Night Time (US Time) Merc Service

Real drama or fake? I can't tell lol

Well if you're happy with VD money then go for it, not like it's my gil. But there's a reason why merc is a more popular gil making method with 400 million advertisement threads.

I didn't say I was happy with it lol but I do what I am capable of.

Floppy too much hassles on that v body. I rather just have someone poke me when they have a v body in pool and just pay the 5 million. It might cost me more Gil and time wasted for trying to get it. I'm not lazy, just trying to be efficient. Lol

I would also like a anofta kaften from virava for 6 million. Lol

It is easy, but I might end up costing me 5 million or more anyway lol

The cost of pops (or most of the cost) is easily recouped from the eschite ores and +2s it drops. It should cost you far less than 5m to farm the pop. In fact, depending on drops, you could profit from farming it.

According to his post, with his gil farming speed which is 3m per hr with 2 char, it needs less than 2 hr of work to buy drops for 5m.

To get drop with his ls without paying any gil, he needs to:

1.Get 1 person to get his char into delve2 zones, possibly pay for that person.

2.Dualbox delve 2 clear 5 times for 5 pops.

3.Abuse tell to lsmate asking for help, 90% of time people will probably say "Sure I'll help after this salvage/ambuscade/VW/whatever" In the end he would wait for hours.

4. Shout for whatever jobs that he can't get from ls, if his lsmate aren't helping.

Idk about you but I don't see how it's possible to do step 1 to 4 in less than 2hr.

Wait what? Lol

This was my thought. Sign on join ambuscade. Get a poke saying we have v body in treasure pool. Warp there pay 5 million continue ambuscade. Done.

Ideally lsmates should help each other for free, but in reality it doesn't always work that way in FFXI.

1.In some ls not every members know each others well enough to offer help for free. Those who need help would ask for help and got answers like "Sure I'll help after salvage/whatever that I'm doing". They will never say no, but they will also be reluctant to come without compensation that's competitive to alternative gil making method.

2.The leaders will be more active to help, because it's their ls. But leaders have their limit and they can't really help everyone.

The result is, the members that's behind in terms of gears would ask for help, get no reply from other members because they're busy doing salvage VW whatever, while leaders busy helping other members and unable to take care of everyone. The members that needs help ended up waiting for days or even weeks to get one piece of gear, unable to catch up.

Then you get a ls with huge gap in terms of progress. You get some members that are T4 ready and some people still needs NQ amaric because they can't get gears fast enough.

Result:Those members with more progress play together, those who are behind are left out. In the end you get a ls with members just wear same pearls but not functioning as a team, just because some people aren't gearing fast enough.

I agree that there are numbers of variables that one way may be more efficient than another. If getting with ls is more efficient then go for it, if paying for gear is more efficient then pay for it.

But you don't have to hijack everyones thread tell people don't buy gears because you hand out free gears. If people can get free gears efficiently they would never pay, but that's not the case.

And you only look like a troll by telling people "don't pay because I hand out free gears, you're just impatient and lazy". People choose to pay for a reason. Who would like others tell them that you make a lazy and dumb choice by paying for gears?

Can you come up with a solution to get members that are behind catch up faster then?

I think ambuscade before the new reset is a little more important then v body at this point. I mean if I see a good shout (pakacet, virava, Sarama) I would join. But only shout at 9:30pm eastern plus (time I get on) I need are ambuscades. Back at bahamut I gave away a v body to linkshell people who came.

And back at bahamut I tried to help linkshell get gears n stuff while trying to further myself in my limited play time and one day got called that I'm selfish n crap and never again. It's tough being a linkshell leader. I feel u floppy.

I agree with everything you said about having an alternative choice(which is nice), just wanted to point out that you have a pretty long history of attacking merc on forums and implying buyers are lazy :p

The real victims are me and Bry because we get dragged into spicy's "free gear" campaign :|

I support you and wish you good luck Lady, I'll miss your random spats with spicy in LS now that you're gone :I

Merc work sure keeps getting more complicated. We have gone beyond throw gil and get shinies to how can I get an item without feeling empty and losing face amongst my peers.

I don't know, I can't say. Becoming friends in FFXI has complex factors behind it, and it's more than "you can be friends if you help/get help for free". People are more likely to become friends with common goals and progress. If you have an entire LS working towards same goal, they're more likely to become friends.

Back then I've seen LS that was created for offering merc services. You pay ls members to get gears, and get paid for helping with merc services. I wasn't in the ls, but from what I've seen and heard, they built a pretty strong community because every members had the same goal which is to make gil, with high event attendance rate.

On the otherhand, the ls advertised themselves as "helpful ls" often has 2-3 members that actively helps each other, resulting every member play with their own groups because everyone has different gear progress and different goals.

You may think it's "greed" to ask for money, but it's not. Ninja lotting or stealing ls bank is greed because that's getting more stuff than deserved, offering services for a reasonable price isn't.

If you believe your way could build a better community then by all means go for it though. I could write pages and pages of Essay about how to manage people and build a better team, but it's a game so let's not get too serious.

Not always. I may have simply been terribly unlucky but I did 13 pops of Pakecet this morning. 800k a pop, got 13 +2's and 2 ores. Assuming the +2's sell for 300k (market is flooded so kinda betting it goes down below that for a while) and ore sells for the current high of 700k that gives me 5.3mil to pay for the 10.4mil in pop cost. Thankfully I sold a venerian body, so I didn't really lose gil, but it basically wasn't worth it.

Also Spicy, you can say you're the "free competition" but I've merc'd for LS members of yours who when I was in the LS I had seen ask for help and never got it. You may be a rather generous player but you cannot take care of everyone in your LS, much less the server.

Lady, if u do pakacet again I need a v body for 5 million. It's a night merc so in on at night lol. And a anofta kaften from virava 8 million pls. That's a hard one to merc as I don't think people need the other crap from him.

I still need the Kaftan so my buddy and I might go see if we can handle doing it, and might add it to our services when we're both around.

But...I don't know your in-game character name, heh.

Sorry, Merc-client privilege, I will not give out that name.

Foreverj lol

Ah, since you had recently posted I thought you'd be online, but you're not. And I don't recall seeing that name around either, so thought you were posting on a mule name or something. I'll keep you in mind.