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 Siren.Kalilla
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-02-03 06:55:35
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[dev1080] Job Adjustments: Thief

  • Assassin’s Charge

    • Recast time will be reduced from fifteen minutes to five.
    • Additional merit points will no longer reduce recast time, but instead increase accuracy by 25% per point.

  • Feint

    • Recast time will be reduced from ten minutes to two.
    • Additional merit points will no longer reduce recast time, but instead raise the chance of Treasure Hunter leveling up by 25% per point.

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By Ragnarok.Garota 2012-02-03 06:57:52
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Wowza...
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-02-03 07:03:46
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Gonna lower *** charge to 1.
Gonna up Feint to 5.
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By Phoenix.Azaron 2012-02-03 07:12:52
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LOL xD
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By Ragnarok.Nekonarf 2012-02-03 07:13:28
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I can see that getting nerfed before its even thrown out the gate from 25% to 10-15% on both of those.

Also will feint even drop mobs evasion still? or are we expected to spam gravity things in zergs?
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By Phoenix.Hawkhellfire 2012-02-03 07:47:36
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I think feint will still lower mobs evasion by the same % for 30 seconds, but with additional merits, increase chance of TH raising (from 25%-100% depending on 2-5 merits).

Sounds great to me!
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-02-03 07:49:10
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Yeah, also cause relic pants give additional evasion down.
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By Asura.Karbuncle 2012-02-03 08:13:51
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Ragnarok.Nekonarf said: »
I can see that getting nerfed before its even thrown out the gate from 25% to 10-15% on both of those.

Also will feint even drop mobs evasion still? or are we expected to spam gravity things in zergs?

IDK Why they'd nerf ***-charges additional effect.

99% of the time I use it in junction with SA, or TA, so Accuracy bonus is entirely worthless.

1/5 Assassin's Charge, 5/5 Feint, 4/5 Aura Steal pretty much for me D:

Phoenix.Hawkhellfire said: »
I think feint will still lower mobs evasion by the same % for 30 seconds, but with additional merits, increase chance of TH raising (from 25%-100% depending on 2-5 merits).

Sounds great to me!

You probably know this, But its raising the chance by 100%, Meaning, If you have a 5% Chance to upgrade TH, it'll be 10% Chance with feint on.

Just clarifying XD
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By Siren.Mosin 2012-02-03 08:47:06
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before I read the OP, I saw THF in a dev post and was terrified. that's what it's come to. If the dev's say anything about MNK THF or BST, it's a full on panic, wondering what exactly they'll *** up next >.<
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By Phoenix.Kirana 2012-02-03 08:49:34
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Time to go 5/5 aura steal...
 
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By Lakshmi.Antonios 2012-02-03 11:11:04
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So when is this going into Effect? lol
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By Cerberus.Billgoku 2012-02-03 16:03:12
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Nice, glad I'm already 5/5 Feint, takin merits outa *** Charge though.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-02-03 16:08:01
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Lakshmi.Antonios said: »
So when is this going into Effect? lol
All the current adjustments are already added to the test server for testing.

Give that about 2 weeks to a month until you see it on the main servers.
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By Phoenix.Hawkhellfire 2012-02-03 16:16:48
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Asura.Karbuncle said: »
Ragnarok.Nekonarf said: »
I can see that getting nerfed before its even thrown out the gate from 25% to 10-15% on both of those.

Also will feint even drop mobs evasion still? or are we expected to spam gravity things in zergs?

IDK Why they'd nerf ***-charges additional effect.

99% of the time I use it in junction with SA, or TA, so Accuracy bonus is entirely worthless.

1/5 Assassin's Charge, 5/5 Feint, 4/5 Aura Steal pretty much for me D:

Phoenix.Hawkhellfire said: »
I think feint will still lower mobs evasion by the same % for 30 seconds, but with additional merits, increase chance of TH raising (from 25%-100% depending on 2-5 merits).

Sounds great to me!

You probably know this, But its raising the chance by 100%, Meaning, If you have a 5% Chance to upgrade TH, it'll be 10% Chance with feint on.

Just clarifying XD

Yeah I know that. But that's still a lot better then feint is now. It's just a bonus to the eva - we can put on, especially if solo when we can't SA without sleep bolts. And in group events, every min we have SA AND TA, and every 2 min feint. Just better chances for drops overall which is one of the things THF is known for. So personally I'm happy with the change.
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By Asura.Yekyaa 2012-02-04 09:45:47
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What the hell did I miss?
Where's the testing thread that shows THF got Dual Wield III at level 98?
I've been subbing NIN since the 99 update like a jackass.
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By Odin.Liela 2012-02-04 11:04:28
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Well poop. My merits were arranged for 5 feint, 4 assassin's charge, 1 aura steal, and I pretended ambush didn't exist. Now I'm going to have to drop assassin's charge down to one, throw one merit at least at ambush, and fill the rest up with aura steal I suppose. Or maybe I'll still pretend ambush doesn't exist. I love yoinking buffs off mobs and applying them to myself. <3

If SE loved me, they'd let me yoink 2-hours off mobs!
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By Asura.Karbuncle 2012-02-04 11:05:29
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Asura.Yekyaa said: »
What the hell did I miss?
Where's the testing thread that shows THF got Dual Wield III at level 98?
I've been subbing NIN since the 99 update like a jackass.

Um - I think it was tested and confirmed on BG, Somewhere in the "Test Server Findings" thread.

