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[dev1082] Job Adjustments: Ranger
 Siren.Kalilla
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-02-03 06:50:23
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[dev1082] Job Adjustments: Ranger

  • Flashy Shot

    • Recast time will be reduced from twenty minutes to ten.
    • Additional merit points will no longer reduce recast time, but instead reduce enmity incurred by 20% per point.

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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2012-02-03 15:16:01
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saw ranger update thread, got excited...

saw ranger update thread, got disappointed :<

Se should change their company name to disappointment-enix :x since that's all they ever do.
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2012-02-03 15:18:05
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Job adjustments = very very minor, 1-2 JA reducements.
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2012-02-03 15:19:28
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I was hoping for an auto-ranged attack or a fix to that ranged attack-afterlock ><
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By Carbuncle.Kerokun 2012-02-03 15:21:52
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Saw update notes saying SE was going to lower merit point abilities' recasts and make multiple merits in the abilities increase effect instead of recast--weeks ago!

Read notes and was not surprised.

...Oh, and read the DRK and PLD JA update details from the other day.

SE should change their company name to "We're-Doing-What-We-Said-We-Were-Doing-Enix" 'cause that's all they ever do.
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2012-02-03 15:27:25
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Carbuncle.Kerokun said: »
Saw update notes saying SE was going to lower merit point abilities' recasts and make multiple merits in the abilities increase effect instead of recast--weeks ago!

Read notes and was not surprised.

...Oh, and read the DRK and PLD JA update details from the other day.

SE should change their company name to "We're-Doing-What-We-Said-We-Were-Doing-Enix" 'cause that's all they ever do.

Sorry, I don't read and memorize every thread that SE puts out weeks ago.
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By Carbuncle.Kerokun 2012-02-03 15:28:23
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Leviathan.Hohenheim said: »
Carbuncle.Kerokun said: »
Saw update notes saying SE was going to lower merit point abilities' recasts and make multiple merits in the abilities increase effect instead of recast--weeks ago!

Read notes and was not surprised.

...Oh, and read the DRK and PLD JA update details from the other day.

SE should change their company name to "We're-Doing-What-We-Said-We-Were-Doing-Enix" 'cause that's all they ever do.

Sorry, I don't read and memorize every thread that SE puts out weeks ago.
Dude, it's all about readin' dem threads with yer tea and biscuits. It was srs bsns.
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-02-03 15:35:07
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Leviathan.Hohenheim said: »
I was hoping for an auto-ranged attack or a fix to that ranged attack-afterlock ><


This x10000

My biggest gripe with Ranger is waiting on WSs when every other job can WS instantly at 100tp.
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By fyreus 2012-02-03 22:47:48
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Well we get semi unnerfed every 10mins. Fine with me.
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2012-02-03 22:48:45
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fyreus said: »
Well we get semi unnerfed every 10mins. Fine with me.

Yeah but with af2+2 augmented head now, you might as well 5/5 recycle for stp+50 when it procs 50% of the time, then 5/5 snapshot is a given.
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By Asura.Vrytreya 2012-02-03 22:57:17
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20% less of extra enmity.. I wonder if that was really high in the first place.
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By Bismarck.Helel 2012-02-03 23:03:45
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Pointless update but whatever. The wording is interesting though; it seems like there's no point in stealth shot anymore (not that there ever was...).

It might be like the drk update though and it's just a % decrease of the % increase in enmity (like VZX says).

Should give RNG recycle as a job trait really (at the same potency as 5/5 merits). Otherwise there's really nothing else to merit in group 2 (snapshot is a given).
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2012-02-03 23:39:43
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Useless
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By Siren.Froggis 2012-02-05 08:01:00
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So this will be Stealth Shot with a longer recast, ignore lv. difference, and -100 enm.

That's not even a real change... does this count as our update? Do-over!

Edit: though it says "enmity incurred," I'm hoping they mean it will reset CE lol.

2nd thought edit: I mean, it's really potentially a nice JA now with the 0 enm generation, but I'm a little bitter that I already swapped from 5/5 flashy to 5/5 stealth like 6 mo. ago (not that 22 merits takes long to get).
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By Bismarck.Markas 2012-02-05 10:29:17
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By Asura.Vrytreya 2012-02-05 11:37:56
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Siren.Froggis said: »
2nd thought edit: I mean, it's really potentially a nice JA now with the 0 enm generation, but I'm a little bitter that I already swapped from 5/5 flashy to 5/5 stealth like 6 mo. ago (not that 22 merits takes long to get).
You most likely didn't read/remember what the Flashy Shot description says.

Flashy shot is still be one of the impractical WS boosting JA due to its recast timer.
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By Siren.Froggis 2012-02-05 12:24:14
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Asura.Vrytreya said: »
Siren.Froggis said: »
2nd thought edit: I mean, it's really potentially a nice JA now with the 0 enm generation, but I'm a little bitter that I already swapped from 5/5 flashy to 5/5 stealth like 6 mo. ago (not that 22 merits takes long to get).
You most likely didn't read/remember what the Flashy Shot description says.

Flashy shot is still be one of the impractical WS boosting JA due to its recast timer.


Read the top part of my post that you quoted, the part where I say exactly what it does. I'll restate it actually: 10 min recast, 100% enmity reduction, ignores level difference. How is this impractical? You get to use it once per VW battle most likely. Do you even get to use something like sekkanoki more than once or twice per Qilin etc.? It's not the most amazing JA ever and it's ridiculous that two group 2 JAs are so similar, but they could have not changed it at all. Level difference is worthless when you're higher level, but when you're not, you could stand to ignore a large penalty, which is totally worthwhile.
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By Asura.Zaphir 2012-02-05 13:46:00
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Siren.Froggis said: »
100% enmity reduction

Since it's 20% less enmity for each "additional" merit, it would only total 80%. Also, since Flashy Shot increase the enmity of the next attack, I'm reading this more as "5/5 Flashy Shot merits will reduce the additional enmity from Flashy Shot by 80%," meaning it still generates more enmity than a normal attack, which isn't anything like Stealth Shot.
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By Siren.Froggis 2012-02-05 13:51:50
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Asura.Zaphir said: »
Siren.Froggis said: »
100% enmity reduction

Since it's 20% less enmity for each "additional" merit, it would only total 80%. Also, since Flashy Shot increase the enmity of the next attack, I'm reading this more as "5/5 Flashy Shot merits will reduce the additional enmity from Flashy Shot by 80%," meaning it still generates more enmity than a normal attack, which isn't anything like Stealth Shot.


I see.

:/
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By Cerberus.Mystina 2012-02-06 11:48:26
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Asura.Vrytreya said: »
Siren.Froggis said: »
2nd thought edit: I mean, it's really potentially a nice JA now with the 0 enm generation, but I'm a little bitter that I already swapped from 5/5 flashy to 5/5 stealth like 6 mo. ago (not that 22 merits takes long to get).
You most likely didn't read/remember what the Flashy Shot description says.

Flashy shot is still be one of the impractical WS boosting JA due to its recast timer.

Both JAs are useless for that very reason, stealth shot would actually be useful if it wasn't on a 5 minute recast, unless you plan on wsing every 5 minutes when the timer is up, it would have been better if they reduced the recast on stealth instead of flashy.

both are a waste of merits still. oh well.
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