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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-01-24 19:36:12
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Texas eighth-grader suspended for rescuing classmate during asthma attack
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Anthony Ruelas watched for what seemed like an eternity as his classmate wheezed and gagged in a desperate struggle to breathe.

The girl told classmates that she was having an asthma attack, but her teacher refused to let anyone leave the classroom, according to NBC affiliate KCEN. Instead, the teacher emailed the school nurse and waited for a reply, telling students to stay calm and remain in their seats.

When the student having the asthma attack fell out of her chair several minutes later, Ruelas decided he couldn’t take it anymore and took action.

“We ain’t got time to wait for no email from the nurse,” a teacher’s report quotes him as saying, according to Fox News Latino.

And with that, the 15-year-old Gateway Middle School student carried his stricken classmate to the nurse’s office, violating his teacher’s orders.

The teenager later texted Ruelas to let him know she was fine, according to KWTX, but that didn’t stop school officials at the alternative school in the Killeen Independent School District from punishing him. Ruelas was written up by his teacher and eventually suspended for two days, according to KCEN.

“I was like what?” Ruelas told the station. “I’m suspended for this? Like, I was trying to help her.”

A teacher’s report documenting the incident appears to correspond with Ruelas’s version of what transpired:

“During 5th period another student complained that she couldn’t breathe and was having an asthma attack,” the report states. “As I waited for a response from the nurse, the student fell out of her chair to the floor. Anthony proceeded to go over and pick her up, saying ‘f—k that, we ain’t got time to wait for no email from the nurse.’ He walks out of class and carries the other student to the nurse.”

Mandy Cortes, Ruelas’s mother, told KCEN that she assumed her son — who has been suspended in the past — was to blame when the school informed her that he had been suspended again.

“I wasn’t trying to hear it,” she said. “I was like, ‘No, they already told me what happened — you walked out of class.’ And he was like ‘Okay, forget it.’ But I can tell — you know, you know your kids — I could tell he was upset.”

Cortes told KCEN that when she found out what prompted her son to walk out of class, she was proud of him but frustrated by the school’s response.
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By Shiva.Eightball 2016-01-24 20:01:06
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this is not about texas it's about how poorly schools all over operate, the teacher was willing to just let her sit there while waiting for an email....
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By Phoenix.Gaiarorshack 2016-01-24 20:03:55
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Jokes aside this is pretty darn a seriously F#ck up on the school's behalf.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Trulusia 2016-01-24 20:05:46
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This should be interesting in it's development, I imagine. I wonder what the girl's parents thought knowing that the school system actively prevented their daughter from getting immediate medical help.
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By Altimaomega 2016-01-24 20:11:00
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
The girl told classmates that she was having an asthma attack, but her teacher refused to let anyone leave the classroom, according to NBC affiliate KCEN. Instead, the teacher emailed the school nurse and waited for a reply, telling students to stay calm and remain in their seats.

When the student having the asthma attack fell out of her chair several minutes later, Ruelas decided he couldn’t take it anymore and took action. And with that, the 15-year-old Gateway Middle School student carried his stricken classmate to the nurse’s office, violating his teacher’s orders.

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Washington Post. Which is liberal

Interesting a Liberal source is reporting on Liberal zombies.
Good thing a free thinking individual was around. But we can't have that! Suspended!
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2016-01-24 20:25:37
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Killeen is a cesspool, I don't know why anyone not in the Army would choose to live there.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-01-24 21:37:36
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Alti she wasn't a zombie. Yet.

Free thinking? I thought you were against free thinking.
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By Altimaomega 2016-01-24 21:55:10
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Alti she wasn't a zombie. Yet.

Free thinking? I thought you were against free thinking.

Are you trying to be sarcastic.. I can't tell..
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By Yatenkou 2016-01-24 22:56:36
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To keep the thread on topic. I hope the parents of the girl push to get that teacher fired.

As for the teacher's testimony, I highly doubt the kid actually dropped the F-Bomb even with the situation, and that the teacher was trying to act like they were justified.

But on another note, did the girl have an inhaler or anything to make sure she didn't suffer the asthma attack? She and her family had to know if she had asthma as she was able to easily state she was having an asthma attack. I'm speaking from experience, I had to have an inhaler back when I was in school, I kept it in my backpack at all times.
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By Jetackuu 2016-01-24 23:31:38
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Due to abuse they're probably kept in the nurse's office with the other medication now. Not sure on Texas' (or in this case private) rules.

