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By Garuda.Chanti 2019-03-23 21:19:48
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Odin.Slore said: »
Chanti: seriously..it's over. No collusion, no further indictments recommended, no further charges....

Sounds over to me.

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Or the Southern district of New York.

Did you think the Mueller investigation is the only ongoing investigation into Trump?
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By Garuda.Chanti 2019-03-23 21:21:43
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That was supposed to be the Bender laughing at Leela one.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2019-03-23 21:45:29
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Did you think the Mueller investigation is the only ongoing investigation into Trump?

Lol. Mueller's investigation was the only one that would get Trump impeached. The rest is sour grapes.
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By Viciouss 2019-03-23 22:15:45
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lol, you really believe that huh?
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2019-03-24 00:44:23
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lol, you really believe that huh?

What exactly do you believe, Vic? That Pencil Neck Schiff and some New York judges are going to get Trump impeached after the biggest nothingburger investigation in history failed to even come close?

You guys have been laughing at us for years over the whole Mueller thing, and guess who came out the winners on that one? So go ahead, you tell me what's the more ridiculous outcome to believe.
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By Eboneezer 2019-03-24 06:25:19
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I wonder if they'll make it into a movie. Would probably be pretty boring except for the scene with the strippers peeing on the bed.
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By Nausi 2019-03-24 06:50:35
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Viciouss said: »
lol, you really believe that huh?

What exactly do you believe, Vic? That Pencil Neck Schiff and some New York judges are going to get Trump impeached after the biggest nothingburger investigation in history failed to even come close?

You guys have been laughing at us for years over the whole Mueller thing, and guess who came out the winners on that one? So go ahead, you tell me what's the more ridiculous outcome to believe.
What does he believe? He believes “Orange Man Bad” and whatever is needed to take him out is justified. Playing by the rules or upholding the legal principles that founded the country are expendable.
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By Nausi 2019-03-24 06:58:08
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Impeachment is a political event. They can impeach him because they don’t like him. They will simply make up whatever crime or misdemeanor they want and pull him out. The only thing that stops them is:

A) they don’t have the votes as trump gained seats in the senate.

And B) Trump despite all their efforts is still extremely popular.

Thats what the mueller investigation was for, to bring down his approval numbers, but it didn’t work as intended, and furthermore they came up empty. It’ll be hard to talk rational people back onto that ledge as the president has been saying for years now that its a witch hunt and has now been vindicated. Only irrational and hateful people will continue to cry foul.
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By Viciouss 2019-03-24 08:13:09
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Bring down his approval numbers? Lol, he hasn't needed any help with that one, as his approval numbers have been underwater by double digits for 99% of his Presidency. "Extremely popular," that was cute.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2019-03-24 08:27:42
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99%? More like 60-70%. That being said, the mere fact that he's been at an aggregate 40-44% approval in spite of having a sham investigation shadowing him at every turn is pretty dang impressive.

I for one am very interested in seeing how those numbers shift over the next week or two.
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By fonewear 2019-03-24 08:41:10
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Eboneezer said: »
I wonder if they'll make it into a movie. Would probably be pretty boring except for the scene with the strippers peeing on the bed.

The strippers could pee on the report I'd watch.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2019-03-24 09:03:06
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
nothingburger investigation

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The full list of Mueller indictments and plea deals

1) George Papadopoulos, former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser, was arrested in July 2017 and pleaded guilty in October 2017 to making false statements to the FBI. He got a 14-day sentence.

2) Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chair, was indicted on a total of 25 different counts by Mueller’s team, related mainly to his past work for Ukrainian politicians and his finances. He had two trials scheduled, and the first ended in a conviction on eight counts of financial crimes. To avert the second trial, Manafort struck a plea deal with Mueller in September 2018 (though Mueller’s team said in November that he breached that agreement by lying to them). He was sentenced to a combined seven and a half years in prison.

3) Rick Gates, a former Trump campaign aide and Manafort’s longtime junior business partner, was indicted on similar charges to Manafort. But in February 2018 he agreed to a plea deal with Mueller’s team, pleading guilty to just one false statements charge and one conspiracy charge.

4) Michael Flynn, Trump’s former national security adviser, pleaded guilty in December 2017 to making false statements to the FBI.

5-20) 13 Russian nationals and three Russian companies were indicted on conspiracy charges, with some also being accused of identity theft. The charges related to a Russian propaganda effort designed to interfere with the 2016 campaign. The companies involved are the Internet Research Agency, often described as a “Russian troll farm,” and two other companies that helped finance it. The Russian nationals indicted include 12 of the agency’s employees and its alleged financier, Yevgeny Prigozhin.

21) Richard Pinedo: This California man pleaded guilty to an identity theft charge in connection with the Russian indictments, and has agreed to cooperate with Mueller. He was sentenced to 6 months in prison and 6 months of home detention in October 2018.

22) Alex van der Zwaan: This London lawyer pleaded guilty to making false statements to the FBI about his contacts with Rick Gates and another unnamed person based in Ukraine. He was sentenced to 30 days in jail and has completed his sentence.

