Speculatory Theorycrafting New FFXI Update

I think in exchange for SCH getting R3, WHM should get some spell or JA that removes Weakness, similar to Ferreous Coffin's Reviviscence.

sch got rr2/r2 and regen 3... and /refresh is subable, it does not surprise me much if they add cure5/r3 on sch

not saying its not a bad idea but.... wouldn't that kill half the reason to avoid dieing?
If they ever did that the weakness removing spell would have an insanse recast timer.

I'm still for RDM having Amnesia, but odds are that won't happen.

Other than that, I was so wrong last time, so I'm done speculating.

berserk/confuse spell on sch or rdm, its on altana viewer ,odd it's not implemented yet

I DO know that RDM and DRK are going to get break though. It's in the dats, check them yourself.

POIDH

Who gets what spell is in the dats?

it was posted on the windower forums somewhere, I'll have to get the link. was posted in my LS's forums, too. brb

My first though is they'd just make it useless like it is in all the other FFs. You'd have be the target of the cast and it has to be a PC spell or if they have higher mATK/mACC/INT or something then Reflect has no effect.

Faith/Bravery would be pretty cool though.

You can tell this from .dats? Blm has break, and the spell itself has been in the game for years. I cant see RDM getting it imo, would be nice but I doubt it.

You can't afaik, which was my point.

If SCH gets raise 3 my RDM demands Raise 2 and re-raise wouldn't go a miss either

edit meant rdm not sch lol

I see it this way.
RDM
Obvious Spells
Cure5
Fire4
??? (new spell)
??Blizzard IV??

Potential Spells (level 90-99 maybe?)
Virus
Amnesia
Berserk
Confuse
Ignis
Aer
Terra
Aqua
Wall
Reflect

Introduce job 1 hour abilities, go.

I think I'd like to see 4-5 hr job abilities tbh.

that's just silly talk :P however if they could up with some pretty powerful things, I'd be willing to pay attention.

Or a 24 hr ability would make more sense too. Basically an ability that you can only use once a day.

1 hour abilities that don't create hate (short of normal JA hate)be interesting to see, any of them really, but would we want things powerful enough to justify a timer of the sorts (4+) seriously? doesn't anyone want any challenge left?

I was actually being sarcastic with my previous statement. I suppose it wasn't obvious enough...

wasn't sure, so took it for face.

I have my scroll of shell V ready for my rdm to use once level cap increases, I thought that was more obvious than most of the "obvious" spells people have been saying it'll get.

We'll definitely see Fire IV, but I have a sneaking suspicion that we won't see Bliz and Thunder IV until closer to 99, and we won't see any TV. BLM I think will be just a little ahead of RDM with their highest tier spells, probably seeing both Fire and Blizzard this update, with Thunder V reserved for the 90-95 stretch, and making us wait until 99 for comet/meteor. The ja line of spells will also finish up with thunderja at close to level 99 I think, but there's certainly room for some other spells in there for blm, and especially for rdm.

As for reflect, if any job gets anything even close to this, it'll most probably be mimic like colibri have, and will generally be completely useless. It will only work when mobs cast on you, you'll still take damage as normal, but will insta-cast the same spell back to the mob, which will generally be resisted. Most mobs that cast Thundaga IV on you aren't going to take a lot of damage, or even be healed if you cast that same element back at them. However, they could take a leaf out of FFXIV's book here and have it as a spell or ja that can only be used shortly after being hit by magic. So when you're hit by magic, you have say, 5 seconds to cast/use mimic, which will give you control over which spells you attempt to "reflect", as well as giving you time to gear for them.

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Other jobs I dunno.

Three fail BLU spells, 1 godly one, and one that is even better but that no one can figure out how to gear for so we all think is absolute ***.

RDMs get pissy because SCH gets something they want, and then we find out that there was a ninja-nerf to do refresh II with accession or we get some buff that starts off awesome but gets nerfed in 15 hours.

THF sneak attack breaks. Again. For the lulz, because that was *** hysterical.

MNK caps haste without black belt, or something.

SAM gets a fail WS, and Fudo/YGKR still remain king.

DRK gets some lulzy magic based WSs.

Ranger gets a JA that is deemed useless but someone on BG finds some niche for it and RNG is awesomesauce thereon after.

WHM gets regen IV and maybe raise IV.

BLMs complain because SCH exists. Again.

PUP gets buffed, again.

WAR gets another super WS and JA and is just crowned God of the game again.

Another line of shitty weapons (see: magnus).

Magian trials get nerfed, even more; hello only needing 20 Chloris Buds or w/e.

Another celerity abyssite.

Brew cruor cost is cut in half.

New lunar abyssite gotten by doing all the abyssea quests.

Fafnir is now soloable by PLD/DNC.

Upgradable salvage gear, but costs waaaay too much to upgrade; everyone ***.

Relic weapons reclaim their thrones by getting buffs to their WS and Aftermaths now.

More TOTM, obviously.

Figure they'll do this soon enough. I'd think 90 would be about time, don't think relic holders want to wait till 99.

I would love to see some new WS's for pup's auto we are really due for that
I wouldnt mind pushing 2hr abilities up to 1hr and creating new 2hr ones.. or leave them in place and do a 4-5hr ability, would be kinda fun to have something like that in game

I'd like to see new merits for all jobs, I know alot of people are just completely out of things to merit without leveling new jobs. Oh, can we have a bard trial instrument =3

would be epically boring, and take forever to accomplish that, dont you think?

they need to work on blm merits, am2 spells are getting wothless to unlock since tier5 nukes now

You say that like it isn't already the case for all ToM quests.