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Just posting to see what drop rates are like for everyone for the h2h I'm currently 0/40 doing difficult runs with 6 people haven't even seen them drop yet. Now am I just having a bad streak or are they that rare to drop. I feel like I'd rather farm another d ring

Think you are having some bad luck... We went 2/4 last night on N, and probably seen 4 drop in the last dozen or so. Alternatively maybe I have just been lucky?

sad thing is I think I went maybe 1 for 10 give or take on easy an got the h2h to drop maybe I got lucky

Wow. Like I honestly can't believe them numbers. One of my ls mates said he went 1/30ish on normal solo before he got them. And as I said in doing difficult and haven't seen a set drop in almost 40 kills. But everything else is plentyfull

I know we got 2 in 1 run on hard after like 3 runs but we can't get a shield to save our life's probably 0/40+ on that.

I've done at least 13 solo on N today, no H2H or earring. Did get a shield and a body (not the first time I've seen either of those). Since update, I've done it probably another dozen times, mostly N but a few D mixed in there. No H2H, everything else has dropped.

Around 8 runs on (D) here, saw 2 shields, 1 earring and 1 H2H.
Anybody mathed out if Denouements are better than Chastisers btw?

I'm 0/20something on D runs, whereas evidently every other PUP in my LS is 1/1 on them.

Personally saw them drop 2/2 on Normal. Then after difficult they started to get rarer, and went 1/10 on Difficult.

I'd argue its more a luck streak than anything.

Pretty sure its just completely random. I went 1/2 on h2h soloing it on easy.

Strongly depends on target/buffs.

On lower end content, Chastisters are a little better but it's pretty close.

As you move into higher level mobs (SR, Escha T2+ NMs, high level UNM, etc.), things change a lot with the H2H hierarchy. Fleshcarvers become really, really good and are often the top choice, but Denouements hold up quite well and aren't too far behind. When acc is an issue, both easily beat Chastisers (and actually, even Glanzfaust). Hammerfists R15 B do pretty well also. And even with, say, Sushi, 1 Madrigal, and Torpor - Acc can be an issue for a MNK when Focus is down, or a PUP always.

If you're totally buffed to the moon on high end stuff, Chastisters and Glanzfaust go back to the top (though Denouements and Fleshcarvers remain good). But we're talking major buffs - something like 2x Mads, Bolstered Torpor AND Precision, Focus & Aggressor up, and capped magical haste.

A note on mythics: Kenkonken remains by far PUP's best DD weapon. The MA+50 and enhancement to PUP's best WS are major (as is the lengthy AM3 duration that also affects puppets). Glanzfaust, on the other hand, remains king on lower end stuff if you can maintain AM3, but without very heavy buffs falls off quite a bit in high level situations where you need lots of acc. Mythic AM3 OAx is also comparatively less valuable on H2H than other weapon types because it only procs on first hit (one "hand"). Not enough to devalue KKK for PUP because of the other benefits previously mentioned, but it's fairly significant for MNK.

To the people with these amazing drop rates login on my char and get them for me haha. Like I'm discouraged to even try to keep getting them

My alt (wife's old character) has convinced me characters just have a hidden innate luck stat. She's the luckiest Taru ever. Especially when it's a R/E item that I'd really want on my main - personal coffers and Sinister Reign (why oh why did I bring her in there to torment me) are excruciating for this reason!

[And before anyone goes crazy about RNG is random, confirmation bias, and "there's no such thing as luck stat"... Don't take it too seriously, I'm joking. I think.]

I did the BC around 30-40 times as THF on Easy going after the earring. The 1st drop I got was the H2h. The last one was the earring..

I think raising TH is more important than increasing the drop slots i these fights. That's why I usually slowed down on the 2nd part of the fight and went for more th procs.

Plus does anyone have any solid strat for omega he always gives the groups I make a lot of trouble and it seems like his stat debuffs kill my accuracy on monk and it blows.

Try subbing ninja.

Well that's common sense

It's not! The other day I was with a pt where we really struggled on D.
I did over 55% damage alone on SMN, and let me say that my SMN is nothing special.
Setup was:
PLD
THF
MNK
WHM
Idris GEO
SMN (me)

Nobody was /NIN and each of the 3 fights we did took ages with countless deaths and me saving the day and raising the WHM multiple times.
Of course I suggested everybody to go /NIN but everybody had their own different reasons for refusing to do so, sigh.