23) Konstantin Kilimnik: This longtime business associate of Manafort and Gates, who’s currently based in Russia, was charged alongside Manafort with attempting to obstruct justice by tampering with witnesses in Manafort’s pending case last year.

24-35) 12 Russian GRU officers: These officers of Russia’s military intelligence service were charged with crimes related to the hacking and leaking of leading Democrats’ emails in 2016.

36) Michael Cohen: In August 2018, Trump’s former lawyer pleaded guilty to 8 counts — tax and bank charges, related to his finances and taxi business, and campaign finance violations — related to hush money payments to women who alleged affairs with Donald Trump, as part of a separate investigation in New York (that Mueller had handed off). But in November, he made a plea deal with Mueller too, for lying to Congress about efforts to build a Trump Tower in Moscow.

37) Roger Stone: In January 2019, Mueller indicted longtime Trump adviser Roger Stone on 7 counts. He accused Stone of lying to the House Intelligence Committee about his efforts to get in touch with WikiLeaks during the campaign, and tampering with a witness who could have debunked his story.

Finally, there is one other person Mueller initially investigated, but handed over to others in the Justice Department to charge: Sam Patten. This Republican operative and lobbyist pleaded guilty to not registering as a foreign agent with his work for Ukrainian political bigwigs, and agreed to cooperate with the government.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2019-03-24 09:04:15
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Like I said, nothingburger investigation.
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By fonewear 2019-03-24 09:54:10
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More important baseball opening day is soon. Far more important than some report.
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By Asura.Saevel 2019-03-24 09:58:52
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Like I said, nothingburger investigation.

Yep nothing about President Trump himself. It's like I said months ago, if anything at all detrimental was found the Democrat lawyers on the team would of leaked it already. The entire thing was a political attack on Trump and his supporters and it failed. No major damage to the President and lots of blowback to the Democrats.
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By Viciouss 2019-03-24 10:15:55
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lol, not seeing any blowback on the Dems, they got voted in to investigate every last scandal Trump has created/lied about/hidden and stop his very thin agenda and they are doing both.
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By Viciouss 2019-03-24 10:16:36
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fonewear said: »
More important baseball opening day is soon. Far more important than some report.

Technically we already had two games that counted, but uh, nobody cares about those teams. Cubs open up on Thursday!
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By Garuda.Chanti 2019-03-24 12:08:22
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Seems like everyone wants to see the full report.

Confident Republicans 'absolutely' want to see full Mueller report


Democrats are ‘absolutely’ willing to go to the Supreme Court if full Mueller report is not released, Nadler says


Trump Backs Public Release Of Mueller Report
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2019-03-24 13:50:10
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lol, not seeing any blowback on the Dems

Yeah, well, you never do. I'm not surprised that now is any different for you.
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By Viciouss 2019-03-24 14:07:08
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Probably because there actually isn't any. It wasn't a Dem investigation, nor was it a "sham.'
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By Nausi 2019-03-24 14:49:07
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Bring down his approval numbers? Lol, he hasn't needed any help with that one, as his approval numbers have been underwater by double digits for 99% of his Presidency. "Extremely popular," that was cute.
Vic is actually stating here that 2 years of “muh Russia” has not affected his approval rating in the slightest.

I know the reasons to ignore Vic’s statements is a long and lengthy list, but you can just add this ridiculousness to it.
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By Nausi 2019-03-24 14:52:46
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lol, not seeing any blowback on the Dems, they got voted in to investigate every last scandal Trump has created/lied about/hidden and stop his very thin agenda and they are doing both.
Except there are no scandals, and his agenda is moving forward despite their efforts.
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By fonewear 2019-03-24 14:54:06
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BREAKING: “The Special Counsel’s investigation did not find that the Trump campaign or anyone associated with it conspired or coordinated with Russia in its efforts to influence the 2016 US presidential election,” AG William Barr’s letter to Congress says
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By Nausi 2019-03-24 14:54:24
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Of course it was a sham. There was no collusion.

None
Zero
Nada
Zip
Goose egg.
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By Nausi 2019-03-24 14:57:02
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Lefties are going to hit all five stages of remorse/regret on this thing.

Barr’s statement will surely grind-shift everyone into denial.
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By fonewear 2019-03-24 14:58:55
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No collusion everyone on mainstream media:

But but but....Trump...bad....Russia....bad... ! Can not compute !
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By Nausi 2019-03-24 15:02:33
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>if “muh russia” = <true> then #orangemanbad
>if “muh russia” = <false> then #russiansgottomueller
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By fonewear 2019-03-24 15:03:14
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Barr read the report but everyone is bitching

We need the full report. Like you reading it will make the conclusion different.
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By Nausi 2019-03-24 15:03:32
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No sealed secret indictments either.

Bad day for libs
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By Nausi 2019-03-24 15:06:34
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Manaforts entanglement was never of any substance. The FBI had already looked into his non campaign/collusion behavior and decided it wasnt worth buildingba case against prior to 2016. Its only when this witch hunt was unleashed that it became worthy of pursuing.

That alone tells everyone out there that the end goal wasnt justice.
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