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By Asura.Stryger 2010-07-25 13:22:46
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I just wanted to know what people think about using Perle body to TP in, im not sure its better then Haub.. i dont do all that parsing crap so i cant really do tests myself
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2010-07-25 13:24:10
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Full set
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By Alexander.Temaruma 2010-07-25 13:25:22
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Ifrit.Darkanaseur said:
Full set
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By Asura.Stryger 2010-07-25 13:26:37
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I have Homam set already is only reason i ask
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2010-07-25 13:28:00
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Full set will win unless you really need the acc
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-07-25 13:28:41
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The set beats anything less than an Ebody setup and even then
Ifrit.Darkanaseur said:
Full set will win unless you really need the acc
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By Asura.Stryger 2010-07-25 13:29:47
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kk thx for the info
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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2010-07-25 13:30:10
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Full Perla is a better set than the Hauby/Homam set stat wise, but it depends if you want to look like you came of the conveyor belt like so many others.

Other than that, Hauby/Hauberk NQ has more accuracy then Perle Hauberk. Hauby/Hauberk +1 is no competition in comparison.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-07-25 13:30:48
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Asura.Stryger said:
I have Homam set already is only reason i ask

If you're using "full Homam set" there is something wrong...

Now, if you meant Homam X3(legs, hands, feet) + Walahra Turban + Hauberk +1.... Perle wins.

Perle set has same haste(+14% haste), but more attack, more STR, and only one less acc than Homam X3(legs, hands, feet) + Walahra Turban + Hauberk +1.

Short answer: TP in Full Perle.
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By Asura.Stryger 2010-07-25 13:32:32
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obviously not using full, Feet, Pants, Hands, Haub+1 Turban
I DO have full set tho >_>
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By Ramuh.Kyamiiux 2010-07-25 13:39:42
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Ace's helm wins.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-07-25 13:40:20
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nah, OHat's where it's at!
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By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-07-25 13:42:33
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Just so you can see the comparison: (I had already posted this in another thread)

Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:
Hauberk +1...(and E-body, obviously) is still better for multi-hit Scythe WSs. (like guillotine, specially, which feeds on more attack and accuracy, no crit mods on Guillotine etc.. so the crit+ from perle body also does nothing for Guillotine)

Comparing the stats again...

Full Perle set:

Defense:173

STR:22

DEX:14

VIT:10

Accuracy:18 (it's really 28.5 accuracy, when you add the accuracy from DEX.)

Attack:25 (it's really 41.5 attack, when you add the attack from STR.)

Enmity:4

Critical hit rate:+2%

Haste:+14%

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HomamX3(legs,feet,hands), Walahra Turban, and Hauberk +1:

Defense:119

STR:6

DEX:6

Accuracy:25 (it's really 29.5 accuracy, when you add the accuracy from DEX.)

Attack:12 (it's really 16.5 attack, when you add the attack from STR.)

Enmity:3

HP:107

MP::107

Enhances "Fast Cast" effect

Evasion:-10

Haste:+14%

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Full Perle set is clearly better for TP'ing (meleeing). Nevertheless, HomamX3 (legs,feet,hands) + Turban... should still be better for a Zerg gear set, due to having the same haste, but also has more HP+ for your Souleater zerg.

Then, Homam legs are still good to macro in for some spells, as well as to macro in when casting Utsusemi as /nin etc.
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By Ramuh.Kyamiiux 2010-07-25 13:42:39
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In all seriousness though, if you need accuracy go with homamx3, ace's, haub+1. If not then Perle.
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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2010-07-25 13:47:01
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
nah, OHat's where it's at!

I thought Wyvern Helm was where it's at.
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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2010-07-25 13:47:44
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Ramuh.Kyamiiux said:
In all seriousness though, if you need accuracy go with homamx3, ace's, haub+1. If not then Perle.


I much prefer Ace's Helm and Dusk Gloves +1 tbh lol.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-07-25 13:50:16
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Ace's helm is very situational these days...
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By Ramuh.Kyamiiux 2010-07-25 13:52:24
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Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:
Ace's helm is very situational these days...

I don't want this to turn into another Ace's helm thread, but I still don't see how 7 acc is situational.
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By Carbuncle.Virtuosus 2010-07-25 13:55:02
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panther mask +1
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-07-25 13:55:05
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Ramuh.Kyamiiux said:
Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:
Ace's helm is very situational these days...

I don't want this to turn into another Ace's helm thread, but I still don't see how 7 acc is situational.
Because it's not 7 acc vs nothing. That's why it's situational. It's 7 acc vs haste.

