SUBJOBS: Abilitys We're Getting FOR SURE On Next Update

HERE IT COMES!
I think the mage jobs are gonna have the most improvement from this update. /NIN and /DNC get big updates too. THOUGHTS?

/RDM
- Convert
- Raise (for BLMs)
- Ice Spikes
- Barvirus
- Water II
- Magic Attack Bonus II (Job trait)

/WHM:
- Afflatus Solace / Misery
- Stona
- Teleport-Altep
- Teleport-Yhoat
- Cura
- Banishga II
- Haste
- Barvira

/BLM
- Warp II
- Fire II
- Stonega II

/SCH
- Assession
- Manifestation
- Erase
- Shell II
- Aero II
- Resist Silence II (job trait)

/SMN
- Crimson Howl (Ifrit)
- Sleepga (Shiva)
- Resist Slow II (job trait)

/WAR
nothing

/NIN
- Yonnin
- Innin
- Elemental Wheel (Katon, Hyoton, Huton, Doton, Raiton and Suiton: Ni)

/COR
- Quick Draw
- Evoker's Roll

/RNG
- Shadowbind
- Wide Scan IV (job trait)
- Resist Poison II (job trait)

/PLD
- Shell II
- Resist Sleep II (job trait)

/BLU
- Chain Affinity
- Blank Gaze
- Jet Stream
- Uppercut
- Mysterious Light
- Terror Touch

/MNK
nothing

/THF
- Resist Gravity II (job trait)

/SAM
- Demon Killer (job trait)

/DRK
- Absorb-INT
- Bio II
- Resist Paralyze II (job trait)

/BST
- Lizard Killer (job trait)
- Wide Scan III (job trait)

/DRG
nothing

/BRD
- Earth Carol
- Water Carol
- Battlefield Elegy

/PUP
- Evasion Bonus II (job trait)

/DNC
- Reverse Flourish
- Stutter Step

SUBJOBS: abilitys we're getting FOR SURE on next update

No one knows, enough said.

Can't really guarantee some of those though.

Yonin/Innin
Chain Affinity
Shadowbind
Quick Draw
Afflatus Solace/Misery


While it's likely we'll get them, they could take them away and make them available as a Main Job only.

Aside from DRG and SMN pets and NIN Ni, has SE gimped any other sub ability/trait? I'd be inclined to think all available things would be well... available.

I'm I the only one NOT looking forward to the following scenario:

You do a Nyzul/BCNM/ISM/What have you with a shout group.
Battle Won.
Treasure Pool Fills.
"OMG WOW look we got <insert Awesome Item Name Here>"

Suddenly... you hear it go off.
and *POOF* you at your Homepoint.

That's when you realize, the RDM/BLM just Chainspelled/Warp 2'd the party... thus taking the drops.

Really not looking forward to the Level Increase in Douchbagery

I've heard that Yonin/Innin and the Afflatus abilities won't be useable as subbed jobs.

EDIT: You also missed Refresh under /RDM.

EDIT2: And Chi Blast under /MNK.

Erm, nyzul isle is lv75 capped yes?

Its level 41


My bad. But still doesn't stop it from a BCNM/Etc

49 will be the sub level at 99. >.>

EDIT: Oh, 'NEXT' update.

Bolded are abilities they've said we won't get from subjobs. CA's no big deal since you have to close with a spell, which will make for a pretty weak skillchain compared to what BLU mains and other self-SCers can pull off. Shadowbind and QD are up in the air though.

Meditate

OP is taking about 80 cap increase next update.
Or else there would have been a ***-ton more abilities/traits listed.

Yeah, got that now.

Souleater

Sneak Attack, Trick Attack, waltzes

Ah, must've missed that XD When did they say that?

Yonin/Innins is the equivalent to convert and refresh to rdm. And thats the same as warp 2.

SE said they would make job ability adjustments for subs. Which will likely gimp the ja's somewhat like how NI is 4 shadows will main but only 3 while subbed.

Wow, I missed a lot of them.

I don't know this for sure but I think /BST loses the ability to Leave pets as well (lvl 35 ability on BST).

if SE makes
- Assession
- Manifestation

available as a sub job they need shooting!

Wtf no stun from /blm? theres a reason Im lvlin that subjob, dont make me touch drk!

no one even knows if we are going straight to 99 or if it will be done in incriments.....

Yes we do. Level cap is rising in increments.

OP said recent update.
Meaning to 80. BLM gets Stun at 45.

and trust me...i'm excited that I won't have to RDM/DRK as well




Still amazed no one reads the update info from FanFest, etc etc

Shadowbind will be added-- specifically they used it as an example in stating the ability itself going to subs won't take away from the main jobs functionality. Quick Draw I'm sure will be added, but nerfed by half or more.

{True strike}. Although I am looking forward to having D2 as well as stun (@ 45) No more drk sub for me! Yay!~

Also, has anyone heard anything on whats going to happen to merits? I am wondering if they are going to keep merit mode switchable at 75+ or are they going to make it capped out at 80, 85, etc~. Just a small concern I have been wondering about. I don't think they would change the level you had to be to obtain merits just because of level increase but you know how SE can be...

They announced on twitter that they will keep current merit system (@75), and add a new one when we reach the level99 cap. So you can switch to merits as long as you talk to the NPC when you get lvl75.

btw, if you still have doubt getting refresh as /rdm on the next updates (from vanafest website)

"We intend to ensure that red mages maintain the prominent position they currently enjoy, while closely monitoring their balance with other magic-wielding jobs.
->For example, the level cap increase will render both “Convert” and “Refresh” usable by support jobs.<- If this gives red mages more free time in their parties, we will find ways for them to fill that time productively. If this threatens to deprive the job of its uniqueness, however, we will make sure to cover for this in other areas."

I'm more worried about what they'll give mains than what they'll give subjobs. Sort of hoping for Curing Waltz 3 at 49.
Wodner if WHM will get that spell that removes weakened status, or if SAM will get Gil Toss like they have in every iteration of the series.

Don't think that they will give a spell like that, its SE, but well, who knows.