[Dev] Prism Staff (All Elemental Staves Combined)

Language: JP EN DE FR
New Items
2023-11-19
users online
Forum » FFXI » Endgame » Magian Trials » [Dev] Prism Staff (All Elemental Staves Combined)
[Dev] Prism Staff (All Elemental Staves Combined)
First Page 2 3 4 5
 Carbuncle.Shokox
Offline
Server: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
user: Shokox
Posts: 633
By Carbuncle.Shokox 2012-07-11 12:42:23
Link | Quote | Reply
 
:Q
 Siren.Kalilla
VIP
Offline
Server: Siren
Game: FFXI
user: Kalila
Posts: 14552
By Siren.Kalilla 2012-07-11 12:48:46
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Just quoting for the new page so you don't have to go back a page.

Siren.Kalilla said: »
07-11-2012 12:32 PM
[source]
Camate
Community Rep

-NECRO BUMP DETECTED!-

...but it's for a good cause!

I just got the latest look at the stats on the Prism Staff (name pending)!

【HQ stats】
D45 Delay 356
STR+5 DEX+5 VIT+5 AGI+5 INT+5 MND+5 CHR+5
All elemental resistances+20 Cure potency+10% Healing MP+10
Iridescence (※1)
Magic attack bonus, magic accuracy bonus, and avatar perpetuation cost-3 for each element (※2)
Lv.61~

※1 This is the name of an original effect for the Prism Staff, which makes this staff strongly affected by weather.
※2 This is the hidden effect, though I guess it is not really "hidden." It is just not displayed.

We will continue to give updates on the progress as we find out!
Subscribe
Offline
Posts: 3206
By Enuyasha 2012-07-11 12:49:23
Link | Quote | Reply
 
So totally worth it for enfeebles instead of hogging 16 spaces for ToTM staves<3
[+]
 Leviathan.Jackieolivas
Offline
Server: Leviathan
Game: FFXI
user: Rahziela
Posts: 420
By Leviathan.Jackieolivas 2012-07-11 12:50:22
Link | Quote | Reply
 
They need to just add the damn thing already and quit teasing us. And am I the only one that thinks the name "Prism Staff" doesn't need to be changed? Name pending... Prism is just fine.
[+]
 Lakshmi.Byrth
VIP
Offline
Server: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
user: Byrthnoth
Posts: 6137
By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-07-11 12:50:57
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Enuyasha said: »
So totally worth it for enfeebles instead of hogging 16 spaces for ToTM staves<3

It's not as good as the respective TotM Staves, so if you cared enough to make them then you probably care enough to keep them out over this.
 Leviathan.Jackieolivas
Offline
Server: Leviathan
Game: FFXI
user: Rahziela
Posts: 420
By Leviathan.Jackieolivas 2012-07-11 12:52:26
Link | Quote | Reply
 
They could at least add more Cure+ to it...
Offline
Posts: 3206
By Enuyasha 2012-07-11 12:52:40
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
Enuyasha said: »
So totally worth it for enfeebles instead of hogging 16 spaces for ToTM staves<3

It's not as good as the respective TotM Staves, so if you cared enough to make them then you probably care enough to keep them out over this.
yes, but now if i didn't want to go through all that...i dont have to
 Ragnarok.Trixi
Offline
Server: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
user: Trixi
Posts: 115
By Ragnarok.Trixi 2012-07-11 12:53:53
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Ehh.. MAB instead of Affinity? It was neither MAB nor MATK on the originals.. i'm hoping it's just bad wording, and will still do the same damage as the HQs.
 Siren.Kalilla
VIP
Offline
Server: Siren
Game: FFXI
user: Kalila
Posts: 14552
By Siren.Kalilla 2012-07-11 12:54:46
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Remember this staff isn't meant to replace ToM staffs, it is the level 51 group combined.
 Leviathan.Jackieolivas
Offline
Server: Leviathan
Game: FFXI
user: Rahziela
Posts: 420
By Leviathan.Jackieolivas 2012-07-11 12:57:01
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Siren.Kalilla said: »
Remember this staff isn't meant to replace ToM staffs, it is the level 51 group combined.

With that in mind, Square's designers should go digging through old DAT sites and find those DATs that made the old staves shine, then combine them to make a real Prism Staff, complete with rainbow shine. ^^
[+]
 Ramuh.Laffter
Offline
Server: Ramuh
Game: FFXI
user: Rocketpop
Posts: 11972
By Ramuh.Laffter 2012-07-11 12:57:39
Link | Quote | Reply
 
They won't do that cuz they "only use their own work"
 Ragnarok.Trixi
Offline
Server: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
user: Trixi
Posts: 115
By Ragnarok.Trixi 2012-07-11 12:58:49
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Siren.Kalilla said: »
Remember this staff isn't meant to replace ToM staffs, it is the level 51 group combined.
If they use MAB in the formulas instead, it may not even beat the originals in terms of damage.
[+]
 Bismarck.Misao
Offline
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
user: misacat
Posts: 22620
By Bismarck.Misao 2012-07-11 13:00:03
Link | Quote | Reply
 
[+]
 Lakshmi.Byrth
VIP
Offline
Server: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
user: Byrthnoth
Posts: 6137
By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-07-11 13:00:29
Link | Quote | Reply
 
I think the JP post hints towards Magic Affinity rather than MAB:
http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/103222-Dev-Tracker-%283-8-2011%29?p=5296732&viewfull=1#post5296732
 Leviathan.Jackieolivas
Offline
Server: Leviathan
Game: FFXI
user: Rahziela
Posts: 420
By Leviathan.Jackieolivas 2012-07-11 13:02:20
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Bismarck.Misao said: »

Good one Misao, but I was thinking more along the lines of the DATs that just added the shine to the original staves' jewel.

