Killer Effects

how do they work?pls correct me if i get this wrong but as i understand it players only get the intimidation rate from killer effects so its pointless to go for it unless you are tanking? only monsters get the 50% of the killer effect value as -damage taken/dealt. the only exceptions beeing founder's breastplate and ferine gausape/nukumi gausape which also unlock the damage taken/dealt bonus for players.

my confusion comes from circle effects:cause according to their description you do get a damage taken/dealt bonus and not just 50% but apparently equal to the killer effect value?

lets assume you pop a garlic cracker +1(12%) and you receive holy circle either from sub job(5%) or a main pld(15%) in party. do you receive a damage taken/dealt bonus of equal to the total undead killer effect value(17$-27&) or just 5%-15% from holy circle?

does the damage taken bonus exceed the 50% cap? does Assimilator's Keffiyeh bonus to monster correlation effects change anything regarding killer effects?

Kiler effects w/o founders or BST Gausape is just an intimidation rate against a monster attacking you.


I don't believe it affects circles, but I'm going to just say I don't have anything to back that up.

Damage Taken is a separate term for both circles and KI bonuses from founders/Gausape.
Damage Taken (BG Wiki)

did some testing:looks like undead killer value has no effect on the damage bonus granted by holy circle, at least not from /PLD sub.
lame...