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FFXIV (E3 Day 3) - Arcanist, Summoner and Scholar!
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By Bismarck.Aselin 2013-06-13 16:33:38
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All information pulled from Square Enix Presents Live E3 2013 Day 3 (June 13).



Scholar:




  • Primary pet: Fairy

  • Role: Handles Regen and healing over time

  • Fairy's role and appearance will change depending on what SCH does

  • Only one pet, Fairy sounds an awful like the Wyvern for Dragoon in FFXI-- one pet, but multiple roles

  • White Mage will deal the massive heals and Cures, and status effects. Scholar handles healing over time (HoT?) with Regen.



Arcanist:

  • Primary pet: Carbuncle

  • Role: Massive damage over time and debuffing enemies

  • Carbuncle is primarily a damage dealing pet (?)



Summoner:

  • Primary pet(s): Eggi Avatars

  • Eggi Avatars, from the sounds of it, are the smaller, lesser versions of the Avatar Primes. From the live stream, Eggi Ifrit is a fraction the size of Ifrit Prime.

  • Each Eggi Avatar can supposedly carry out specific roles. For example, Eggi Titan was mentioned to be a tank avatar, Ifrit a damage dealing avatar, and so on.



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Job classes and job splitting

Apparently each class can be split off into one or two different jobs. It sounds an awful lot like Ragnarok Online's job system. Arcanist, for example, can be split off into Scholar or Summoner. It is unknown whether one can do both jobs since Ragnarok Online only lets you choose one job path (if I remember correctly) as you progress higher and higher in the job tiers.

More info (and corrected info) will be added once I find more.
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By Bahamut.Mizuharu 2013-06-13 17:28:16
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By Bismarck.Aselin 2013-06-13 17:49:20
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Thank you, Mizu, for posting the video! I linked to your post above.
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By Phoenix.Tunafests 2013-06-14 23:25:30
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Must. Have. Fairy.

The job description for SCH sounds incomplete?
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By Sylph.Dasanuffadat 2013-06-16 09:39:14
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Just want to add in the E3 live stream he refers to FF12 in which they were called Garuda-Egi. Not eggi or eggie (lol) as I've seen people use. Think of it as "prototype".

Also SCH is going to be doing group aoe hot, basically Regenga (according to the E3 letter).
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By Seraph.Koroma 2013-06-16 22:39:05
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Good to see this website come back from the dead <3
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By Bahamut.Mizuharu 2013-06-17 13:55:41
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Sylph.Dasanuffadat said: »
Just want to add in the E3 live stream he refers to FF12 in which they were called Garuda-Egi. Not eggi or eggie (lol) as I've seen people use. Think of it as "prototype".

Also SCH is going to be doing group aoe hot, basically Regenga (according to the E3 letter).

If it's Regenga, maybe WHM will still have Regen? I *** loved that spell in 1.0.

Phoenix.Tunafests said: »
Must. Have. Fairy.

The job description for SCH sounds incomplete?

FinalFantasyXIVofficalsite said:
In an age long past, when mankind flourished under the radiance of arcane mastery, the island of Vylbrand was home to a city-state called Nym. Though the history of that age tells of countless wars waged with earth-shattering incantations, it was the brilliant strategic maneuvering of Nym's scholars that allowed their mundane army of mariners to throw back would-be conquerers time and again. These learned men and women defended the freedom of their tiny nation with their unique command over spell-weaving faeries, utilizing the creatures' magicks to heal the wounded and bolster the strength of their allies.
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By Phoenix.Tunafests 2013-06-17 16:25:22
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Oh, I was hoping that they just left out any offensive capabilities from the description.

Will it just be support/healing, no offensive abilities? I just started playing on Friday so I'm not sure how the class abilities affect the advanced jobs.
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By Sylph.Dasanuffadat 2013-06-17 20:59:53
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Phoenix.Tunafests said: »
Oh, I was hoping that they just left out any offensive capabilities from the description.

