Ramuh.Thunderz said:
PLD just got sexy'er'er
Damn native phalanx awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww yeah
Damn native phalanx awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww yeah
I wholeheartedly agree, along with the acc you get with get with cures. This makes me VERY happy too ;)
Adjustments Of The Job Persuasion!
Adjustments of the Job Persuasion!
I wholeheartedly agree, along with the acc you get with get with cures. This makes me VERY happy too ;)
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SE should have given BLM'S that "Mimic" ability as a spell as compensation for what those birds did to kick BLM's from party. invites. A spell with a duration time. THEY OWE US! could you imagine BLM's back in bird camps volleying spells like that.
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Sylph.Lalo said:
War/dnc tanking with axe and shield that hmm.... the possibilities or having that as pld90/war45
Makes sense to me more considering how fencing is done.
Sylph.Techlife said:
"- The "Dual Wield" job trait will become available to dancers at level 20, with the degree of mastery increasing in stages thereafter."
WTF SE i want it for thf >_>
WTF SE i want it for thf >_>
I was pissed here, people have asked for it for thf way longer than dancer. Why not give it to both? they gave them thf dancing edge this sucks. they do not want thf to change sub jobs /nin is all it is.
Caitsith.Alriath said:
I can't believe we(sams)don't get conserve TP or tactical parry.
Also think giving other jobs Dual Wield natively is wack, the rest of the updates look great.
Massive sam nerf incoming.
Also think giving other jobs Dual Wield natively is wack, the rest of the updates look great.
Massive sam nerf incoming.
Based on the past games thf should have had it native a long time ago.
Cerberus.Lilla said:
SE should have given BLM'S that "Mimic" ability as a spell as compensation for what those birds did to kick BLM's from party. invites. A spell with a duration time. THEY OWE US! could you imagine BLM's back in bird camps volleying spells like that.
This would actually be AWESOME. Probably would never happen though.
Ragnarok.Vitaru said:
Aisha actully isn't a native jp word, and it means lively in Arabic. anyway I think it restores some portion of HP or could be a raise spell?
哀車の術:壱
"Technique of Aisha: Ichi"
When Japanese incorporate foreign words, they typically write the words with katana*; that SE uses kanji instead means it's supposed to be Japanese.
(Well, a loan word wouldn't be in kanji unless the word is borrowed from Chinese--but it isn't, unless SE is somehow referencing the Taiwanese abbreviation for Alfa Romeo. >_>; On a funny note, yes, Alfa Romeo is abbreviated to "sad car" in Taiwan, apparently. Perhaps it's hint at the brand's reliability?)
In any case, seems highly unlikely any Arabic is involved. (Not that I'd mind, but it would seem a tad weird.)
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Have a BLM Grav->T4 MNKs to force HF, then sleep them. No longer dangerous.
Hundred Fists has a long start up time, so is easy to deal with as long as people are paying attention (i.e not auto-attacking while semi-AFK or watching TV).
If dnc gets Dual Wield @ 20 wouldn't that mean we could /dnc and have dual wield?
Exceter said:
If dnc gets Dual Wield @ 20 wouldn't that mean we could /dnc and have dual wield?
Exceter said:
If dnc gets Dual Wield @ 20 wouldn't that mean we could /dnc and have dual wield?
Well this does not matter. people have been asking for dual wield on thf for years. It would help bring them up there again. But SE does not want to think outside the box, yes I can dual dancer. now. In meripo this means ***to a thf who has not gotten parties since the meripo updates.
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Exceter said:
If dnc gets Dual Wield @ 20 wouldn't that mean we could /dnc and have dual wield?
"The "Dual Wield" job trait will become available to dancers at level 20, with the degree of mastery increasing in stages thereafter."
Im guessing dual wield I at lvl 20, II @ 35, III @ 55, IV @ 75/80. A little offset from ninja but give or take, you get the idea. And given the lower delay on daggers you MIGHT actually see dnc attacking faster...combined with full haste samba merits ya never know.
Dnc attack faster yes. I meant that random job say thf will attack faster /nin than /dnc
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Ramuh.Dasva said:
Dnc attack faster yes. I meant that random job say thf will attack faster /nin than /dnc
Ahhh...gotcha.
In other news...thf/dnc is gonna be even better for those of us who farm a fair ammount. Dual wield, triple attack and haste/drain samba's make me happy in da pants. Does anyone know/guess how Despoil is gonna work? Is it going to be a steal ability separate from our existing steal ability..ie: will we have two chances to steal in 5 min?
I think WHM got the best, hidden, buff of all. With every DD begging event leaders to let them sub /SAM now--for that sexy Hasso/Med/SexyNookie combo--someone is going to have to heal all those HPs, and mass healers are going to be so popular... :p
The price on shihei might drop a bit, too, with everyone coming /SAM. RR items might go up in price, also... :p
The price on shihei might drop a bit, too, with everyone coming /SAM. RR items might go up in price, also... :p
Phalanx on Alex has already started to go through the roof. Unfortunately, i didn't get my RDM up there for it in time b4 realizing ppl were going to do that. oh well. guess i can do the BCNM it drops in and hope for the best. currently 250k now. other nice thing about /dnc is access to a higher curing waltz than II.
Fenrir.Schutz said:
I think WHM got the best, hidden, buff of all. With every DD begging event leaders to let them sub /SAM now--for that sexy Hasso/Med/SexyNookie combo--someone is going to have to heal all those HPs, and mass healers are going to be so popular... :p
The price on shihei might drop a bit, too, with everyone coming /SAM. RR items might go up in price, also... :p
The price on shihei might drop a bit, too, with everyone coming /SAM. RR items might go up in price, also... :p
Everybody should allready be going \sam D:
why are so many people praising seki? idk bout other sam but that ja is at best an opening 2 ws when u have been idle for a while/ start of a boss etc..it does nothing at all in general combat situations. Someone can please enlighten me?
