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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-06-07 01:31:58
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Edit to reflect the title change:

Antican Ambuscade, 5/17 6/18 1/20

Widely used strat was BLMs. Sch immanence cactus, burst with fire then kill the antica.

Cactus dies in... 2-3 nukes (fire 5/6 bursts) 140k

But has changed to melee strats, build tp on boss and ws cactus, then kill boss. (corsairs)

The old thread
https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/50855/ambuscade-volume-1-may-2017/

Bg strat
https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Ambuscade_Archive#Antica
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-06-07 01:34:48
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2BLM, GEO, SCH, Tank: 5min clear on VD.

Very stress free way of doing it.
 
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-06-07 01:48:37
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COR 3rdBLM 2ndSCH it really didn't matter, it was crazy easy.

Don't even use the GEO for the Cactus. Just Fusion, nuke nuke nuke dead.

Only good way to get KI Proto-Attuner to QSC
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By Asura.Sechs 2018-06-07 01:50:43
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The only difference I can think of is that now both the NM and the cactuar are gonna have a shitton more HP, given the differences in how Ambuscade works nowadays compared to when this fight appeared the first time.

As such, I'm not sure the BLM strat is gonna be still viable.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-06-07 01:53:04
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It'll be slower, thats for sure. Should still be fine, just 2 Fusions instead of one.

10,000 needles on 7 targets blms w/ manawall npnp
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By Foxfire 2018-06-07 02:00:20
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I tried the leg sweep strat for fun, the big bad wasn't havin' it
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By Davorin 2018-06-07 02:00:30
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https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/50855/ambuscade-volume-1-may-2017/
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By clearlyamule 2018-06-07 02:02:28
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One fun thing was to throw autos after it. They could still hit it some as it ran somewhat
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By Asura.Sechs 2018-06-07 02:06:43
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
It'll be slower, thats for sure. Should still be fine, just 2 Fusions instead of one.

10,000 needles on 7 targets blms w/ manawall npnp
Slower = more chances for 10k Needles to go off for starters, and harder to deal with adds when you get to the main boss.

If you don't kill the megaboss in time the Cactuar will repop. Happened a few times on bad PUGs I was with.
More Health => more chances for Cactuar to repop.


Pair these two things together and it will make for much longer fights with PUGs, using that strat at least.
I think it's gonna be better to pull the Antica to a corner with a DD setup, everybody stick together and eat the 10k needles (if it happens), which will be ~1400 damage with 6 players and a Luopan.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-06-07 02:08:46
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I had never seen the Cactus respawn @_@!

Not even in garbage tier groups where I was the only decent nuker with no GEO.

That could change things.
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By Asura.Sechs 2018-06-07 02:11:00
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
I had never seen the Cactus respawn @_@!
If you're slow enough it happens.
Guess you had to be VERY slow lol, but still, more chances for that to happen with the new much higher HP values of stuff.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-06-07 02:15:13
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False Alarm;

Default to the conduit strat!

Probably do D with melee instead for shouts, 4k needles is easy enough to just ignore.
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By Ruaumoko 2018-06-07 02:50:26
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Melees work as well.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-06-07 02:51:58
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Yeah, about that, I'd rather not have everyone immediately shout for 2 blus run geo whm brd to mimic a video.

Any DD works, but show the morons a video and it's instant GG *** every other job.
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By Ruaumoko 2018-06-07 02:57:15
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Yeah, about that, I'd rather not have everyone immediately shout for 2 blus run geo whm brd to mimic a video.

Any DD works, but show the morons a video and it's instant GG *** every other job.
Okay... Okay...

I'll record another video showing a more 'diverse' setup then.


Sod it, this again? I only show people the strategy, one of a few this month from the sounds of it. What people do with the information is completely out of my hands. If people want to use a certain strategy then it's not my fault if people are left out as a result, if anything that's on them for not having options available.
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By Foxfire 2018-06-07 04:46:58
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i don't see why not; it just makes things far easier on the tank/healer in terms of dealing with the boss/adds
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By Ruaumoko 2018-06-07 05:44:55
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Your issue is going to be getting hate on each new wave of adds.

RUN has a lot of high enmity JAs and has Foil if all else fails. PLD doesn't quite have those options, but I seem to recall it can.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-06-07 06:08:00
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They can both sub blu, eliminates all differences

Kinggalka already conduit burning it. well at least I'll get to buy the wins cheap this month instead of bothering.
 
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk 2018-06-07 10:20:32
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I used to do this fight full pet party. pup tank, 2x bst for fast add kills, though 1x bst can do it.

Smn or pups to chase down cactuar.

cor/geo for buffs to make it go faster.

sure, sch prolly kill cactuar faster
This should be an easy month to get lots of gil :D

bst actually can kill cactuar pretty well just by waiting for it to run accross nm path, and using Tegmina Buffet.

Oh, and if 10k needles actually goes off, you have almost 2x the number of bodies to spread out the damage.

Maybe if i can get in a burst party, I'll try bursting molting plumage :P
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By Bahamut.Tychefm 2018-06-07 13:32:43
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P.S. Proto Waypoint to Quicksand is the way to go. If your lazy ppl dont have it make them use the HP and stand under the hole in XP range.
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By Ragnarok.Lockfort 2018-06-07 13:37:52
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In case anyone is curious: yes, yes conduit zerg is viable.

I tried BLM setup, but compared to before, the cactuar needs 3 volleys to finish off. At this point, the boss will have 2 sets of adds up. And that's not the worst part. With the HP increase, it takes far more strategems/time to kill him with just SC/MB now.

Is BLM set viable? Oh yes, I just tried it. But it will be pretty slow, and BLM that aren't well geared will make it drag out even more.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2018-06-07 13:54:02
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I did one VD run last month that was un-sealed. I'll probably do zero this month as well.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-06-07 14:06:24
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
I did one VD run last month that was un-sealed. I'll probably do zero this month as well.

Why

I didn't do a single VD last month, still got 700k marks just half assing N and afkpupping D

You dont have to do VD. VD is for try-hards.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk 2018-06-07 15:32:54
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If its as easy as I remember, I don't know that conduit burning is very practical. takes too long to reset astral conduit.

then again last time was before the hallmark boost and mob hp boost, no?
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By Shiva.Larrymc 2018-06-07 15:59:48
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
I didn't do a single VD last month, still got 700k marks just half assing N and afkpupping D

Assuming 6 seals per month - and using those seals on D - thats 43200 hallmarks.
For the remaining 656400 hallmarks - at 1200 per run on Normal, that is 547 runs.

Thats alot of ambuscade.
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