When Omega does Pile Pitch for 95% of your HP (mitigated by Pdt) along with hate reset, things can turn for the worse really fast. Omega has a high counter rate, so getting hit by Pile Pitch can lead to near instant death if he then counters a round of attacks. I basically died to my own attacks once. If uncertain, just turn for a second and let the party react in accordance. NIN sub is strongly recommended for this.

I never did the BC on D so Idk which moves they gain access to (perhaps Citatel Buster for Ultima?) but I usually fight Omega from behind after TA WSing on Gessho's trust then wrap things up with a few more WSs. The fight might be slowed down if he manages to put Discharger up. The shock spikes can hit hard on fast multi-attack DDs, and can lead to near permanent stun (unless they manage to turn as soon as the stun effect wears off).

Other than his Antimatter move, Ultima was easier than Omega. You may want to set up a DT macro for his breath attacks, which land various negative effects and can hit hard at high HP. Avoid facing him towards the support and healer for the same reason. They could get 1shot (at least trusts did).

Yeah it was the group I made

I don't think so Acey, I play on Asura, not Fenrir.
The group was made by a Mithra MNK, can't remember the name right now.
Was a really nice person with a positive attitude, but something in that setup was not working.
I don't think it was just a matter of people not having /NIN, there was something else amiss, altough the lack of shadows clearly didn't help either.

My name on asura is aceyyy I have a Mithra mnk. I sold my fenrir account awhile back

I've done the fight on N ~15 times or so I guess (dual box + trusts), and I've gotten the H2H once (and 2x earring, 1x helm/plate/shield). Haven't seen the neckpiece at all.

As with Dawn, on N at least, Attunement/Vex largely make it very easy. Only real thing is avoiding getting Pile Pitched in not-DT sets. Not sure how much that transfers to D or VD.

I feel like there is some hidden mechanic to drops on this fight or something because the rng troll is impossible to gauge. First night spamming it we went 7/10 on drops on easy difficulty using trusts and thf. Had everything but the Plate and Torque drop, went back a little later and got a 2nd Denouements drop solo.

For the following 2 or 3 days we have probably spammed it somewhere around 40x and only saw 2 torques.

The night where we had some weird amazing luck was during New moon on Lightsday, and we didn't change a thing since then.

My question though is does anyone know if one particular boss has specific drops where stacking TH would be more effective?

I've done this fight 30 times on Normal, give or take, and have not seen an Earring drop once. I saw terminal set drop within first 2 fights but nothing else. Every time I went I took THF, and got at LEAST TH9 every time and to no avail. I had to finally fork up the gil and pay someone else to get it for me since apparently SE didn't want it to drop for me.

http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/48851/cessance-earring-can-i-have-it-sell/1/#3110352

Do it on VD, with decent players you can easily low man it with trusts.

Which trusts do you use on VD? We tried a normal and they were dropped from 100% health to dead in one area attack, and we are all ilvl 119.

We were PLD THF WHM + Apururu, Koru-Moru, Selh'teus

Pld thf whm should be able to trio N without trusts. I did N on blu with august, selh'teus, king, apururu and qultada none of them would die during the whole fight though apart from hate resets I'd end up tanking early on on each of them.

I can solo N no problem on blue mage (even before I got my AG Almace) with trusts. August, Arciela I, Selh'teus, Apururu, and Joachim are typical. Stand on Omega's flank so you don't get countered, get him down to 50%, then toss a sudden lunge at him. That should buy you some time to get the rest of his HP down. He may get a Pile Pitch off, but again make sure you aren't in front of him. I have died when he got a pile pitch off and then countered me.

Ultima is easier if you stun-lock him. I wait until he does a TP move, then sudden lunge. I will get CDC off while he is stunned but be ready on the sudden lunge macro for when it wears as he will most likely begin another TP move. He does build resistance, but on N he doesn't last long enough for this to be an issue.

I used /thf as well and wore Chaac Belt and some TH Herc Boots for TH4. Eventually got the earring but I did not keep track of how many fights I had to do to get it.