Does Anyone Like Rangers In Their (delve) Parties?

It's got uses, it depends on your members.
RNG usually means 95% chance of win, but slow.

Marjami delve, and Kamhir delve. Ceizak delve too.

Couple high-tier fights. Gessho/Stellar/Celestial/AA/DM anything were you want to avoid the broken AoE damage.

Majority of dd jobs are niche job's, and rng is def one worth having. Gogogo!

what about celestial nexus, ouryu and ark taru?

Our shell always brings Rangers to Delve

I prefer a dd set up with Ouryu over rngs. Takes to long! AA's are usuallly done with rng's due to low risk of failing, although some swear by dd's /nin for them for faster kills.

Variety of ways to clear content.

We use Rangers for Ceizak, Kahmir, and Marj Ravine delve, as well as DM. The rest we use more melee based builds.

Yes, RNG actually became a heavily used bandwagon job starting around the time the first high tier battlefield fights (AAs/DM) were released and continuing into Delve 2.0.

That's both good and bad if you want to play RNG: good in the sense that people are very accepting of the job in the cookie cutter strategies that they follow (particularly for /shout groups), bad in the sense that there's a lot of competition and you'll be expected to have pretty good gear to be on par.

Some people will try to insist on relic gun RNG only and turn down those without it. Annihilator is definitely useful (mainly for the spectacular enmity mitigation of Coronach alongside strong damage), but by all means not required. I personally use a JSE gun and I'm able to hang in there with the relic RNGs (and I very frequently outparse the random relic holders who aren't that great at the job).

RNG does require a bit more technique than most DD jobs though. You have to get good at timing manual shots to maximize damage over time. You also have to know how to use your positioning and enmity abilities: decoy shot (need to be lined up behind the tank) is vital, camouflage is useful, and you should have a good sense of when you're riding the line of pulling hate. Enmity control became a LOT more important for Adoulin era RNG than it was for past FFXI times. All of this is made more dummy-proof with relic, which is kind of why some people insist on it. But a SMART non-relic RNG does fine in any content where RNG is useful.


Agreed with all of that, except I've never seen anyone use RNG on Gessho fight, instead I've always seen more NIN and THF heavy setups (not that a RNG strat couldn't work).

RNG is also viable for Incursion bosses, from what people have told me it's the common Japanese strategy (but not used too often in the typical non-JP groups I've seen).

melee rng/dnc with last stand or jr isnt that bad , need to figure out a trueflight set ... maybe its wortth it

RNG/DNC with JR "isn't bad" is fun as hell lol! But only where enmity doesn't matter aka: solo/Ceizak =/

My page has Trueflight/Wildfire set. It's only REALLY good, for Kamhir drits and Mastop.

Sombra+1 Harness is not listed yet on ah, scragg is MIA, but Sombra is BiS.

Below, had forgotten, you're correct, just never taken ranger to skirmish.

Wildfire also burns mobs pretty quick in Outer Raz skirm.

i use rng on marjami delve, kamihr delve, ark angels and DM, geshho

melee setups are potentially better for everything(except maybe geshho vd), but most people don't have a perfect group and/or don't want to have to focus heavily, so rng still gets a lot of play

We did all our Gessho fights with rng. PLD, RDM OR WHM, RNGX3 AND BRD. got all our heads that way.

Not even close. haste/march melees are broken as ***.

Ranger shoots much slower and ws's weaker than pretty much any DD even a WHM/DNC.

RNG is for safety/avoidance/sure-thing not damage

to put in perspective pld+rng on something like marjami is a bit slower than 2x sam in the same run by about 8 minutes on avg but 100% fool proof