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 Bahamut.Bojack
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By Bahamut.Bojack 2009-01-05 00:11:12
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Can a Nin/dnc solo King Arthro and kill it before rage mode?
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By Midgardsormr.Acropora 2009-01-05 01:10:08
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Not sure if you'd be able to do enough DMG, but I've never tried or witnessed, you might could duo it if you were in a ton of haste gear... hmm~
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By Bahamut.Danagon 2009-01-05 04:16:32
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imo not enough DMG happened if got a SAM to help then hell yeah
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By Garuda.Wooooodum 2009-01-05 05:05:59
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Seen it done by a very notoriously good Ninja on our server, with very respectable gear and Kikoku. Don't know about even "the near best" Ninjas though, he took 22 minutes to kill.
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By Cerberus.Toabea 2009-01-05 05:07:54
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One of the NIN's on our LS was talking about this yesterday, apparently with the right gear, a NIN can solo him in about 17 Mins which is before the rage timer goes off. This is just what he said though, I personally have no idea because I'm a mage lol =P
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By Pandemonium.Knightofdragons 2009-01-05 08:22:58
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Yes a decent gear'd Nin can Solo this its Soloable by mulitable jobs, Inc Sam Rdm Mnk
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By Cerberus.Saiya 2009-01-05 09:52:59
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Agreed, a WHM/NIN in my LS solos it on a regular basis (when he can get claim =p lol)
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2009-01-05 10:22:27
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no.

Basically, for the MOST part, impossible to solo, outside of using medications (hi-potions, etc) as well as your NPC, as a high-damaging job (Warrior, Monk, Dark Knight, Samurai, Dragoon... possibly Blue Mage?).
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By Cerberus.Saiya 2009-01-05 10:26:38
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The NIN I was referring too isn't what you'd call a heavy DD. Also reading the comments above it seems several people agree that you can. If you were to theoretically multiply this to a game-wide estimate, I'd say that saying "It is, for the most part, impossible" would be grossly inaccurate?

Also, typo above, a NIN/WHM, not a WHM/NIN sorry ^^;
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By Siren.Bungie 2009-01-05 10:34:54
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ive seen with my own eyes a jp thf almost primely geared minus a relic solo KA with an npc. I wanna say he used blau+rdl.

regaurdless thf is far from the best damage in comparison to other jobs, so i wouldnt be surprised if a farily well geared NIN with some skill could pull it off.
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By Bismarck.Nours 2009-01-05 11:00:19
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Seen a lot of people solo it, usually NINs, SAMs, THFs. Some without NPC.

It's not that hard, 35000 HP is joke... only problem is dispelling and the occasionnal para you may get.
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By Pandemonium.Maxx 2009-01-06 23:17:36
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Yes, a good NIN/DNC can kill KA, won't be easy but it has been done before. Gear and luck allowing of course.
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By Garuda.Fishheadman 2009-01-07 00:21:39
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Is guilly any good on this here crab? and how hard does he hit lol.
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2009-01-07 00:22:16
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Bungie said:
ive seen with my own eyes a jp thf almost primely geared minus a relic solo KA with an npc. I wanna say he used blau+rdl.


THF/NIN, outclaiming everybody... yeah that's some luck right there. And 35,000 HP, without the defense boost dispelled?

For a commoner, example, that would begin a thread such as this... I wouldn't count on them being able to solo it as Ninja. /WAR with an NPC sounds alot more realistic, but /DNC restricts you almost entirely for the most part.

Impossible is perhaps an overstatement, but hence, "for the most part".
Wooooodum said:
Seen it done by a very notoriously good Ninja on our server, with very respectable gear and Kikoku. Don't know about even "the near best" Ninjas though, he took 22 minutes to kill.

--Somewhat helps grasp the concept, I'd say, although:
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Scissor Guard - Defense Up (+100% defense boost) Overwrites and is overwritten by 'Defense Down' effect from Acid Bolts.

Can explain how a Thief can do it, atleast.

Edit: To the above, ehh... hits for about 70~ (Protect IV, no serious defense equipment put on though), but I'd imagine would be slightly more accurate on non-far Eastern jobs (or Thieves). Guillotine though, without the defense boost against you, ROUGHLY off the top of my head (when geared atleast correctly) would be about 700~?
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By Pandemonium.Liquidz 2009-01-07 02:38:17
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Ironguy said:


THF/NIN, outclaiming everybody... yeah that's some luck right there.


Me and some other thf's I know have good claim rate on KA as THF/NIN and that include some claims in very crowded moment. Do not underestimate flee+mug, especially at KA. And when we claim we get 2-3k gils right at start to cover our acid bolts and meat food. ^^
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By Pandemonium.Knightofdragons 2009-01-07 03:16:13
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Take Note: KA is lv55, Kuf Crabs are Lv60-62!
just posted that 2 give a prospective of the differnce!

His Acc is sh!t (1/6hits?+-)
His Att is sh!t(50dmg+- exc, counterstance)
His -ga's only deal around 100-200dmg(99%oftime) i can't remember what i was taken'ing last time!