Will it just be support/healing, no offensive abilities? I just started playing on Friday so I'm not sure how the class abilities affect the advanced jobs.

jobs retain their base classes abilities so sch will be attacking with fairy, regengaing pt and using dots on mob i gather.
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By Phoenix.Tunafests 2013-06-17 21:35:31
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Sylph.Dasanuffadat said: »
Phoenix.Tunafests said: »
Oh, I was hoping that they just left out any offensive capabilities from the description.

Will it just be support/healing, no offensive abilities? I just started playing on Friday so I'm not sure how the class abilities affect the advanced jobs.

jobs retain their base classes abilities so sch will be attacking with fairy, regengaing pt and using dots on mob i gather.

Ah, thanks, I see. I'm just curious to see if it only retains Conjurer offensive abilities, or, does SCH have it's own, new offensive abilities?
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By Sylph.Dasanuffadat 2013-06-18 08:05:29
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SCH comes from Arcanist (dot/enfeebling pet job). as for SCH specific abilities, only fairy and regenga have been confirmed so far so gotta wait out the next couple months.
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By Phoenix.Tunafests 2013-06-18 08:16:11
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Sylph.Dasanuffadat said: »
SCH comes from Arcanist (dot/enfeebling pet job). as for SCH specific abilities, only fairy and regenga have been confirmed so far so gotta wait out the next couple months.

Oops, I meant Arcanist! /tired

Yeah, I know I'm jumping the gun.
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By Bahamut.Mizuharu 2013-06-18 08:19:39
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Some info about SMN from an interview with Yoshida at E3.
Quote:
GE: Can you tell us about Summoner? What type of role will it have in a party? Do you envision it to be a healer? Attacker? Support?

Yoshida: Closer to an attacker, but different than the other types of attackers you have seen in the other jobs and classes in FFXIV. The summoner himself will be concentrating more on damage over time (DOT) spells and buffing spells. The summon – and you won’t be summoning, for example, Ifrit himself, but will be summoning a different form of Ifrit, which we are calling Ifrit Eggi, which you might recognize from FFXII – will be used in a different way as well. So it will be an attack type of job, but its going to be a little bit different.

GE: Are the Eggi pets? Or will they show up for an attack and then disappear?

Yoshida: They will be a pet and stay with you after you summon them.
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Buffing spells?! :O If Bravery/Faith managed to sneak their way into player-accessible spells, I would be so happy!
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By Odin.Mithraspike 2013-06-18 13:52:26
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So...to sum this up:
Arcanist = and Scholar =

Summoner = FFXI Summoner
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By Sylph.Katalsar 2013-06-18 14:59:45
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Dude I stood away from the MMO games but wow..I'm amazed at looking at the jobs, limit breaks, the way how classes cast magic, the actual magic being casted...

This MMO looks fantastic, the only thing I don't like is they still refuse to give galkas their tails but whatever...

I'm thrilled to play every class they all look really enjoyable.

Can someone give me some feedback on the beta testing. I want to know the pros and cons.
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By Bahamut.Mizuharu 2013-06-18 15:21:22
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Sylph.Katalsar said: »
Dude I stood away from the MMO games but wow..I'm amazed at looking at the jobs, limit breaks, the way how classes cast magic, the actual magic being casted...

This MMO looks fantastic, the only thing I don't like is they still refuse to give galkas their tails but whatever...

I'm thrilled to play every class they all look really enjoyable.

Can someone give me some feedback on the beta testing. I want to know the pros and cons.

The three biggest cons for Beta arm are
1) Weekend access only til later. >:[
2) ARC/SMN/SCH won't be ready until launch. >:[
3) NO FISHER TIL PHASE 4!! D:<
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-06-18 15:22:04
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What's up with fishing? Why excluded?
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By Bahamut.Mizuharu 2013-06-18 15:33:57
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
What's up with fishing? Why excluded?

