Rumaha said:
Glaciont said:
lol, i use DRG for merit pts... i have enough attack V.V;;
._., u mean u have enough acc lol, can never have to much atk :O,
.... no >< now... if i have homam....
Charging For Synths.
Charging for Synths.
._., u mean u have enough acc lol, can never have to much atk :O,
.... no >< now... if i have homam....
Dragoon's two natural accuracy bonus traits are a godsend. It's what makes them one of the few jobs that can justify TPing in Askar body. However, by no means should it be a dependency. One should always balance themselves in gear, food choices according to situations.
ahhh i would justify it but right now i have to head out, BBL!
Usually I'll craft for free, provided the person has the mats required (Which I don't see why anyone wouldn't.) If they choose to tip me, that's up to them. But if you just bought all my mats off the AH and expect me to craft 12 sets of cursed cuisses so you can get your blood cuisses @50% off, then yeah, I'd expect a tip, because those are mats I could be profiting off of.
Same goes for HQ - If you bring me one set of mats and I happen to HQ it, more power to you, feel free to tip what you want. However, for a t0 synth, if someone managed to HQ it for you, then yeah, I feel any crafter should get at least 10% of the profit on it.
Same goes for HQ - If you bring me one set of mats and I happen to HQ it, more power to you, feel free to tip what you want. However, for a t0 synth, if someone managed to HQ it for you, then yeah, I feel any crafter should get at least 10% of the profit on it.
Well I appricate all the response, thought I would give a quick update thus far.
I have been responding for things like dalmatica with "Tip whatever you feel like, if it HQ's I'll keep it and supply you with a NQ, Unless you have another way you want to go with it we can work it out just let me know before the synth".
Usually I get back Ok, or awesome thats what I was hoping, etc... so everyone win
If it's a HQ I have been doing tip-50% (of diffrence between NQ and HQ) and so far no complaints and actually a few return customers within the week!
I have been responding for things like dalmatica with "Tip whatever you feel like, if it HQ's I'll keep it and supply you with a NQ, Unless you have another way you want to go with it we can work it out just let me know before the synth".
Usually I get back Ok, or awesome thats what I was hoping, etc... so everyone win
If it's a HQ I have been doing tip-50% (of diffrence between NQ and HQ) and so far no complaints and actually a few return customers within the week!
My principle on this subject as lvl 100 alchemist is;
Ill synth for ls friends or kind strangers for free if they gather materials.
ls friends can get 12 synths from me without too much hassle. (no bullet case stacks for joo! you buy!)
I wouldnt charge for a synth but have no shame in accepting tips.
I am not interested in helping people make -1 stuff Id rather they bought mine or another alchemist's to keep the value of -1 up. As a supplier it is better to concern myself with prices being higher opposed to the alchemy consumer. At the same time, If I were making a high craft rare item for a friend which HQs I would just fork it over, for that reason I will only do a high lvl synth for an ls friend that is asking for one synth that is trivial to me and/or rare to buy.
Selling stuff in bulk is prefferable. If someone were to try and buy alot of something off of me at once, a discount in relation to current AH value is in order. At the same time I have offered, and been accepted deals where I had given materials for bulk of something and paid the synther for thier time and skill resulting in a friend that just made 50-100k for just synthing, and me with 12 or so dragon gear for discount of AH value. Bulk dealing is win win if you can muster it.
I think it is both nice and smart to take /shout offers for gil for an obscure synth that you can make. I think it is a good idea aswell to shout a decent offer for an obscure synth you cannot make yourself. A couple weeks I shouted 30k for someone to make 3 incombustable wool which you need cloth encsorcelment for, it worked an was worth it. Also, I have made considerable gil in the past answering "make my cluster for X amount" shouts in the past. "help me alchemist" shouts with no gil offer are worth answering for me aswell, just for the fame.
I am honored if someone uses an Item Zoey signed.
It is valueable to help out other lvl 100 crafters and remember them.