Although, knowing Square, they will probably just use the same tired Rune Staff model that all the ToM models are now or the original Staves' model with a clear jewel rather than a colored one.
 Bismarck.Misao
Offline
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
user: misacat
Posts: 22620
By Bismarck.Misao 2012-07-11 13:03:51
Link | Quote | Reply
 
I just love the particles of these~
 Ragnarok.Kongming
Offline
Server: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
user: koumei
Posts: 1052
By Ragnarok.Kongming 2012-07-11 13:13:07
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Ragnarok.Trixi said: »
Siren.Kalilla said: »
Remember this staff isn't meant to replace ToM staffs, it is the level 51 group combined.
If they use MAB in the formulas instead, it may not even beat the originals in terms of damage.
Even if it's "affinity" like the one from ToM staves, it won't beat the old ones in specific circumstances. I have complete faith SE will find multiple ways of screwing this up.
Offline
Posts: 1546
By Ophannus 2012-07-11 13:15:35
Link | Quote | Reply
 
These are the "HQ" stats which means its gonna be a super high level synergy probably that takes 8 of the elemental HQ staves for a shot at NQ Prism Staff I bet. HQ is probably gonna be extremely expensive.
 Siren.Kalilla
VIP
Offline
Server: Siren
Game: FFXI
user: Kalila
Posts: 14552
By Siren.Kalilla 2012-07-11 13:17:16
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Camate said:
Infidi said:
I know it would be too much to hope for but you didn't mean "Magic Damage +3" instead of MAB +3 did you, Camate? I Think that would make it just abit stronger the HQ elemental staves we have now ? Which I think equates to Magic Damage +2? IDR for sure lol. Someone can correct me .
Hi Infidi!

Japanese-wise I checked into this a bit more. The original Japanese post shows "魔法攻撃力+" instead of "魔法攻撃力アップ", so I will go ahead and say that this is "Magic Attack+" and not "Magic Attack Bonus." I will however confirm this for sure and get back you to
Offline
Posts: 1546
By Ophannus 2012-07-11 13:17:25
Link | Quote | Reply
 
This is the Prism Staff.

[+]
 Leviathan.Jackieolivas
Offline
Server: Leviathan
Game: FFXI
user: Rahziela
Posts: 420
By Leviathan.Jackieolivas 2012-07-11 13:23:01
Link | Quote | Reply
 
That's too subtle... All the others you can tell apart right away. Unless they make the actually staff a different color, or make the colors on the jewel more pronounced, this will fade in the light and look like Apollo.
[+]
Offline
Posts: 1546
By Ophannus 2012-07-11 13:33:55
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Might add a glow effect, or maybe the colors in the orb are animated and move like a lavalamp.
[+]
Offline
Posts: 3206
By Enuyasha 2012-07-11 13:34:39
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Leviathan.Jackieolivas said: »
That's too subtle... All the others you can tell apart right away. Unless they make the actually staff a different color, or make the colors on the jewel more pronounced, this will fade in the light and look like Apollo.
Because you cant tell pearl white from an in-game light effect right?
 Leviathan.Jackieolivas
Offline
Server: Leviathan
Game: FFXI
user: Rahziela
Posts: 420
By Leviathan.Jackieolivas 2012-07-11 13:34:58
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Enuyasha said: »
Because you cant tell pearl white from an in-game light effect right?

What light do you speak of? The jewel on that model looks like flat color to me.

Ophannus said: »
Might add a glow effect, or maybe the colors in the orb are animated and move like a lavalamp.

A lava lamp effect would be facking awesome!
[+]
 Sylph.Krsone
Offline
Server: Sylph
Game: FFXI
user: Basilo
Posts: 1299
By Sylph.Krsone 2012-07-11 13:52:03
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Leviathan.Jackieolivas said: »
They could at least add more Cure+ to it...

Remember it apparently has +2 affinity acc/dmg like the lvl 51 staffs as mentioned so in theory its 10% cure potency + apollos staff.
 Phoenix.Sehachan
Guide Maker
Offline
Server: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
user: Seha
Posts: 13352
By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-07-11 14:20:38
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Affinity... ._.
Offline
Posts: 83
By bigdave1978 2012-07-11 14:23:12
Link | Quote | Reply
 
i wonder if you can augment it like you can hq staves
 Siren.Buddah
Offline
Server: Siren
Game: FFXI
user: Buddah278
Posts: 34
By Siren.Buddah 2012-07-11 14:28:12
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Too little too late imo, SE shouldve released this in ~2005
[+]
 Lakshmi.Byrth
VIP
Offline
Server: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
user: Byrthnoth
Posts: 6137
By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-07-11 14:35:38
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Staves didn't actually have Affinity, they had "Staff Bonus" which was a different term. It's only important in Abyssea, though.
[+]
 Sylph.Krsone
Offline
Server: Sylph
Game: FFXI
user: Basilo
Posts: 1299
By Sylph.Krsone 2012-07-11 15:01:33
Link | Quote | Reply
 
I knew, but it roughly works out to be about +2 affinity. Point still remains it could be light element magic attack as well as the cure potency which is what im reading the description as. Which could make it worthwhile for cures too.
Log in to post.