Empyrean Aftermath Synergy With SoulEater

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Empyrean aftermath Synergy With SoulEater
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By Bolmster 2025-12-01 10:55:50
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Just wondering if the occasional deals double damage effect of Caladbolg definitely doubles the extra damage added to your attacks from Souleater.

It would be nice to have some actual numbers from someone who tested in game to confirm laying out what weapon they used and confirming if they capped FSTR/Attack and swung at what HP level etc.
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By Genoxd 2025-12-01 11:39:29
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I would assume it doesn't but this is easy to test due to how large of a delta the double DMG would have.
My assumption is no because soul eater just adds a flat amount of damage per hit which is added after pDif

I suspect that you can eyeball this fast.

Go hit something with lots of HP like a locus colibri to get a sense for your baseline with and without AM procs. Then hit soul eater and check again.

With massive HP pool on DRK it should be pretty obvious.
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By Bolmster 2025-12-02 17:42:38
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Yea I'm 35/50 Carabosse atm, so I can report back in a few months XD.
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By Bolmster 2025-12-24 16:37:12
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Ok, so reporting back now that I have the lv85 Caladbolg. TL:DR souleater doesn't stack with the aftermath. I went to Li'telor as DRK/WHM so I could pop SE, swing once, heal myself to full and swing again.

My melee swings without SE were between 549 and 573. That difference was 4.37% so that was almost the whole spread. My HP was 1828 and I didn't use AF head for bonus so SE bonus was 10% of HP.

Scenario 1:
Noncrit minimum with Souleater NOT affected:
min = 549*2+0.1*1828 = 1280.8
Noncrit max with Souleater NOT affected:
max = 573*2+0.1*1828 = 1328.8

Scenario 2:
Noncrit minimum with Souleater affected:
min = 549*2+0.1*1828*2 = 1463.6
Noncrit max with Souleater affected:
max = 573*2+0.1*1828*2 = 1511.6

My first three actuals were:
1306, 1296, and 1279

So clearly the SE bonus isn't doubled during Empy aftermath.
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By Odin.Bolmster 2026-05-23 21:36:37
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So I have a follow up with this test I wanted to share. I was trying to understand where this double/triple damage occurs in the formula for damage similar to this post on relics and It looks like it is in the same position. https://www.bluegartr.com/threads/43101-Relic-3x-damage-formula

I fought flamingo in Rauan Gardens and adjusted my STR while using king of hearts dia3 to stay attack capped to get Caladbolg to 303+40fSTR base damage as opposed to the capped 303+41. This let me see a different value for damage when k was right after base dmg as opposed to after pdif or the 1.05 randomizer. Here are the numbers:

Wpn damage = 303
fSTR = 40
k = 3 (lv119 aftermath)
pdif = 3.75+0.5 = 4.25

Normal range calculation:
min = floor((303+40)*4.25) = 1457
max = floor(floor((303+40)*4.25)*1.05) = 1529
My actual range after about 40 swings was 1458 to 1529 so I know my fSTR was at 40 and not 41.


Then with aftermath the 3 options were:

k after base+fstr
min = floor(floor((303+40)*3)*4.25) = 4373
max = floor(floor(floor((303+40)*3)*4.25)*1.05) = 4591


k after pdif
min = floor(floor((303+40)*4.25)*3) = 4371
max = floor(floor(floor((303+40)*4.25)*3)*1.05) = 4589


k after randomizer
min = floor(floor((303+40)*4.25)*3) = 4371
max = floor(floor(floor((303+40)*4.25)*1.05)*3) = 4587

After about 50 procs the range I had was 4374 to 4590. That 4590 is only possible if the k is in the same position as the relic k in Divisorthoery's post on the Bgforums.
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