Quetzalcoatl.Brayenn said:
why are so many people praising seki? idk bout other sam but that ja is at best an opening 2 ws when u have been idle for a while/ start of a boss etc..it does nothing at all in general combat situations. Someone can please enlighten me?
Quetzalcoatl.Brayenn said:
why are so many people praising seki? idk bout other sam but that ja is at best an opening 2 ws when u have been idle for a while/ start of a boss etc..it does nothing at all in general combat situations. Someone can please enlighten me?
Solo skillchain is nice, but it's not like it's what makes Samurai a great DD.
Like, Raging rush -> raging rush -> Fragmentation, that's a good boost in dmg.
Edit: But I see no reason to whine about this at all. Samurai is still prolly gonna be dd-king >_>
Cerberus.Kvazz said:
Quetzalcoatl.Brayenn said:
why are so many people praising seki? idk bout other sam but that ja is at best an opening 2 ws when u have been idle for a while/ start of a boss etc..it does nothing at all in general combat situations. Someone can please enlighten me?
Solo skillchain is nice, but it's not like it's what makes Samurai a great DD.
Like, Raging rush -> raging rush -> Fragmentation, that's a good boost in dmg.
Edit: But I see no reason to whine about this at all. Samurai is still prolly gonna be dd-king >_>
Alexander.Xgalahadx said:
Cerberus.Kvazz said:
Quetzalcoatl.Brayenn said:
why are so many people praising seki? idk bout other sam but that ja is at best an opening 2 ws when u have been idle for a while/ start of a boss etc..it does nothing at all in general combat situations. Someone can please enlighten me?
Solo skillchain is nice, but it's not like it's what makes Samurai a great DD.
Like, Raging rush -> raging rush -> Fragmentation, that's a good boost in dmg.
Edit: But I see no reason to whine about this at all. Samurai is still prolly gonna be dd-king >_>
My money is on SAM beeing the best DD still, specially concidering the avarage gear.
Cerberus.Kvazz said:
Samurai is still prolly gonna be dd-king >_>
And you know this :p
Sekkanoki is not game breaking in any way shape or form -.- If you take the time to save up to 200TP when you could have used at 100TP then you're doing it wrong. Of course I know someone will say but that's not possible all of the time but let's presume we know about those situations already \o/
Interested to know what SAM WS will be like with the new job triat and ability!
Whoever thought sam was the best DD to begin with needs to leave pink birds and look at a parse. Monk/war has always beaten samurai hands down for the past 8 years that monk as been out. Warrior/sam also beats samurai in a parse if you are well geared.
Edit; The people who find samurai to out DD everything else in end game are probably the people who do events with tards that don't buff their melee. This would in turn favor samurai due to the Pdif bonus on gekko.
Edit; The people who find samurai to out DD everything else in end game are probably the people who do events with tards that don't buff their melee. This would in turn favor samurai due to the Pdif bonus on gekko.
I agree, well geared MNK are notoriously difficult to keep up with on SAM bar birdies.
Cerberus.Excelior said:
Whoever thought sam was the best DD to begin with needs to leave pink birds and look at a parse. Monk/war has always beaten samurai hands down for the past 8 years that monk as been out. Warrior/sam also beats samurai in a parse if you are well geared.
And as for a good war/sam beating a sam this weighs on gear significantly. The way i see it is a base war with ah gear will be worse than a base sam with ah gear but a pimp war will beat a pimp sam. So i guess that makes war the onion knights of ffxi xD.
Cerberus.Excelior said:
Whoever thought sam was the best DD to begin with needs to leave pink birds and look at a parse. Monk/war has always beaten samurai hands down for the past 8 years that monk as been out. Warrior/sam also beats samurai in a parse if you are well geared.
Edit; The people who find samurai to out DD everything else in end game are probably the people who do events with tards that don't buff their melee. This would in turn favor samurai due to the Pdif bonus on gekko.
Edit; The people who find samurai to out DD everything else in end game are probably the people who do events with tards that don't buff their melee. This would in turn favor samurai due to the Pdif bonus on gekko.
Concidering avarage gear etc etc SAM is the most reliable over-all best DD.
Gimp SAM -> gimp anything else.
Allso: Kaiten have no Pdif bonus so buffs are just as important on SAM! :P
Cerberus.Kvazz said:
Cerberus.Excelior said:
Whoever thought sam was the best DD to begin with needs to leave pink birds and look at a parse. Monk/war has always beaten samurai hands down for the past 8 years that monk as been out. Warrior/sam also beats samurai in a parse if you are well geared. Edit; The people who find samurai to out DD everything else in end game are probably the people who do events with tards that don't buff their melee. This would in turn favor samurai due to the Pdif bonus on gekko.
I guess samurai is pretty retard friendly. However given the volume of them with relics on this server that still use ace's helm instead of turban when TPing its obvious that its not 100% retard proof. The point about kaiten is moot, if you need the pdif bonus the player should be using gekko not kaiten. You should be stacking STR as well on that ws and not attack because it has an STR mod. The pdif cap is achievable with buffs on most end game mobs -hnm and therefore there really is no reason to gear for it unless you plan on fighting without any buffs. Its really tiring to listen to people say that relic WSs function heavily on attack. They are the same as any other WS and subject to the same damage equations. Anyone who knows anything will know that FSTR is the hardest part of that equation to reach the cap on, even on merit mobs.
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