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Yeah, I get that, but at that price you should expect nothing less than a well-rounded beast of a workstation. It's not like the lost clock speed really makes that much difference in FFXI or any games, in the end. XI is limited to 30 (or a kludgy 60) fps and doesn't scale well even with single-core performance. Modern games are GPU-limited at 4K even with a 2080 Ti and the 2nd 2080 Ti is totally devalued since almost no games today support SLI.

Any of knowledgeable PC gamer could build a better rig for a quarter of that price. In the end, the most true post:

To be fair, the 9900k is top of the heap for per-core performance. It was literally billed as the ultimate gaming CPU when it was released, and technically, Intel wasn't wrong. Necessary? Heck no. But, it's the best thing available for that application.

Simply a matter of disposable income. Just 'cause you or I wouldn't go that route doesn't mean it's wrong for someone else.

Thanks to those of you who can remain civil even when you disagree with my choices.

I swear, some people act like I'm spending their money.

Funny you mention that, because, you are.

When you pay more for something than it's worth, you tell that retailer that other people might too, and it's ok to raise the price.

i think its just the misconception that someone who can afford to spend that type of money would be smart enough to make sure he gets what he wants, the best of the best for the purpose.

if you don't have the time or the knowledge to build one yourself you can always hire a specialist. tbh i'm surprised that there even are prebuilds in that price category.

It's not going to be used for one thing.

I'd think the options should hint at that.

Odd as the #s don't seem to add up. It's wrong for anyone to obscenely waste money, but hey who said there's anything wrong with being wrong? :D

Wait so now you DO understand somebody can make more money than yuo?
https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/53294/people-hiking-up-prices-on-ah/3/#3408704

It's really a pretty logical choice for the build. For one, it's not actually super expensive CPU in the grand scheme of things. About a $530 part at retail, so say $200 more than what a typical enthusiast build might use.
The logic of not needing a high end CPU for gaming stems more from more typically being GPU or display limited. If you look at tests designed around placing the bottleneck on the CPU (for example), there can be a fairly large gap between the higher end and mid/low end (or simply older) parts. One you won't see if your GPU is struggling to hit 60fps anyway, or if you're on a 60hz panel.

Setting aside the logic/etc of a GTX 2080TI SLI setup, 144hz 4K and all that, if you are putting that together, it's going to end up CPU limited more often than nearly any other graphics setup available today. So why not spend the extra $200 on getting the most out of it? It's an appropriate choice in this instance. For a more typical build on a budget, you'd be right, better to put that $200 towards the next tier GPU or something.

To me this is like saying "I'd rather wait for the sweet Ferrari coming out soon than get that Lambo, so I'll just buy this Ford Taurus until the Ferrari comes out."

The gulf between TN/VA and IPS is massive compared to the difference between IPS and OLED. I won't even look at TN/VA panels when I'm shopping for a monitor. Looking an IPS, I know it's just a grid of lights on a board, but my brain sees a window into my game. Looking at a TN/VA, my brain just sees a light board.

This is definitely not true. At least 90% of the games I've played utilized it with minimal to no effort. Usually it just involved running nvidiaInspector and applying the default profile from there. At worst, some forum research and experimentation revealed the correct SLI bits to set. GeForce Experience might even do it for you, but ever since they went full-stupid with requiring a social account to even use it, I've said no thanks and refuse to install it.

That said, I probably won't be going SLI with my next build because it does require extra effort that I personally don't see a lot of benefit from (I run 1440p not 4k, so one GPU tends to be plenty), but it's flat out incorrect to say almost no games support it.

anyone who is butthurt is just salty (most likely cus they are the actual dumb ones cus they will never have this amount of money saved up). I personally find building a pc fun so i would never buy one but to each their own. Origin does have a quite a bit of mark up on their systems compare to other system builders but their is no denying their system have good build quality plus unique cosmetics. Overall you should be really happy with the system.

... what? First of all, it's a huge mistake to lump TN and VA panels together. TN is poor contrast and color volume, sure, and the "sell" of TN-based displays is 240Hz gaming, where the other panel types are too slow. Second, traditionally IPS had an edge in color accuracy and gamut. Modern VA panels have matched IPS in both areas, and provide FAR superior contrast ratios, with no IPS glow. Every high-end LCD TV is VA-based in 2018 and 2019 for a reason. The only advantage IPS has is a small pixel response time difference, and wider viewing angles, but no one cares about viewing angles on a single-user device like a PC monitor.

Having come from a pro-grade IPS monitor to a VA-based GSYNC one, I will never buy another IPS monitor again. There's still a ways to go before PC monitors match TVs in image quality but VA comes far closer. IPS delivers washed-out dark scenes every time. And that's not even mentioning OLED. Having an OLED TV in my living room, it's worlds better than any PC monitor. Perfect contrast, near-instant pixel transitions, per-pixel HDR highlight accuracy... it blows the doors off of any LCD TV, let alone any 1000:1 CR PC monitor.


It is true. Most recent games barely scale with the 2nd GPU. It's not worth an extra +$1200-1400 for a 2nd 2080 Ti for 20% scaling. I ran an SLI setup 4 years ago (dual 970s). Even then it was not great and I ended up going with a single 980 Ti instead. Multi-GPU frametimes are worse by the nature of the technology and increasingly devs do not code for SLI so either you get minimal scaling or even a performance penalty.