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By Odin.Drakenv 2018-02-20 16:21:21
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Candlejack said: »
Odin.Drakenv said: »
Asura.Darian said: »
Odin.Drakenv said: »
Phoenix.Erics said: »
Leviathan.Celebrindal said: »
The only truth here is that if ranking isn't coming back, let's just remove it from the profiles so we don't get this topic every 4 days.
I disagree, i think we should add a second rank to our FFXIAH profiles that keeps track of how many internet fights we win(or lose) here.
Lol

Too subjective.
Too emo you can’t handle an aby zone lol
He's so emo, he can't change a lightbulb, so he just sits in the dark and cries.
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By Leviathan.Cashymoneygal 2018-02-23 10:40:47
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I love all the new on topic suggestions and i'm not going to name any certain names who want to highlight "no one cares" from their posts. If that were the case they'd not replied and tried to insinuate *** =) But then again to have to show cleavage on a pic to get attention already speaks thousands of words =) So no hoe's opinion really matters =) Enjoy that "childish" remark. THis post can be closed whenever before more emos come to reply =) Snowflake galore already taking over ffxi more than elitists :D take the game away :D what is left bitter old virgins who can only go back to watching their porn.

Life lesson =) beauty fades ladies and that beer belly will eventually pop out for the gentleman. Dumb is forever. Dully take note of it.
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By Asura.Dagget 2018-02-23 10:58:23
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Can some one please fix this site, as we've seen here, a broken site promotes hostile discussions and immature attitudes even more so than regular. Simple really.
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By Odin.Drakenv 2018-02-23 11:27:42
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Leviathan.Cashymoneygal said: »
I love all the new on topic suggestions and i'm not going to name any certain names who want to highlight "no one cares" from their posts. If that were the case they'd not replied and tried to insinuate *** =) But then again to have to show cleavage on a pic to get attention already speaks thousands of words =) So no hoe's opinion really matters =) Enjoy that "childish" remark. THis post can be closed whenever before more emos come to reply =) Snowflake galore already taking over ffxi more than elitists :D take the game away :D what is left bitter old virgins who can only go back to watching their porn.

Life lesson =) beauty fades ladies and that beer belly will eventually pop out for the gentleman. Dumb is forever. Dully take note of it.
Well technically isn’t this response emo and poor me QQ tears? Someone get this kid a blankey his epeen is getting smaller.
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By Odin.Drakenv 2018-02-23 11:27:53
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By Odin.Drakenv 2018-02-23 11:29:39
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Leviathan.Celebrindal said: »
The only truth here is that if ranking isn't coming back, let's just remove it from the profiles so we don't get this topic every 4 days. We'll get "where did my rank go?" instead for the next 3 months, but it'll pass.
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By Odin.Drakenv 2018-02-23 11:30:03
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geigei said: »
Not to mention curent rank system only tells how much money\time you pour into your character. It haz very little to do with skill.
Another valid point
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By Odin.Drakenv 2018-02-23 11:31:16
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Phoenix.Erics said: »
Leviathan.Celebrindal said: »
The only truth here is that if ranking isn't coming back, let's just remove it from the profiles so we don't get this topic every 4 days.
I disagree, i think we should add a second rank to our FFXIAH profiles that keeps track of how many internet fights we win(or lose) here.
Can we have rounds too?
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By Leviathan.Celebrindal 2018-02-23 11:48:16
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Odin.Drakenv said: »
Phoenix.Erics said: »
Leviathan.Celebrindal said: »
The only truth here is that if ranking isn't coming back, let's just remove it from the profiles so we don't get this topic every 4 days.
I disagree, i think we should add a second rank to our FFXIAH profiles that keeps track of how many internet fights we win(or lose) here.
Can we have rounds too?


With the ncaa tourney close, let's do a March Madness of emo ffxiah posters.
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By Odin.Drakenv 2018-02-23 11:50:26
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Leviathan.Celebrindal said: »
Odin.Drakenv said: »
Phoenix.Erics said: »
Leviathan.Celebrindal said: »
The only truth here is that if ranking isn't coming back, let's just remove it from the profiles so we don't get this topic every 4 days.
I disagree, i think we should add a second rank to our FFXIAH profiles that keeps track of how many internet fights we win(or lose) here.
Can we have rounds too?


With the ncaa tourney close, let's do a March Madness of emo ffxiah posters.
Genius.. we can have custom sprays
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By Rooks 2018-02-23 20:14:27
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GW is up again. Our hosting provider has had a rolling set of reboots to apply patches for Spectre and Meltdown, and any time one piece falls over, they all do.
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By Odin.Drakenv 2018-02-23 20:15:17
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Rooks said: »
GW is up again. Our hosting provider has had a rolling set of reboots to apply patches for Spectre and Meltdown, and any time one piece falls over, they all do.
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By Felgarr 2018-02-23 20:16:25
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Asura.Alfylicious said: »
Leviathan.Celebrindal said: »
speaking of which- we had a topic a few months ago on "how to beat FFXI", what was never mentioned was getting capped vorseals across all categories. Considering how they were designed to be rewards for different game content, what better estimation of how much of the game you've completed compared to your vorseal count?