That is all I can think of on the topic for now.
Ill synth for ls friends or kind strangers for free if they gather materials.
ls friends can get 12 synths from me without too much hassle. (no bullet case stacks for joo! you buy!)
I wouldnt charge for a synth but have no shame in accepting tips.
I am not interested in helping people make -1 stuff Id rather they bought mine or another alchemist's to keep the value of -1 up. As a supplier it is better to concern myself with prices being higher opposed to the alchemy consumer. At the same time, If I were making a high craft rare item for a friend which HQs I would just fork it over, for that reason I will only do a high lvl synth for an ls friend that is asking for one synth that is trivial to me and/or rare to buy.
Selling stuff in bulk is prefferable. If someone were to try and buy alot of something off of me at once, a discount in relation to current AH value is in order. At the same time I have offered, and been accepted deals where I had given materials for bulk of something and paid the synther for thier time and skill resulting in a friend that just made 50-100k for just synthing, and me with 12 or so dragon gear for discount of AH value. Bulk dealing is win win if you can muster it.
I think it is both nice and smart to take /shout offers for gil for an obscure synth that you can make. I think it is a good idea aswell to shout a decent offer for an obscure synth you cannot make yourself. A couple weeks I shouted 30k for someone to make 3 incombustable wool which you need cloth encsorcelment for, it worked an was worth it. Also, I have made considerable gil in the past answering "make my cluster for X amount" shouts in the past. "help me alchemist" shouts with no gil offer are worth answering for me aswell, just for the fame.
I am honored if someone uses an Item Zoey signed.
It is valueable to help out other lvl 100 crafters and remember them.
That is all I can think of on the topic for now.
Glaciont said:
That's a very rash thing to say.
First off not everyone has the gil to level crafts, it's not an issue of laziness.
Second, many people buy the materials for the synthesis because it can be a lot cheaper then actually buying the item.
Lastly your a chef, 10% on synthesis and HQ? what can you HQ that people can't 'afford' to pay you that you tell them to buy the NQ and keep the HQ? The materials they provide to you are not yours, the only thing you do is the synthesis part and as important as that is you have no right to confiscate someones item since they have already essentially paid for it.
First off not everyone has the gil to level crafts, it's not an issue of laziness.
Second, many people buy the materials for the synthesis because it can be a lot cheaper then actually buying the item.
Lastly your a chef, 10% on synthesis and HQ? what can you HQ that people can't 'afford' to pay you that you tell them to buy the NQ and keep the HQ? The materials they provide to you are not yours, the only thing you do is the synthesis part and as important as that is you have no right to confiscate someones item since they have already essentially paid for it.
Ok well if you think this go for it, but no way in hell is a person that spent 300k or so on mats for a 19mil item getting it for free you sir are insane if they cant pay 10% then too bad they get NQ end of story. If they dont like it they can go elsewhere and try. You have a 100 craft so much time and effort + gil poured into it just to 100 then like 300k gp. Yea i dont think so...
Ravencrest said:
Ok well if you think this go for it, but no way in hell is a person that spent 300k or so on mats for a 19mil item getting it for free you sir are insane if they cant pay 10% then too bad they get NQ end of story. If they dont like it they can go elsewhere and try. You have a 100 craft so much time and effort + gil poured into it just to 100 then like 300k gp. Yea i dont think so...
First off, Thanks for helping me with my WW needs earlier, Ravencrest. Much appreciated and saved me some gil.
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Back on topic, for T0's, I understand completely for charging. Percentages should vary though. Such as worth, attempts, etc.
(I'm mainly a cook (99), have an alchemy mule (64), and other mules I'm slowly bringing up.)
If they have the mats then they'll get it done for free. I don't charge or ask for tips. Currently I don't craft anything worthwhile to worry about HQ tips and whatnot, but when I do get there...If I HQ then I keep and make them NQ unless they'll buy it for at least 50% AH price.