Well they had it kind of set up similar to Mining and Harvesting, but then Yoshida said that fishing should be relaxing and not "MASH ALL DA BUTTONS" (not a direct quote lol.) Actually he mentioned something in that interview about it...

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GE: It’s been a while since we’ve heard anything about fishing. Can you tell us how it’s going to work and when we will be able to try it?

Yoshida: Fishing will be available starting in phase four of the beta test. Players can check it out then. We mentioned before in a Producer’s Letter live, but the concept that we have for fishing in FFXIV is that we didn’t want to make it action based. We didn’t want actions like a battle class has, or to be pressing buttons at certain times like it was originally. Rather, we want to have players just go to a lake or river or ocean, and have players, depending on what type of water it is and maybe what time of day it is, choose which rod you are going to use, and maybe what bait or lure you are going to use. The concept is that fishing is supposed to be a conversation with nature. We wanted the fishing in fourteen to be representative of that.

We really wanted it to be something you can do in the free time that you have. For example, you go into the duty finder and while waiting in the queue, you can change to fisher and fish a little bit, and when your number comes up, change back and go. Or if you are waiting on a friend to log in. To be able to do something in that downtime that’s fun, but relaxing.

I rather liked the mini-game version of fishing in 1.0 (granted my fisher was only 29 before servers shut down. Same with my CUL too... lolseasandto42. >_>) Can't wait for phase4 to see if I'll still like it.
Odin.Mithraspike said: »
So...to sum this up:
Arcanist = and Scholar =

Summoner = FFXI Summoner
No, to sum it up...
Arcanist =

Summoner =

and Scholar =

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By Ragnarok.Zeromega 2013-06-18 15:38:17
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FFXIV will get Atomos and cait sith before FFXI
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Ragnarok.Zeromega said: »
FFXIV will get Atomos and cait sith before FFXI

LMAO yeah and probably everything else under the sun at this point. More jobs are already in the works, and they seems to be very optimistic for the success of ARR. Expansion already in the works for the PS4 launch, new race, new jobs such as thief, ninja, red mage, blue mage and musketeers (with a really big gunblade?). Yoshi shows no sign of stopping until he makes FF14 as the ultimate fan service with every FF lore and easter eggs added to the game.
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By Bahamut.Mizuharu 2013-06-18 16:28:26
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Ragnarok.Zeromega said: »
FFXIV will get Atomos and cait sith before FFXI

Technically we already got Atomos before FFXI.


And Cait Sith to come (as a minion)!
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By Sylph.Dasanuffadat 2013-06-18 17:37:06
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Odin.Mithraspike said: »
So...to sum this up:
Arcanist = pic of ff3 rdm and Scholar = pic of wow druid[/img]

Summoner = FFXI Summoner

Arcanist doesn't have access to white magic or black magic outside of THM's Thunder (DoT) and CNJ's cure1 (plus protect and stoneskin). Not sure what Arcanist's DoT's will be counted as. It also gets Carbuncle.

Scholar doesn't transform and it uses a fairy pet (that has buffs/heals/attacks and multiple forms), AoE Regens and ACN's DoT's. If anything its just the regen and helix of XIs SCH and subbing SMN with a light elemental pet.

Summoner doesn't have all of XI's pets (IIRC won't have access to Carbuncle), the role is that primarily of an attacker. We don't get actual versions of the Primals, we get mini versions. Free companies get the actual versions. SMN won't have access to higher cures to heal between pet abilities and instead will be doing DoT nukes.
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By Bahamut.Mizuharu 2013-06-18 21:48:47
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Sylph.Dasanuffadat said: »
Odin.Mithraspike said: »
So...to sum this up:
Arcanist = pic of ff3 rdm and Scholar = pic of wow druid[/img]

Summoner = FFXI Summoner

Arcanist doesn't have access to white magic or black magic outside of THM's Thunder (DoT) and CNJ's cure1 (plus protect and stoneskin). Not sure what Arcanist's DoT's will be counted as. It also gets Carbuncle.

