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By Shichishito 2022-01-03 00:02:18
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when ever i have to communicate even the most basic strategies with auto-translate i can't help but fail miserably.

i'd like to learn so i figured let's make it a mini game: explain a common end game strategy.
if you can decipher it it's your turn to formulate a strat. as a little bonus you can suggest a few words you'd like to get auto-translated.
and remember, <please use the auto-translate function.>

i'll start~


strategy:
<Naegling> <everyone>!

key word suggestions:
- sub job (screw <support job> and <support role job> cause ambiguous)
- tactical points (and/or TP)
- damage
- cooldown
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By Shiva.Thorny 2022-01-03 07:37:32
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{Summoner} {battle strategies}: {/think} {No thanks.} {Astral Conduit} {Yes, please.}
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2022-01-03 08:53:07
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{What weapons can you use?}: {Naegling}
{In what order shall we do our weapon skills?}: {Savage Blade} > {Savage Blade} > {Savage Blade} > {Savage Blade}
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By Odin.Foxmulder 2022-01-03 09:15:55
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{Warrior}{Meat}{Shield}
{Corsair}{Fisherman}
{Scholar}{Healing magic}
etc
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By Shichishito 2022-01-03 10:37:30
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Freehugs said: »
{Mithra} {Rear} {hole} {fun} {Can I have it?} {Giant Donko} {Penta Thrust} {You can have this.}
iirc they removed giant donko from auto translate long ago. instructions unclear, no {Rear} {hole} {fun} was had. mission failed and you won't get em next time.
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By Odin.Foxmulder 2022-01-03 10:39:06
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Shichishito said: »
iirc they removed giant donko from auto translate long ago. instructions unclear, no {Rear} {hole} {fun} was had. mission failed and you won't get em next time.
{Hands}{Down}{Trousers}{Jerkin}{Meat} was also rendered impossible

{Are you alone?}{Child}{I have plans.} is still possible if you want to creep people out, though.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2022-01-03 10:39:45
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They didn't. You just have to type /translate "Giant Donko" and go to items when you hit tab to translate for it to appear, unless you've seen one recently.
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By Shichishito 2022-01-03 10:43:55
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oh my, teach me more of those hidden auto-translate jutsus senpai!
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By Asura.Eiryl 2022-01-03 10:45:39
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They just did. That's the whole thing. Type the command and it adds the item.

The item list only holds the last 200 seen items or so
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By Odin.Foxmulder 2022-01-03 10:51:43
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
They didn't. You just have to type /translate "Giant Donko" and go to items when you hit tab to translate for it to appear, unless you've seen one recently.
Yeah, but we don't have a work around for {*** Helm} anymore.
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By Shichishito 2022-01-03 10:52:33
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ok, now that we got the obvious stuff out of the way lets try something a little more challanging. maybe this months ambu V1 VD the way it's intended?
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By Asura.Aeonova 2022-01-03 15:34:13
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This was always how I said that one.


Doll Gizmo is simply better with the Giant Donko.

This is an important thread, indeed.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2022-01-03 15:42:18
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Shichishito said: »
ok, now that we got the obvious stuff out of the way lets try something a little more challanging. maybe this months ambu V1 VD the way it's intended?

Not even worth attempting. You can say <stop> <attack> <SP> <follow> /point <t> But some things just can't be expressed to pick up groups regardless the context or the language

I recall seriously being annoyed attempting to explain to the SAM that kept messing up the mamool ja with auras, no matter how simply I explained it, it wasn't going to happen.

It was as simple as <stop> <weaponskill> >> <weaponskill> ok! but they would just engage and fudo before any auras could be broken, every time. There's no answer for ignorance.
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By Shichishito 2022-01-03 22:21:08
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it's not necessarily ignorance, i think it's more the sloppy implementation of the auto-translate feature combined with the countless exceptions to the rules of FFXI.

i vaguely remember doing ambu with a JP group and they wanted me to reset my ability timers.
i think he used the phrase "{Cure] {Job Ability}" or variations of it. i just returned from a long break and i didn't know or couldn't remember that you can reset job ability cooldowns by job changing. however i did remember that you can't reset 2hour cooldowns just by changing jobs, that required a revitaliser in abyssea, so i figured it wouldn't work with regular abilities either.
i'm sure dude was convinced i'm dense AF but with the infos i had "cure job ability" simply didn't add up for me.

imho the auto-translate is too limited. if a word or a phrase is missing it becomes a slow search and guessing game in hopes your imrpovisation doesn't get lost in translation. as soon as something needs more context or a explanation, which most of FFXIs content does, the auto-translate becomes futile.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2022-01-03 22:27:38
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Well short of an actual translation system where your typed sentence comes out in another language there's always going to be issues.
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By Shichishito 2022-01-03 22:45:06
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true, but if you decide against region servers like almost every other multiplayer game does then you better have a damn good translation tool.
the absence of TP, damage and cooldown is a pretty strong indication that they never really tried.
it's not just that it wasn't perfect from the get go, i think in those 20 years it never got any major improvements or updates to the dictionary, they only added new item names.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2022-01-03 22:52:14
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Yeah. Well there was (is) really no incentive for them to care enough to bother. Many a thing they should've / could've done better.
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