What you just said makes as much sense as comparing toreador's ring to nothing. Well I don't see how the 7 acc is situational seeing as I didn't bother to compare it to anything!
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By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-07-25 13:55:31
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Ramuh.Kyamiiux said:
Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:
Ace's helm is very situational these days...

I don't want this to turn into another Ace's helm thread, but I still don't see how 7 acc is situational.

If you're capping your hit rate on whatever mob/mobs you're currently fighting, then the +7 accuracy is doing nothing... in which case +1% haste > +4STR. It is situational.

Edit: gah.. well Tiger beat me to it.
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-07-25 13:56:46
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I know it's very rough math, but based on the fact that adding 10% Haste from Haste Samba gives you a 50% attack speed increase in otherwise-capped haste situations, swapping Turban for Ace's Helm slows you down by roughly 10%, while +7 ACC only gives you the +3.5% hit rate.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-07-25 13:59:15
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Siren.Enternius said:
I know it's very rough math, but based on the fact that adding 10% Haste from Haste Samba gives you a 50% attack speed increase in otherwise-capped haste situations, swapping Turban for Ace's Helm slows you down by roughly 10%, while +7 ACC only gives you the +3.5% hit rate.
Rough math? How about dead wrong math. Horribly wrong. You weren't even on the same ball field with this one.

80% haste is the hard cap, even going from 79 to 80% won't give you anywhere near 10% increase from 1% haste

1/(100-80) = 1/20 = 5%, a 5% increase in speed. Don't see where you got -1% haste to slow you down 10%

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By Quetzalcoatl.Trauma 2010-07-25 14:04:08
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Obtaining Dusk Gloves +1 or Timarli Dastanas easily puts Homam legs, hands and feet plus Hauberk +1 and Walahra Turban back on top. Ace's hose is another option that ruins a Perle setup if you want that extra haste and can deal with -10 acc.

This is a good set for the average DRK but saying that this is the best to TP in is insane.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-07-25 14:06:51
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Quetzalcoatl.Trauma said:
Obtaining Dusk Gloves +1 or Timarli Dastanas easily puts Homam legs, hands and feet plus Hauberk +1 and Walahra Turban back on top. Ace's hose is another option that ruins a Perle setup if you want that extra haste and can deal with -10 acc.

This is a good set for the average DRK but saying that this is the best to TP in is insane.
Nobody said it was the best, but it is far better than average, unless you consider people walking around with dusk gloves+1 average.

Basically, if your set doesn't have more haste than full perle, use full perle
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By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-07-25 14:23:50
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Also the fact that adding more haste is even better the more haste you already have on you. (since haste is a direct decrease to your weapon delay, without affecting your TP per hit)

Then with things like Marinara pizza/Marinara Pizza+1, merits, good gear, Diabolic eye, hasso etc... chances are you won't be missing that +7acc from Ace's helm, and then the extra haste from Walahra Turban will be better still.

Again, Ace's helm is very situational these days...


Also, I agree with Tigerwoods, nobody is saying that Perle set is the best out there;however, it will be the best option for most people. Full Perle set is better than HomamX3 + Turban + Hauberk+1. That in my book makes full perle set above average and the best option "for most people." (full Perle set is better for people who don't have E-body + Dusk gloves+1 etc..)

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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2010-07-25 14:31:44
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Even Ebody falls behind when accuracy is capped. So yeah, Ace's on DRK is pretty useless.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-07-25 14:37:00
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Yeah, HomamX3 + Turban + E-body still has less attack, less STR etc. than Full Perle, though the HomamX3 + Turban + E-body has +7 more accuracy.

If you don't need the extra +7accuracy, then Full perle set is still better than E-body + turban + homamX3. (this changes if the mix/match gear with E-body also includes Dusk gloves+1)
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2010-07-25 14:42:14
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Yeah, Perle gear is stupid strong for the investment, and the reason why I don't play DRK anymore.


I'll go to Events on SCH or BST before I go looking like a *** Mormon in celestial garments.
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By Gilgamesh.Samuraiking 2010-07-25 14:49:54
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Odin.Zicdeh said:
Yeah, Perle gear is stupid strong for the investment, and the reason why I don't play DRK anymore.


I'll go to Events on SCH or BST before I go looking like a *** Mormon in celestial garments.

lolz. I still walk around in my Ebody and ***and just swap into full perle right before I start fighting. it sucks, but it's one of my strongest DDs... the extra atk is nice since I got plaga's scythe with higher base than usual.

I'm trying to go more THF though, even doing magians. :/
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