew time per book spawn. Pretty good trade-off if you ask me.
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Leviathan.Hohenheim said:
Schwertzauberer said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Use magian goggles talk to book, timer for brew won't go down since you're talking to npc
One thing to remember is that the book itself is on a timer and will disappear after a fairly short amount of time (2-3 minutes tops). If a 2 minute break is all you need it should work, but don't be expecting to hold your brew while everyone grabs a bite and farms pops.
Cool.
Just resummon it then? I don't think it has a wait time at all..hell, you can even macro it, so it sucks 1-5seconds brew time per book spawn. Pretty good trade-off if you ask me.
It's easier/safer/better to just have someone pop the NM and drag it to the martello. Those few seconds is the difference between brewing an extra kill a lot of the time. Maybe if it was in some weird location the goggles would be nice. D: Still a neat trick though, I never even thought about the magian specs...
zomg empyrean weapons here i comez
Leviathan.Niniann said:
Leviathan.Hohenheim said:
Schwertzauberer said:
Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Use magian goggles talk to book, timer for brew won't go down since you're talking to npc
Worked wonderfully using the Magian Specs on Bukhis with my mule RDM!! I'm sure that a bit of time got eaten up due to magian specs depopping, but it sure saved the hassle of dragging Bukhis around. I just wanted to test it out to see how it worked, and if it did in fact work.. lol
Only got 2 Bukhis out of it though, but that was 2 Bukhis done in 5 minutes total as opposed to the typical long dragging fights...
Bukhis isn't really worth a brew. Bring 3 people who can evade and a grellow proc team (2 THF, DNC, BLM/BRD, WHM, BLU is what we try and go with). Send two of your evasion people in at a time (DNC+THF to start) and have people run and get buffs again if they're dispelled with the third evasion tank taking their place. 5-10 minute fights tops. If you can't pull that many people, you can do it with as few as 2x Evasion tank + WHM.
Adzaja, Pantokrator, Apademak, Shinryu, and Rani are the ones worth brewing that I can think of. It's obviously a cost:reward calculation you have to do for yourself, but I'd pay 200k cruor (split among those present) to shorten those 5 fights.
Adzaja, Pantokrator, Apademak, Shinryu, and Rani are the ones worth brewing that I can think of. It's obviously a cost:reward calculation you have to do for yourself, but I'd pay 200k cruor (split among those present) to shorten those 5 fights.
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