I think to truly capture it all would encompass:

Titles(Covers almost everything)
RoEs (Covers some content, levels and fame)
Key Items (Including mounts/maps/abysscite etc.)
Quests Completed
All skills capped / magic learned (Including trusts.)
Crafts Capped

It's fun to map everything out. I do hope this site gets fixed at some point.

Don't hold your breath. I have messages and emails from Rooks over the past 2 years where he refuses to ask Scragg to give me access to the code to help fix these features. I've offered my time and support about a half-dozen times for free and I can't even get a reply from Scraggs. Rooks won't ask him on my behalf either.

The only way anything is getting fixed is if Rooks does it himself ...and at this rate, none of his solutions appear to be permanent fixes.

Edit: It's their prerogative to decide gets access to the code and if Rooks even wants outside help. However, as a result, the user experience continues to suffer...and that makes me really upset.
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By Asura.Chiaia 2018-02-23 20:17:19
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Rooks said: »
GW is up again. Our hosting provider has had a rolling set of reboots to apply patches for Spectre and Meltdown, and any time one piece falls over, they all do.
Does that mean AH will be getting data again from it or is the AH problem separate due to the https change?
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By Odin.Drakenv 2018-02-23 20:17:35
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Felgarr said: »
Asura.Alfylicious said: »
Leviathan.Celebrindal said: »
speaking of which- we had a topic a few months ago on "how to beat FFXI", what was never mentioned was getting capped vorseals across all categories. Considering how they were designed to be rewards for different game content, what better estimation of how much of the game you've completed compared to your vorseal count?

I think to truly capture it all would encompass:

Titles(Covers almost everything)
RoEs (Covers some content, levels and fame)
Key Items (Including mounts/maps/abysscite etc.)
Quests Completed
All skills capped / magic learned (Including trusts.)
Crafts Capped

It's fun to map everything out. I do hope this site gets fixed at some point.

Don't hold your breath. I have messages and emails from Rooks over the past 2 years where he refuses to ask Scragg to give me access to the code to help fix these features. I've offered my time and support about a half-dozen times and I can't even get a reply from Scraggs. Rooks won't ask him on my behalf either.

The only way anything is getting fixed is if Rooks does it himself ...and at this rate, none of his solutions appear to be permanent fixes.
Boy did you just post too late.
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By Felgarr 2018-02-23 20:23:17
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Odin.Drakenv said: »
Felgarr said: »
Asura.Alfylicious said: »
Leviathan.Celebrindal said: »
speaking of which- we had a topic a few months ago on "how to beat FFXI", what was never mentioned was getting capped vorseals across all categories. Considering how they were designed to be rewards for different game content, what better estimation of how much of the game you've completed compared to your vorseal count?

I think to truly capture it all would encompass:

Titles(Covers almost everything)
RoEs (Covers some content, levels and fame)
Key Items (Including mounts/maps/abysscite etc.)
Quests Completed
All skills capped / magic learned (Including trusts.)
Crafts Capped

It's fun to map everything out. I do hope this site gets fixed at some point.

Don't hold your breath. I have messages and emails from Rooks over the past 2 years where he refuses to ask Scragg to give me access to the code to help fix these features. I've offered my time and support about a half-dozen times and I can't even get a reply from Scraggs. Rooks won't ask him on my behalf either.

The only way anything is getting fixed is if Rooks does it himself ...and at this rate, none of his solutions appear to be permanent fixes.
Boy did you just post too late.

Draken,
A rolling restart due to spectre/meltdown patches is a band-aid, a semi-permanent solution. I would devote time to more permanent fixes like (a) removing the need to restart the damn thing every 2-3 months and (b) replacing guildwork with a new ashita/windower plugin that sends your character data from the FFXI client directly; (c) Fix the ability to upload screenshots.

The list goes on. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate what Rooks does, but it took 5 days from this posting to get a response from Rooks to restart a service? That's a long time in my opinion, and if there user experience were to improve, additional operational support is needed.
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By Odin.Drakenv 2018-02-23 20:28:15
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Felgarr said: »
Odin.Drakenv said: »
Felgarr said: »
Asura.Alfylicious said: »
Leviathan.Celebrindal said: »
speaking of which- we had a topic a few months ago on "how to beat FFXI", what was never mentioned was getting capped vorseals across all categories. Considering how they were designed to be rewards for different game content, what better estimation of how much of the game you've completed compared to your vorseal count?