Scholar doesn't transform and it uses a fairy pet (that has buffs/heals/attacks and multiple forms), AoE Regens and ACN's DoT's. If anything its just the regen and helix of XIs SCH and subbing SMN with a light elemental pet.

Summoner doesn't have all of XI's pets (IIRC won't have access to Carbuncle), the role is that primarily of an attacker. We don't get actual versions of the Primals, we get mini versions. Free companies get the actual versions. SMN won't have access to higher cures to heal between pet abilities and instead will be doing DoT nukes.

And summoner will have buffing skills! It says so in that interview I linked! :O We know Haste is out since Yoshida said it's unneeded what with skill/spell speed+ gear. Bravery and Faith gogo! >:O
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By Sylph.Dasanuffadat 2013-06-19 11:14:55
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Bahamut.Mizuharu said: »
Sylph.Dasanuffadat said: »
Odin.Mithraspike said: »
So...to sum this up:
Arcanist = pic of ff3 rdm and Scholar = pic of wow druid[/img]

Summoner = FFXI Summoner

Arcanist doesn't have access to white magic or black magic outside of THM's Thunder (DoT) and CNJ's cure1 (plus protect and stoneskin). Not sure what Arcanist's DoT's will be counted as. It also gets Carbuncle.

Scholar doesn't transform and it uses a fairy pet (that has buffs/heals/attacks and multiple forms), AoE Regens and ACN's DoT's. If anything its just the regen and helix of XIs SCH and subbing SMN with a light elemental pet.

Summoner doesn't have all of XI's pets (IIRC won't have access to Carbuncle), the role is that primarily of an attacker. We don't get actual versions of the Primals, we get mini versions. Free companies get the actual versions. SMN won't have access to higher cures to heal between pet abilities and instead will be doing DoT nukes.

And summoner will have buffing skills! It says so in that interview I linked! :O We know Haste is out since Yoshida said it's unneeded what with skill/spell speed+ gear. Bravery and Faith gogo! >:O

Honestly I'm guessing it'll be buffs that mirror bard's. Like Ifrit-egi will give an attack buff and will be up in the frontlines attacking.
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By Sylph.Mizzou 2013-07-03 12:01:46
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I'd prefer Scholar as XI's scholar. Summoner is what it is... a summon-er. It's summons... stuff. Scholar was an excellent alternative to white mage. But, it's not like I know how this scholar will play.

However, there was mention of Samurai in the future as well.
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Sylph.Katalsar said: »
Dude I stood away from the MMO games but wow..I'm amazed at looking at the jobs, limit breaks, the way how classes cast magic, the actual magic being casted...

This MMO looks fantastic, the only thing I don't like is they still refuse to give galkas their tails but whatever...

I'm thrilled to play every class they all look really enjoyable.

Can someone give me some feedback on the beta testing. I want to know the pros and cons.

First and foremost--get your Galka bum in here!!! :) Second, the game is pretty nice, albeit, in early stages since we can't seem to go beyond lv20'sh quests. Aside from the tails... these "Galkas" look more intimidating. Or you could join me as a Mi'qote if you want a tail... no? I didn't think so :)
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By Bahamut.Mizuharu 2013-07-03 14:22:51
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Sylph.Mizzou said: »
I'd prefer Scholar as XI's scholar. Summoner is what it is... a summon-er. It's summons... stuff. Scholar was an excellent alternative to white mage. But, it's not like I know how this scholar will play.

However, there was mention of Samurai in the future as well.
Your text to link here...

SCH will be buff/debuffing enemy (inherit skills from Arcanist) and the Fairy will be DDing/Healing. SCH will also get some AoE version of Regen according to the E3 Live letter. Speaking of which, Yoshida also said during that letter that Samurai is a possibility, but they're not promising anything. They do play to release one or two more jobs sometime after launch, and then more with an expansion. Assuming all goes well (which I have high hopes it will :x)
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