I can't find it specifically but its there somewhere.

Odin.Liela said: »
Well poop. My merits were arranged for 5 feint, 4 assassin's charge, 1 aura steal, and I pretended ambush didn't exist. Now I'm going to have to drop assassin's charge down to one, throw one merit at least at ambush, and fill the rest up with aura steal I suppose. Or maybe I'll still pretend ambush doesn't exist. I love yoinking buffs off mobs and applying them to myself. <3

If SE loved me, they'd let me yoink 2-hours off mobs!

I'd do 5/5 Feint, 4/5 Aura, 1/5ass-charge.

Or 4/5 Feint, 5/5 Aura, 1/5 ***-charge.

And continue to pretend Ambush doesn't exist.
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By Odin.Liela 2012-02-04 11:07:15
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Asura.Yekyaa said: »
What the hell did I miss?
Where's the testing thread that shows THF got Dual Wield III at level 98?
I've been subbing NIN since the 99 update like a jackass.

Aw lol /comfort. It's ok, I still /nin a bit too just because the shadows save me sometimes. ^^
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By Asura.Karbuncle 2012-02-04 11:09:28
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Only time i /NIN ever is if i want the extra chance at yellow procs in abyssea XD
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By Odin.Liela 2012-02-04 11:15:59
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Honestly, the only time my thf really comes out to play much anymore is for dynamis, and I'd rather /dnc for that. It's not such a waste of sneak/invis tools and meds, and gives you extra procs for staggers and the ability to cure yourself. But on the off-chance that the ls requests thf for voidwatch or something, I /nin. Those shadows have saved me more than once! Really though, that's pretty rare. Thf isn't too useful for voidwatch.
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By Asura.Karbuncle 2012-02-04 11:20:56
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Odin.Liela said: »
Honestly, the only time my thf really comes out to play much anymore is for dynamis, and I'd rather /dnc for that. It's not such a waste of sneak/invis tools and meds, and gives you extra procs for staggers and the ability to cure yourself. But on the off-chance that the ls requests thf for voidwatch or something, I /nin. Those shadows have saved me more than once! Really though, that's pretty rare. Thf isn't too useful for voidwatch.

When i THF in Voidwatch usually /WAR, or /DNC (if they want the /DNC Procs).

Fanatic's helps me more :P

But your point is quite reasonable :O
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By Cerberus.Mindi 2012-02-05 07:02:55
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Asura.Karbuncle said: »
Or maybe I'll still pretend ambush doesn't exist.

Whats Ambush?! well but honestly.. the relic+2 body got a nice boost to ambush.. but still then seems pretty pointless :( they really should rethink ambush.. if they would make it a "mini sneak attack" so you have a huge crit hitrate+ and crit hit dmg+ when attacking from behind the mob (dont even need the huge extra dmg like SA) then ambush could be worth to toss 3ish Merits into (1 Assasinscharge/1Aurasteal/5Feint)
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By Sylph.Etoilemourante 2012-02-05 08:03:29
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Josiahkf said: »
SA -> wait 50 seconds -> feint -> pop NM -> bully -> SA again instantly lol

it seems almost impossible to not hit th9 now in seconds, in theory


When use Feint , SA or TA never up TH ^^
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By Phoenix.Bomber 2012-02-05 09:51:19
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Im 99 THF and i have yet to land a steal so no ill never merit aura steal lol
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By Cerberus.Mindi 2012-02-05 09:54:21
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Phoenix.Bomber said: »
Im 99 THF and i have yet to land a steal so no ill never merit aura steal lol

Aurasteal is 100% Dispel effect when a Mob has a buff active
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By Phoenix.Bomber 2012-02-05 10:01:42
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Cerberus.Mindi said: »
Phoenix.Bomber said: »
Im 99 THF and i have yet to land a steal so no ill never merit aura steal lol

Aurasteal is 100% Dispel effect when a Mob has a buff active
Still not gonna merit it!!!
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By Bahamut.Angelos 2012-02-05 10:07:38
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Phoenix.Bomber said: »
Cerberus.Mindi said: »
Phoenix.Bomber said: »
Im 99 THF and i have yet to land a steal so no ill never merit aura steal lol

Aurasteal is 100% Dispel effect when a Mob has a buff active
Still not gonna merit it!!!


Because you still don't know how to use it D:
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By Phoenix.Bomber 2012-02-05 10:12:16
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Bahamut.Angelos said: »
Phoenix.Bomber said: »
Cerberus.Mindi said: »
Phoenix.Bomber said: »
Im 99 THF and i have yet to land a steal so no ill never merit aura steal lol

Aurasteal is 100% Dispel effect when a Mob has a buff active
Still not gonna merit it!!!


Because you still don't know how to use it D:
Pfft Feint and Assn. charge all the things!
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By Bahamut.Angelos 2012-02-05 10:14:20
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Phoenix.Bomber said: »
Bahamut.Angelos said: »
Phoenix.Bomber said: »
Cerberus.Mindi said: »
Phoenix.Bomber said: »
Im 99 THF and i have yet to land a steal so no ill never merit aura steal lol

Aurasteal is 100% Dispel effect when a Mob has a buff active
Still not gonna merit it!!!


Because you still don't know how to use it D:
Pfft Feint and Assn. charge all the things!


What do you HONESTLY?! still need evasion for? Or anyone for that matter.
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