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By Alexander.Tidusblitz 2010-05-11 01:15:04
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pretty straightforward question, Aesir Ear Pendant or Bushinomimi for spinning slash?
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By Leviathan.Abriel 2010-05-11 01:17:58
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I'd be more inclined to go with the str option, though high amounts of atk do help on higher def mobs and the thought of getting some decent tp return would be nice, but I don't think the activation rate would be too high.
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By Alexander.Tidusblitz 2010-05-11 01:19:19
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The activation rate isnt bad, i have nightfall too. So sometimes ill use a WS and come up with 30 TP
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-05-11 01:20:42
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The action rate is horrible. Don't be fooled.
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By Alexander.Tidusblitz 2010-05-11 01:21:28
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i would assume +3 is 3% and +6 is....7%
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By Leviathan.Abriel 2010-05-11 01:21:45
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only 30? I don't think that's enough to shave a hit off your x-hit build, unless you're using a 444 delay GS sadly =/
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By Alexander.Tidusblitz 2010-05-11 01:22:13
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nightfall is 444 delay lol
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-05-11 01:22:57
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Yes, 3%. aka, horrible. WS 100 times, 3 of them would have proceed(on average).
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By Alexander.Tidusblitz 2010-05-11 01:23:43
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But it does have att+7 too, so what im asking is the 3% coupled with att+7 worth sacrificing 2 str?
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By Leviathan.Abriel 2010-05-11 01:24:44
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hmm, hard to say if it's worth it w/o knowing the exact activation rate then. in longer fights it could possibly pull ahead of the gaurenteed dmg from the +str.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Volkom 2010-05-11 01:26:08
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augment triumph earring with 4 str go go go
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By Seraph.Rafik 2010-05-11 01:29:18
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Go with bushi

People use heca harness over haub+1 for spinning slash for a reason

Plus being on drk your attack should already be high.

I use Naglering, took me forever to get... Kept losing lots when it went free lot to lv zero drks... Used 2of my own pops.
1/30 if not higher <.<
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By Alexander.Tidusblitz 2010-05-11 01:31:03
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http://www.ffxiah.com/item_sets.php?id=155980 here is my drk WS set minus an earring. I know i need to fix aurum feet, but /not going back to sky. And i dont post on here much, so i dont know how to embed it.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-05-11 01:32:35
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Well use your points then or set it to priority or w/e system your shell uses. Absolutely 0 reason to complain about losing a free lot. You probably let it go free lot because you didn't want to use points or w/e your ls' system is for drops.
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By Seraph.Rafik 2010-05-11 01:34:10
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Rutter Sabatons if you dont want to do sky, drop rate sucks

I personally use Black Cuisses over arum and alk bracelets if you can get those.
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By Alexander.Tidusblitz 2010-05-11 01:35:21
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oh yea i have rutters too....didnt even think about those.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2010-05-11 01:35:25
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Toss the hands right away, INT is a Spinning Slash mod. Grab some gigas bracelets. Get some Black Cuisses as well.

Edit: Damn you Rafik
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By Leviathan.Abriel 2010-05-11 01:35:31
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if anything, I'd swap those aurum cuisses for black/onyx and swap the mufflers for alky.'s/pallas's (shouldn't need any acc gear for 1-hit WSs). right now the earring could go either way, but if you get a higher delay GS a str earring will definitely benefit you more.
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By Seraph.Rafik 2010-05-11 01:35:44
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Well use your points then or set it to priority or w/e system your shell uses. Absolutely 0 reason to complain about losing a free lot. You probably let it go free lot because you didn't want to use points or w/e your ls' system is for drops.

it was a znm ls but we didnt get points for coming <.<

I didn't miss one event but yeah people are greedy. Never lotted anything that I couldnt use.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2010-05-11 01:37:05
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ZNMs you can always shout for and you can lock whatever you want so no reason to lose lots on items.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Volkom 2010-05-11 01:37:34
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my pisspoor greatsword ws build :P
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By Seraph.Rafik 2010-05-11 01:41:01
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I said f that znm ls, went back with friends and got arum feet and that great sword. Thanks to muffin/az and everyone in epidemic. People popped their ***and seem to disappear after in that ls. Everyone was for themselves. People came out of nowhere and lotted stuff, that were not even in the ls and some did not even help kill a dam thing.
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By Phoenix.Miraun 2010-05-11 05:57:02
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I'm pretty sure Spinning slash has an increase Cratio and/or PDIF, similar to SAM GYK... so I'd go with the straight STR.
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By Valefor.Argettio 2010-05-11 06:16:09
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Phoenix.Miraun said:
I'm pretty sure Spinning slash has an increase Cratio and/or PDIF, similar to SAM GYK... so I'd go with the straight STR.

It does, although not as high as Gekko.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-05-11 11:55:48
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Spinning Slash appears to have a ~50% Cratio bonus, and Ground Strike appears to have a ~75% Cratio bonus (Though of course Spnning slash is still usually the better WS between those two (Spinning slash has higher ftp etc.), unless for some reason you have stored 300%TP, or 200%TP with a Martial GS..then Ground Strike is pretty good as well. (100%TP spinning slashes are better than saving TP, of course.)

As for Y/G/K for GK SAM...IIRC, Tachi: yuki appeared to have a ~50% Cratio bonus, Tachi: Kasha appeared to have a ~70% Cratio bonus, and Tachi: Gekko appeared to have an ~100% Cratio bonus, according to some tests on BG.

I think Steel Cyclone also has a Cratio bonus, but I'm not sure of the amount.
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By Leviathan.Abriel 2010-05-11 16:29:25
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steel cyclone gets the same bonus as ground strike if I remember right (too early to be looking ***up atm, lol). but, this is why I mentioned that having high amounts of atk can some times edge out low amounts of str in cases where the enemy has high def, the enemy and outside buffs you get are the determining factors in which gear becomes 'better' (though in cases where you're getting outside atk buffs scythe usually beats GS). this would be the reason ppl will sometimes recommend smilodon mantle over forager's, certain sachets over bomb core, and some times atk over str earrings.

I almost forgot to mention that using another damage mod earring over brutal for spinning slash is also a good idea (unless you need the stp for x-hit build). this is because you most likely won't have the acc to land a double attack proc. if it does occur (it's pretty much like auto-attacking w/o any acc gear on, with a 5% chance of an extra attack to begin with. it can happen, but the frequency is abysmally low).
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-05-11 16:34:27
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Just checked your gear; definitely don't WS in Adaman Mufflers. They have -10INT and Spinning Slash has a 30% INT mod.
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