Lilbusta said:
If they have the mats then they'll get it done for free. I don't charge or ask for tips. Currently I don't craft anything worthwhile to worry about HQ tips and whatnot, but when I do get there...If I HQ then I keep and make them NQ unless they'll buy it for at least 50% AH price.
Yea ill craft for free on cheap items even on HQ staffs but not on a T0 item no way..
Only way I'd do T0 for free is if I'm in a serious LS that has good karma rolling. Really in the long run it boils down to how greedy you are with the 1 minute you spend crafting that one item.
I've had asked a high lvl crafter to make me a low lvl HQ and it didn't happen. I still tipped him and went about my business. 10 minutes later I get a /tell saying {/trade}? It was the crafter and he tele'd out to where I was just to trade the NQ for a HQ. Just for his troubles I tried to tip, but he said no thnx and warped.
I've had asked a high lvl crafter to make me a low lvl HQ and it didn't happen. I still tipped him and went about my business. 10 minutes later I get a /tell saying {/trade}? It was the crafter and he tele'd out to where I was just to trade the NQ for a HQ. Just for his troubles I tried to tip, but he said no thnx and warped.
I just wanted to respond to the ‘not everyone has the gil’ comment.
I’ve just dinged 99 Clothcraft. I’ve been playing since the CoP/EU release and have levelled Cloth over several years. I didn’t level it at first, I started with Cooking and then switched over within a year. I even took at least 10 months off when it hit 93 cos I was so disillusioned.
I don’t have enormous amounts of gil. In the last year my ability to make gil has gone up a lot but only because my shell is now capable of doing KSNM99, Ouryu and Dynamis. We run a profit share scheme for dynamis and we all get a 4 weekly payout. We only go once a week so it’s not as huge as it could be but it’s reasonable. I did a lot of ENMs, events, harvesting, KS and lower level crafting to get to this point.
I have no idea whether I’ll hit 100, right now I’m going to work on making some gil back before I even try but it is perfectly possible to level crafts with patience and without RMT. Cloth is one of the worst these days. Other crafts like Bone, Leather and Cooking are not in the same league in terms of cost (I’m levelling Bone and Leather on mules) because you can farm your own materials most of the way up if you really want to.
Everyone can tell you, I’m not uber at making gil and I’m not the most savvy of crafters. I do ok but I don’t think I’ll ever recoup the gil I’ve spent on Cloth without some big ticket HQs and they don’t come along *that* often.
So if you think that 10mins at the AH or even 10 days farming materials is equivalent to the hours and the gil I’ve poured into Cloth, you can GTFO. I will charge you 10% on a HQ. I usually don’t charge on NQs at all. I will come to all sorts of deals for mass synths or teaming up with other crafters but I’m not giving you years of work in 10 mins for nothing.
If you want to understand more about how tough it is at the top – read :)
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I’ve just dinged 99 Clothcraft. I’ve been playing since the CoP/EU release and have levelled Cloth over several years. I didn’t level it at first, I started with Cooking and then switched over within a year. I even took at least 10 months off when it hit 93 cos I was so disillusioned.
I don’t have enormous amounts of gil. In the last year my ability to make gil has gone up a lot but only because my shell is now capable of doing KSNM99, Ouryu and Dynamis. We run a profit share scheme for dynamis and we all get a 4 weekly payout. We only go once a week so it’s not as huge as it could be but it’s reasonable. I did a lot of ENMs, events, harvesting, KS and lower level crafting to get to this point.
I have no idea whether I’ll hit 100, right now I’m going to work on making some gil back before I even try but it is perfectly possible to level crafts with patience and without RMT. Cloth is one of the worst these days. Other crafts like Bone, Leather and Cooking are not in the same league in terms of cost (I’m levelling Bone and Leather on mules) because you can farm your own materials most of the way up if you really want to.
