Death Scythe/Tredecim Scythe/Moliones's Set

well i'll go try it out again later after my chem final

You can psuedo 6hit 501 scythes with as little as 20sTP (3/4hits), so a 528 scythe with sword should be as easy as Volkom says.

Yes, taking for example Perdu sickle with 501 delay...you get 13.6 TP with each hit(with zero StoreTP); for a true 6hit build/5hit rebuild you would need at least 23StoreTP for TP and 22 StoreTP for WS; however, with a multi-hit WS like Guillotine this is not really necessary.

You get 13.6 TP on the first hit of Guillotine and all the other hits give you 1 TP returns, again, with zero StoreTP. Also, StoreTP not only applies to the first hit of a multi-hit WS but also on the extra hits as well.

Using the standard /sam, rajas ring, and brutal earring for 21 StoreTP for TP and WS...you will get a TP return, after a WS, of 20TP if you land 4 hits on guillotine.(you can also get ~21-22 TP returns with double attack etc.)

The 20TP return on WS is done by: 13.6 * .21 = 16.4 for the first guillotine hit, then the last 3 are one TP each, so 3 * .21 = 3.6...then it's 16.4TP + 3.6TP which = 20TP.

So you would do, 13.6 *.21 + 13.6 = 16.4TP * 5 hits = 82TP, 20TP from WS and then add 82TP from the 5 hits = 102 TP.

Also, if you land at least 3 WS hits(need to land the first one and any 2 others, since the first hit gives the highest TP return), you will get 82TP for 5 melee hits then do + 18.8TP from WS TP, which = 100.8 TP...so yes, you can still just do a "pseudo 501 delay 6hit build" with only 21StoreTP.

It won't be a true 6hit build because you need to land a least 3 WS hits, and when you start from 0%TP, it will take you 7hits to 100%TP. Therefore, it is actually a 7hit/5hit rebuild technically. But with Meditate you should pretty much never start a fight with 0%TP and, again, landing 3+ hits on WS shouldn't be hard...so yeah it works pretty well.

That being said, 528 with sword strap is a 512 delay, so using logic you can also see that you should have no problem with just 21 StoreTP, since you can do it with 501 delay like Argettio said.

I also pointed out in a previous post that 21 StoreTP actually gives a true 6hit with 512 delay(that is, you only need to land the first WS hit), thus if you're using a 528 delay weapon for whatever reason, sword strap works great for it. Specially with the new OAT vengeance scythe or the Ultimatum scythe, both from the magian quest which have a 528 delay.

Only reason I see not to use a sword strap with a 528 delay weapon is if you're trying to go with a 5hit/4hit rebuild with that 528 delay, in which case you would want rose strap but also other very specific storeTP gear which will sacrifice a lot of accuracy in the long run and limit its usage to only very weak mobs, and not for most things/events IMO.

Ok~ just tested it out using 528delay scythe with
brutal earring, rajas ring, chiv.chain
its barely a 6hit build~ got to 101tp on the 6th hit.
lol~
cool beans :3

Yes, but using Chivalrous chain is not necessary. You could use Justice torque or Peacock charm or whatever other neck piece with no storeTP, and still have a true 6hit with a 528 delay weapon with sword strap. (and true 6hit is not really necessary either because of Guillotine as I have already explained earlier, but I suppose it's always nice to have.)

With just /sam, rajas ring, and brutal earring for 21 StoreTP... it will put you at exactly 100%TP.

Though you're exactly right that with 22 StoreTP, you will be at 101% TP after 6hits. (or after 5 hits after a WS)

I really hate to say this, but mobs with tp reset moves (or remove gear) say hi!

Hello :), I am needing some advice as to which scythe I should pick from the Moliones's Set or Death scythe +1 with sniper/ulthalam's. I know perdu is best especially since I'm nowhere near acc cap, but I don't have the IS for it yet. This is my current TP set up for if it matters.

Moliones' will do a bit more damage than Death +1 there. You'll probably also get better results TPing in a Hauby line body (though Corazza looks sexy I know!). Work on Fowling/Assault Earring and Bomblet as well as Blitz Ring, obviously Homam Legs/PCC too.

ooh forgot about assault earring, thanks! Also where am I going to fit Blitz ring in? Unless your suggesting I take out Moliones ring? ><

I believe blitz is for acc capped situations? So losing the molione ring should'nt matter.

Blitz Ring will be better than Moli during TP phase, obviously not during WS - this is provided you can spare the accuracy. At 95% (+ 2.5%+) accuracy, you're looking at 4str vs 1% Haste for TP phase.

If you aim to eat pizza everywhere except on birds, you'll find you can make this swap very often (and have a lot of flexibility during WS etc).

I use pizza on High lvl NM's and mamool meripos, everything else which doesnt last too long is basically yellow curry buns and I just use diabolic eye every time I see its up. Thanks for the advice ^^,I appreciate it!