I think to truly capture it all would encompass:

Titles(Covers almost everything)
RoEs (Covers some content, levels and fame)
Key Items (Including mounts/maps/abysscite etc.)
Quests Completed
All skills capped / magic learned (Including trusts.)
Crafts Capped

It's fun to map everything out. I do hope this site gets fixed at some point.

Don't hold your breath. I have messages and emails from Rooks over the past 2 years where he refuses to ask Scragg to give me access to the code to help fix these features. I've offered my time and support about a half-dozen times and I can't even get a reply from Scraggs. Rooks won't ask him on my behalf either.

The only way anything is getting fixed is if Rooks does it himself ...and at this rate, none of his solutions appear to be permanent fixes.
Boy did you just post too late.

Draken,
A rolling restart due to spectre/meltdown patches is a band-aid, a semi-permanent solution. I would devote time to more permanent fixes like (a) removing the need to restart the damn thing every 2-3 months and (b) replacing guildwork with a new ashita/windower plugin that sends your character data from the FFXI client directly; (c) Fix the ability to upload screenshots.

The list goes on. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate what Rooks does, but it took 5 days from this posting to get a response from Rooks to restart a service? That's a long time in my opinion, and if there user experience were to improve, additional operational support is needed.
If rooks wanted your help I assume he would have agreed. But putting him on the spot and whining about not getting access is low. If your brain can’t figure that out my point has been made.
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By Rooks 2018-02-23 20:37:11
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Asura.Chiaia said: »
Does that mean AH will be getting data again from it or is the AH problem separate due to the https change?

I actually am testing a fix for the AH connection, which is partly https and partly that AH and GW have LSCOM remnants hiding in the damnedest places

There's about five or six separate problems, and I didn't do the https change, so I don't know what that broke and what's just broken because of sunspots or yeti attacks or daylight savings time

Felgarr said: »
It's their prerogative to decide gets access to the code and if Rooks even wants outside help

You don't listen to a *** word I say

It's not "their" prerogative - it's Scragg's. Singular. I don't get a vote. I don't know how many times I have to say this, but this is like number twelve and at this point I assume it's just performance art on your part

Felgarr said: »
A rolling restart due to spectre/meltdown patches is a band-aid

Again, this is the hosting provider's doing, I find out about it the same time everyone else does. They reboot our ***all the time for various reasons, and GW doesn't recover from it the same way AH does. That's in part because AH is just a simpler setup, and in part because it was built a little more robustly in the first place.
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By Felgarr 2018-02-23 20:39:52
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Odin.Drakenv said: »
Felgarr said: »
Odin.Drakenv said: »
Felgarr said: »
Asura.Alfylicious said: »
Leviathan.Celebrindal said: »
speaking of which- we had a topic a few months ago on "how to beat FFXI", what was never mentioned was getting capped vorseals across all categories. Considering how they were designed to be rewards for different game content, what better estimation of how much of the game you've completed compared to your vorseal count?

I think to truly capture it all would encompass:

Titles(Covers almost everything)
RoEs (Covers some content, levels and fame)
Key Items (Including mounts/maps/abysscite etc.)
Quests Completed
All skills capped / magic learned (Including trusts.)
Crafts Capped

It's fun to map everything out. I do hope this site gets fixed at some point.

Don't hold your breath. I have messages and emails from Rooks over the past 2 years where he refuses to ask Scragg to give me access to the code to help fix these features. I've offered my time and support about a half-dozen times and I can't even get a reply from Scraggs. Rooks won't ask him on my behalf either.

The only way anything is getting fixed is if Rooks does it himself ...and at this rate, none of his solutions appear to be permanent fixes.
Boy did you just post too late.

Draken,
A rolling restart due to spectre/meltdown patches is a band-aid, a semi-permanent solution. I would devote time to more permanent fixes like (a) removing the need to restart the damn thing every 2-3 months and (b) replacing guildwork with a new ashita/windower plugin that sends your character data from the FFXI client directly; (c) Fix the ability to upload screenshots.

The list goes on. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate what Rooks does, but it took 5 days from this posting to get a response from Rooks to restart a service? That's a long time in my opinion, and if there user experience were to improve, additional operational support is needed.
If rooks wanted your help I assume he would have agreed. But putting him on the spot and whining about not getting access is low. If your brain can’t figure that out my point has been made.

You can attach any emotional entanglements to this situation that makes you feel justified. You're entitled to that.

You might not care but there are plenty of open-source, free software solutions that make manual intervention unnecessary. (Saltstack, Ansible, Chef, Puppet, a simple bash script...etc etc).

