Pet DT

From SMN gear guide thread


Wouldn't that also be true and change a lot for DRG, BST, GEO and maybe PUP?

Wyvern has:
- -40% native DT

Jug pets have:
- Various native SDT(?) against various things
- Stout Servant -9%DT

Luopan has:
- -50% native DT

Automaton has:
- various -DT on frames/heads
- Stout Servant -9%DT
- -PDT attachments

Well I just did some quick testing on drg against 1000 needles
(2 targets so 500 damage base)

40 native + 25 from neck = 175 damage observed
40 native + 25 from neck + 8 gleti hands = 136 damage observed
40 native + 25 from neck + 8 gleti hands + 3 enmerkar earring = 123 damage observed

the expected amounts if I assume pet dt gear is separate multipliers is
500*(1-.4)(1-.25) = 225
500*(1-.4)(1-.33) = 201
500*(1-.4)(1-.36) = 192

this is pretty far off

If instead I assume dt adds
500*(1-.4-.25) = 175
500*(1-.4-.33) = 135
500*(1-.4-.36) = 120

dt for wyverns stacking is much close to observed values small errors most likely due to dt values actually being out of 256 and 3% and 8% are probably actually 7/256 and 20/256 which would produce the observed values.

I can check out more jobs tomorrow.

All the past testing w/ beastmaster showed that it was additive, not multiplicative.
I never tested summoner though.

What was additive tho? Gear + Stout? I think Papesse is saying that gear and Stout are additive, but both after being added are multiplicative with native DT on Avatar. For BST it's kinda more complecated, because I'm not sure if specific - special damage taken some pets have (like Arthur's -50% DT against blunt/water and -30% against slashing) are the same mechanic as avatar native DT.

not sure where to test this.

what mobs do static damage w/ piercing, slashing or blunt damage?

I don't recall if 1000 needles is actually considered piercing.

ok so I went on smn this time 3 targets in range
observed values
no additional dt = 156
hike khat 5%+ tali'ah seraweels 5%+ ambu cape 10% = 123
hike khat 5%+ tali'ah seraweels 5%+ ambu cape 10% + Enmerkar 3% + Handler's+1 4% = 113

It is very clear that for smn the dt and stout servant multiply and don't add.
333*(1-.5)(1-16/256) = 156
333*(1-.5-16/256) = 145

so then the question is does gear add to one of those terms or is it a 3rd term.
333(1-.5-.2)(1-16/256) = 93.7
333(1-.5)(1-16/256-.2) = 122.8
333(1-.5)(1-16/256)(1-.2) = 124.9
observed 123
I think we can discount possibility of gear adding with the 50 pdt moving forward
333(1-.5)(1-16/256-.27) = 111.1
333(1-.5)(1-16/256)(1-.27) = 113.9
observed 113

clearly to actually figure out if stout servant adds with dt or not I'm going to have to work out the exact dt values out of 256 for each item but I gotta go do ody now so that will be later.