MNK wouldnt have any problem with few Hi-Pots, to Solo KA HP Wise untill Rage, Counterstance+Dodge Would Make mnk almost take no Dmg other than the small dmg -ga's he does, witch can be countered with a well gear'd Charka Mnk for 300hp(+-) +200Hp(+-)Regen from it!(merit based)
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By Bismarck.Mafai 2009-01-07 08:33:00
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Ironguy said:
THF/NIN, outclaiming everybody... yeah that's some luck right there. And 35,000 HP, without the defense boost dispelled?


THF can dispel with acid bolts.
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2009-01-07 09:48:13
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Mafai said:
Ironguy said:
THF/NIN, outclaiming everybody... yeah that's some luck right there. And 35,000 HP, without the defense boost dispelled?


THF can dispel with acid bolts.


Someone isn't a fan of reading, are they.

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Me and some other thf's I know have good claim rate on KA as THF/NIN and that include some claims in very crowded moment. Do not underestimate flee+mug, especially at KA. And when we claim we get 2-3k gils right at start to cover our acid bolts and meat food. ^^


Oh, I don't doubt you could claim with Steal or Mug at times, but you'd have to have it spawn within arms' reach of you basically. That, is something that doesn't always happen. Heck, even Provoke/Animated Flourish isn't enough sometimes (due to popping in the left or right pocket near the water, out of range unless you scram over there in time).
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By Seraph.Zavala 2009-01-07 09:53:31
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Before i got my V-Belt i soloed KA on my MNK/NIN with NPC set as soothing healer. First time it took around 19 min, next two times it landed around 15 min. If you are unlucky though u get claim on a watersday, which makes his waterga spells do way more dmg if he gets u with shadows down. (Should be mentioned my MNK isn't uber geared, well equiped but still not super, imo.)

I've seen some Nin/Dnc try soloin him, but they died at around 40% due to rage mode.
I'm not sayin Nin/Dnc or Thf/Nin with Npc cant solo. but as people mentioned above, they must be really good equiped + merits to be able to do it.
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By Titan.Exhile 2009-01-07 11:09:00
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All you have to have is a DECENTLY geared Ninja, and all you need is haste.
I duoed with my Ninja, which is gear pretty well, and my alt. Rdm.
I only used the Rdm to Put haste on me.
Other than that i soloed it.
It's really not too bad.
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By Seraph.Bulleta 2009-12-05 17:47:07
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Bismarck.Mafai said:
Ironguy said:
THF/NIN, outclaiming everybody... yeah that's some luck right there. And 35,000 HP, without the defense boost dispelled?

THF can dispel with acid bolts.

Did we forget about Aura Steal? XD

To say that it is impossible for thf to solo King Arthro is very debatable.

Average player ~> Impossible
Decent player ~> Possible

But this thread was about NIN/DNC <.<

I've solo'd KA without a NPC as NIN/DNC so it can be done.

I've never tried it as thf.

Shouldn't be too hard for someone who can solo Serket as THF.

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By Seraph.Corleonis 2009-12-05 19:00:51
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Holy @#$%ing necro bump O_o
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2009-12-05 20:45:11
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I look back on this thread just now due to recent topics, to realize what I said originally was mostly clueless, but that was also a good year ago apparently, and I've witnessed many more random job combos kill with awkward equipment.

I wouldn't expect a mediocre Thief to solo the thing, but with an NPC they'd at least be very close, and a THF/WAR with a Ridill spamming Vorpal Blade can (and will) smash it.

Let's just say, if you ever wanted to camp this thing, leveling your NPC just exclusively for it is a good idea, since it most likely frees up your support job (NIN/DNC can go NIN/WAR instead, example). Still, for how good of an item it drops, I kind of wish it were a little bit harder to kill at least.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-12-05 20:53:52
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How are all your guys npcs making such a difference? Mine is like 68 and runs out of mp faster than I would as a thf/sch!!! Hell thing runs out of mp even when I refresh it.
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2009-12-05 20:56:28
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I have no idea; I've never had a problem with mine running out of MP unless I was getting murder-raped by something pretty much (in-turn sinking MP like nobody's business).
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-12-05 20:58:50
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Lol hell even when I'm purposefully keeping my hp high the occasional dip murders my npcs mp. Partly cause the damn thing likes to constantly buff/debuff. Need to give it autorefresh or something.

Then again I don't like resting so maybe I just need to rest every 3-4 fights I guess. Or kill it off and smn a new one lol
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By Bahamut.Satanas 2009-12-05 21:37:56
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use a tactics pearl, when its out of mp just let it go and cast it back in, it will have full mp again.
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By Bahamut.Stanflame 2009-12-05 23:31:47
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LOL know whats funny this thread is old and got bumped, but when I do it I get called out by some sped of a retard named dracondria.

Get off my ball sack bro... I think you are too attached to them.
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By Bahamut.Dracondria 2009-12-06 01:56:28
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The difference is you posted something extremely HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE whereas Bulleta posted information about THF solo. No one gives a ***about the salvage bans anymore and posting in a thread about it saying "that's too bad" is HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE.
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By Bahamut.Stanflame 2009-12-06 02:07:26
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No there is not a difference, ^^b so again go *** your self. what you said went out my left ear and through my right.

KV can be soloed by thf well trust me when I say this, one of my dreams of doing.

Oh also idiot. did you know she is a troll that no one likes also? or do you feel stupid. as dumb as you are I did not make a comment ab out here in this thread, so there you have it.. you are the one starting ***with me. So again get off my Nuts I do not go that way.
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