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Empyrean? Which one?
 Leviathan.Goldengreg
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By Leviathan.Goldengreg 2011-08-23 08:32:58
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Wich empyrian is good/shall be priority?

I've check a bit and none of these have +str so I was wondering if full af+3 is a good choice, and if not what are the "good pieces".
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2011-08-23 08:34:46
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huh?

edit: feet/hands are good for magic, body is nice for precast/refresh, legs are amazing for physical. head is for tp/ca?
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By Ragnarok.Hevans 2011-08-23 08:35:25
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for blue mage? hvergelmir.
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2011-08-23 08:36:30
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Almace, too bad it doesnt make the str criteria.
maybe you can use an ukon on blu?
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2011-08-23 08:37:43
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No, get Gambanteinn and bludgeon your enemies to death!
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2011-08-23 08:40:14
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Fenrir.Skarwind said: »
You know what? Just make ToM Macc Swords and use the fullset it's awsome!
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By Leviathan.Goldengreg 2011-08-23 09:58:13
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Ramuh.Lorzy said: »
feet/hands are good for magic, body is nice for precast/refresh, legs are amazing for physical. head is for tp/ca?

Thanks I was wondering a lot about those and wasn't sure every piece was worth getting it.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-08-23 10:02:45
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Every piece is very worth getting.
Head\Legs\Body beeing the most useful, as they'll probably end up beeing a permanent item in your tp sets.
And head is amazing for CA spells, and legs for Efflux spells.
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By Valefor.Sylvr 2011-08-23 10:07:21
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I'm assuming he was asking about +1/2 AF3. All of the pieces are very good, but they each have specific uses (Also, the legs have STR)

For the standard Physical spell-based BLU, the Legs will be your best piece to aim for early followed closely by the Head for the CA boost. Of course, a good TPing set is very close in importance to a spell set, which means that after the head, you should really look toward finishing the body.

The Hands and Feet are amazing for what they do, but that aspect of BLU is often downplayed. Aside from Charged Whisker and Sanguine Blade, you won't really use the Hands and Feet very much, so they should probably be at the bottom of the list.

Overall order for a standard BLU should probably be:

Legs +1> Head +1> Body +1> Legs +2> Head +2> Body +2> Feet +1> Hands
+1 > Feet +2 > Hands +2
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By Leviathan.Goldengreg 2011-08-23 10:08:28
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Valefor.Sylvr said: »
Legs +1> Head +1> Body +1> Legs +2> Head +2> Body +2> Feet +1> Hands
+1 > Feet +2 > Hands +2

Thank you so much for the info!
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By Odin.Brocovich 2011-08-23 10:13:33
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As Galka BLU i can say the 2MP refresh/tic from +2 body are amazing for TP and Idle sets. I also use Body/Head/Legs for TP and legs for almost every spell i use. Hands are good for self-buffs where stats or skill isnt an issue.(recast!) feet are for nukes only (use full set for nukes cause set bonus rocks)
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-08-23 11:38:27
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Leviathan.Goldengreg said: »
Valefor.Sylvr said: »
Legs +1> Head +1> Body +1> Legs +2> Head +2> Body +2> Feet +1> Hands
+1 > Feet +2 > Hands +2

Thank you so much for the info!

I'd put hands+2 before feet+2 tbh, unless you'r gonna CW alot.
The -recast on the hands are really hot for occultation etc
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2011-08-23 11:56:37
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Cerberus.Kvazz said: »
Every piece is very worth getting.
Head\Legs\Body beeing the most useful, as they'll probably end up beeing a permanent item in your tp sets.
And head is amazing for CA spells, and legs for Efflux spells.


Head can be replaced with Zelus(if you don't need acc), and by getting 3 extra haste on your head you can TP in refresh feet or hand with capped haste, and gain 1 extra MP/tick.

Body is replaceable by loki in Abyssea if you're using RR atma, and focus on melee/WS dmg. But you'd need zelus for capped haste.

Legs is replaceable by Ocelot legs if you're soloing/eva tanking and need eva.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-08-23 12:08:51
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Ragnarok.Afania said: »
Head can be replaced with Zelus(if you don't need acc)
not for CA spells
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Body is replaceable by loki in Abyssea if you're using RR atma, and focus on melee/WS dmg. But you'd need zelus for capped haste.
Idle, precast, certain debuffs, acc TP. While you can TP in Loki's, it's not always advisable to; you should be using RR for any situation where you're meleeing anyway so that's not really something to base your choice on.
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Legs is replaceable by Ocelot legs if you're soloing/eva tanking and need eva.
Hi2u every physical spell, debuff, and skill-dependent buff we have?

@OP: not sure what you mean by "not sure if full AF3+2 is a good choice", but if you're asking if each individual piece is worthwhile then yes... if you're asking if it's good to fulltime 5/5 then no, hell no.
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2011-08-23 12:16:12
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Ragnarok.Afania said: »
Head can be replaced with Zelus(if you don't need acc)
not for CA spells
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Body is replaceable by loki in Abyssea if you're using RR atma, and focus on melee/WS dmg. But you'd need zelus for capped haste.
Idle, precast, certain debuffs, acc TP. While you can TP in Loki's, it's not always advisable to; you should be using RR for any situation where you're meleeing anyway so that's not really something to base your choice on.
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Legs is replaceable by Ocelot legs if you're soloing/eva tanking and need eva.
Hi2u every physical spell, debuff, and skill-dependent buff we have?

Oh what I mean is just TP set only, most of the times head/body/legs combo isn't the best for TP unless you need acc, there are situations where you need extra refresh or eva, there are something else that's more optimal, that's what I mean. Of course head is good for CA, legs good for physical/efflux/WS.

Loki also has extra STP to gain TP faster, so if you're focusing on melee/WS dmg and don't need refresh, I don't see what's wrong to use it.
necroskull Necro Bump Detected! [69 days between previous and next post]
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-10-31 13:33:15
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Head/Body/Legs are great for TP. The head is BiS for physicla spells being used with Chain Affinity, legs are BiS for any time you're casting a physical spell or debuff as well as Charged Whisker. Hands and Feet for any magical spell we have.

TPing in Mavi head and body is not 100% ideal, but it's close enough and the alternatives require voidwatch, and are also not always ideal. For almace, I prefer mavi body for the refresh over loki's for TP as I will never be using MM. Is this always ideal? Nah, but it's not bad.


Edit: what the *** how did I manage to make a 69 day necrobump when the thread was just on the front page

I AM A BALLER
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2011-10-31 13:37:01
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Time warp...
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-10-31 13:37:47
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Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Edit: what the *** how did I manage to make a 69 day necrobump when the thread was just on the front page

I AM A BALLER

*evil laugh*
that might've been me.
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By Caitsith.Mahayaya 2011-10-31 13:38:12
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Wow, nice necro bump Prothescar. *glare*

Actually a guy posted before you but he was trying to attack some people so it was rightfully deleted.
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By Bahamut.Krizz 2011-10-31 13:40:24
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:)
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-10-31 13:52:19
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THANKS KRIZZ
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2011-10-31 14:16:37
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Post deleted because I said nice necro bump? O_o

Hell I did apologize for attacking the guy 2 months ago so...

Edit: Maybe it was because I quoted the guy as well though no biggy. This thread just needs to die.

Edit: 1337 Post Count O.O
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