However, the fact of the matter is that the user experience is deteriorating and it doesn't have to. In 2018, we should be able to upload a screenshot or link a new character without contacting a software engineer or maintainer of the site and waiting for manual intervention.
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By Odin.Drakenv 2018-02-23 20:44:08
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Felgarr said: »
Odin.Drakenv said: »
Felgarr said: »
Odin.Drakenv said: »
Felgarr said: »
Asura.Alfylicious said: »
Leviathan.Celebrindal said: »
speaking of which- we had a topic a few months ago on "how to beat FFXI", what was never mentioned was getting capped vorseals across all categories. Considering how they were designed to be rewards for different game content, what better estimation of how much of the game you've completed compared to your vorseal count?

I think to truly capture it all would encompass:

Titles(Covers almost everything)
RoEs (Covers some content, levels and fame)
Key Items (Including mounts/maps/abysscite etc.)
Quests Completed
All skills capped / magic learned (Including trusts.)
Crafts Capped

It's fun to map everything out. I do hope this site gets fixed at some point.

Don't hold your breath. I have messages and emails from Rooks over the past 2 years where he refuses to ask Scragg to give me access to the code to help fix these features. I've offered my time and support about a half-dozen times and I can't even get a reply from Scraggs. Rooks won't ask him on my behalf either.

The only way anything is getting fixed is if Rooks does it himself ...and at this rate, none of his solutions appear to be permanent fixes.
Boy did you just post too late.

Draken,
A rolling restart due to spectre/meltdown patches is a band-aid, a semi-permanent solution. I would devote time to more permanent fixes like (a) removing the need to restart the damn thing every 2-3 months and (b) replacing guildwork with a new ashita/windower plugin that sends your character data from the FFXI client directly; (c) Fix the ability to upload screenshots.

The list goes on. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate what Rooks does, but it took 5 days from this posting to get a response from Rooks to restart a service? That's a long time in my opinion, and if there user experience were to improve, additional operational support is needed.
If rooks wanted your help I assume he would have agreed. But putting him on the spot and whining about not getting access is low. If your brain can’t figure that out my point has been made.

You can attach any emotional entanglements to this situation that makes you feel justified. You're entitled to that.

You might not care but there are plenty of open-source, free software solutions that make manual intervention unnecessary. (Saltstack, Ansible, Chef, Puppet, a simple bash script...etc etc).

However, the fact of the matter is that the user experience is deteriorating and it doesn't have to. In 2018, we should be able to upload a screenshot or link a new character without contacting a software engineer or maintainer of the site and waiting for manual intervention.
Emotional? You’re the moron whinnning about wanting access. Maybe you should listen to Rooks for the 13th time. But openly whining about not getting access what does it accomplish? Members are supposed to feel sorry for you for wanting to help and being denied? You remind of those dudes that don’t get a hint:”maybe they’re aren't into you.”
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By Anna Ruthven 2018-02-23 20:45:37
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To be blunt, the fact that Rooks got Admin, let alone repo and source access could be described as miraculous. It's pretty safe to say there most likely won't be anyone else getting Admin, source, or repo access. Scragg is very, VERY stingy with such things.

Rooks can't give source or repo. He isn't allowed to give Admin.

Please stop asking.
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By Anna Ruthven 2018-02-23 20:45:58
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Also, take the bickering to PMs.
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By Asura.Saevel 2018-02-23 20:47:26
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Thanks Rooks, we know your working your *** off on these things.
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By Felgarr 2018-02-23 20:49:39
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I'm not going to dignify Draken's comment with a response.

Rooks,
I appreciate the hardwork that you do and I sincerely hope, at some point that Scraggs is willing to give you a vote.

I understand your frustration and know that I come off as a little relentless, but this is the first time you've told me that you don't get a vote. All of our past conversations have resulted in "Ask Scraggs yourself" to which I get no reply from him. My goal here is not to upset anybody, but offer help and improve some of the features that folks have been asking for. (Also, Rooks, you seem very busy and shouldn't have to manually intervene for the smallest of technical issues). Just some food for thought. Best of luck.

Thanks again for the quick fix.
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By Rooks 2018-02-23 20:51:34
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Asura.Saevel said: »
Thanks Rooks, we know your working your *** off on these things.

I mean, I'm not, but it's not because I don't want to, I just have less than no time. I get where Felgarr is coming from.

Anyway, someone who is logged into game now, try flushing and see if you can update.
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By Asura.Chiaia 2018-02-23 20:54:09
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Rooks said: »
Anyway, someone who is logged into game now, try flushing and see if you can update.
works my newest weapon just showed up.
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By fillerbunny9 2018-02-23 20:57:26
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Asura.Chiaia said: »
Rooks said: »
Anyway, someone who is logged into game now, try flushing and see if you can update.
works my newest weapon just showed up.

can add a second verification myself, my recently completed Annihilator showed up as well.
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By Rooks 2018-02-23 21:00:04
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\o/

One down, thirtyish to go
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