Everyone can tell you, I’m not uber at making gil and I’m not the most savvy of crafters. I do ok but I don’t think I’ll ever recoup the gil I’ve spent on Cloth without some big ticket HQs and they don’t come along *that* often.
So if you think that 10mins at the AH or even 10 days farming materials is equivalent to the hours and the gil I’ve poured into Cloth, you can GTFO. I will charge you 10% on a HQ. I usually don’t charge on NQs at all. I will come to all sorts of deals for mass synths or teaming up with other crafters but I’m not giving you years of work in 10 mins for nothing.
If you want to understand more about how tough it is at the top – read :)
this
Eldelphia said:
I just wanted to respond to the ‘not everyone has the gil’ comment.
I’ve just dinged 99 Clothcraft. I’ve been playing since the CoP/EU release and have levelled Cloth over several years. I didn’t level it at first, I started with Cooking and then switched over within a year. I even took at least 10 months off when it hit 93 cos I was so disillusioned.
I don’t have enormous amounts of gil. In the last year my ability to make gil has gone up a lot but only because my shell is now capable of doing KSNM99, Ouryu and Dynamis. We run a profit share scheme for dynamis and we all get a 4 weekly payout. We only go once a week so it’s not as huge as it could be but it’s reasonable. I did a lot of ENMs, events, harvesting, KS and lower level crafting to get to this point.
I have no idea whether I’ll hit 100, right now I’m going to work on making some gil back before I even try but it is perfectly possible to level crafts with patience and without RMT. Cloth is one of the worst these days. Other crafts like Bone, Leather and Cooking are not in the same league in terms of cost (I’m levelling Bone and Leather on mules) because you can farm your own materials most of the way up if you really want to.
Everyone can tell you, I’m not uber at making gil and I’m not the most savvy of crafters. I do ok but I don’t think I’ll ever recoup the gil I’ve spent on Cloth without some big ticket HQs and they don’t come along *that* often.
So if you think that 10mins at the AH or even 10 days farming materials is equivalent to the hours and the gil I’ve poured into Cloth, you can GTFO. I will charge you 10% on a HQ. I usually don’t charge on NQs at all. I will come to all sorts of deals for mass synths or teaming up with other crafters but I’m not giving you years of work in 10 mins for nothing.
If you want to understand more about how tough it is at the top – read :)
this
I’ve just dinged 99 Clothcraft. I’ve been playing since the CoP/EU release and have levelled Cloth over several years. I didn’t level it at first, I started with Cooking and then switched over within a year. I even took at least 10 months off when it hit 93 cos I was so disillusioned.
I don’t have enormous amounts of gil. In the last year my ability to make gil has gone up a lot but only because my shell is now capable of doing KSNM99, Ouryu and Dynamis. We run a profit share scheme for dynamis and we all get a 4 weekly payout. We only go once a week so it’s not as huge as it could be but it’s reasonable. I did a lot of ENMs, events, harvesting, KS and lower level crafting to get to this point.
I have no idea whether I’ll hit 100, right now I’m going to work on making some gil back before I even try but it is perfectly possible to level crafts with patience and without RMT. Cloth is one of the worst these days. Other crafts like Bone, Leather and Cooking are not in the same league in terms of cost (I’m levelling Bone and Leather on mules) because you can farm your own materials most of the way up if you really want to.
Everyone can tell you, I’m not uber at making gil and I’m not the most savvy of crafters. I do ok but I don’t think I’ll ever recoup the gil I’ve spent on Cloth without some big ticket HQs and they don’t come along *that* often.
So if you think that 10mins at the AH or even 10 days farming materials is equivalent to the hours and the gil I’ve poured into Cloth, you can GTFO. I will charge you 10% on a HQ. I usually don’t charge on NQs at all. I will come to all sorts of deals for mass synths or teaming up with other crafters but I’m not giving you years of work in 10 mins for nothing.
If you want to understand more about how tough it is at the top – read :)
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^This sums it up.
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