It's nice to see a private institution derp as hard as a public one though. edit: I read this days ago, way to be slow Chanti.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2016-01-25 04:20:02
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Sucks when common sense (carrying an inhaler with you at all times if that's going to happen) is trumped by policy. Times have definitely changed as I remember kids having inhalers with them during middle and high school. I'm not sure how you would abuse them, but it seems too risky to leave them with the nurse.
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By Asura.Chiaia 2016-01-25 04:39:27
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I can't believe they locked up the inhaler to start with but what blows my mind is that you got to email the nurse. Phones only and damn the school should have a intercom system just in case they step out of their office or at least have the nurse carry a mobile or pager if the school doesn't have one. Yes medical people still use these all over the country, quite reliable compared to cell coverage.

Then there is the kid that got suspended wow. He fixes problem A & B only to get screwed.
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By Siren.Mosin 2016-01-25 07:21:26
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Clickbait much? People are HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE everywhere, the issue is not confined to texas...
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By Ramyrez 2016-01-25 07:43:48
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I'll rag on Texas as much as the next clown looking for a cheap laugh but yeah. This is the kind of ***that happens everywhere, across all political spectrums.

We live in a society that is painfully litigious. Not only can you get punished for doing the wrong thing while trying to help someone, you can get punished for doing the right thing, if someone thinks they can get money out of it.

Teachers have to decide in a split second what's best for that student. What's best for 23 others students in the class. What's safest for everyone involved. What won't cost him/her their job, what won't upset the parents (because it may be different from what the actual right thing to do is), and a dozen other particularities that are easy to judge in hindsight.

And it's a private school, so they're not (I think, I could be wrong) required to have licensed teachers with certifications required of public school teachers.

It's a sad state of affairs, but that's the cost of freedom, I guess? Our legal system is good, but it's not perfect, and the ability to sue anyone for pretty much anything is a major player in today's world.

It's why there's a twenty-page EULA to play *** Candy Crush, ffs.
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By Rooks 2016-01-25 08:00:17
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I've altered the vague, clickbaity title. Don't make vague, clickbaity titles. I've also moved it to the P+R section, because of the sorts of discussions it is likely to start.

And yes, crap like this happens all the time, everywhere. Texas is not unique here, and probably not even the worst offender.
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By Jetackuu 2016-01-25 08:03:57
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Asura.Chiaia said: »
locked up the inhaler to start with
It was pure speculation, we don't even know if there was one.
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By Jetackuu 2016-01-25 08:05:54
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Sucks when common sense (carrying an inhaler with you at all times if that's going to happen) is trumped by policy. Times have definitely changed as I remember kids having inhalers with them during middle and high school. I'm not sure how you would abuse them, but it seems too risky to leave them with the nurse.

That's why "common sense" is a misnomer and purely subjective.

For some it would make sense for the child to carry the medicine they need, for others it makes sense to have somebody dedicated to administer medicine to all of the students.

As for the abuse, idk ask my sister but she's done it.
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By Bismarck.Magnuss 2016-01-25 08:07:02
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Ramyrez said: »
23 others students
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By Ramyrez 2016-01-25 08:14:27
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Bismarck.Magnuss said: »
Ramyrez said: »
23 others students

Yes, yes. I know, I know. And I do not begrudge you your moment of mirth.

But as a national average I believe it still hovers around 24 students per class. I know how averages work and I know it varies wildly. But work with me here.

Edit: That .gif is pretty great though, so props for that.
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By Ramyrez 2016-01-25 08:17:37
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Jetackuu said: »
As for the abuse, idk ask my sister but she's done it.

If there's one thing people in Appalachia know how to do, it's get high off of things at the grocery store.
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By Anna Ruthven 2016-01-25 08:32:06
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Jetackuu said: »
Due to abuse they're probably kept in the nurse's office with the other medication now. Not sure on Texas' (or in this case private) rules.

It's nice to see a private institution derp as hard as a public one though. edit: I read this days ago, way to be slow Chanti.
Due to messed up sinuses I carry nasal spray on me at all times, back in high school, I carried it but went to the bathroom to use it. Nasal spray is more of a comfort thing rather than life saving thing but if someone tried to take it away to be locked in the nurse's office, they'd be politely told to go *** themselves.

My girlfriend and a few friends had Asthma and all had inhalers on them.
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By Ramyrez 2016-01-25 08:37:14
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Anna Ruthven said: »
Due to messed up sinuses I carry nasal spray on me at all times, back in high school, I carried it but went to the bathroom to use it. Nasal spray is more of a comfort thing rather than life saving thing but if someone tried to take it away to be locked in the nurse's office, they'd be politely told to go *** themselves.

Nasal spray is a must when I have a cold or when my sinuses are bothering me and anyone who tries to take it will die.

Anna Ruthven said: »
My girlfriend and a few friends had Asthma and all had inhalers on them.

My wife used to have an OTC inhaler she kept around but she didn't have any asthma issues for a long time. Recently she had a bit of a flare up and when I asked the pharmacist where they were she laughed at me and said they don't sell OTC inhalers anymore and haven't "for a long time."

I did not know this. Don't know why even, I assume it's an abuse issue of some sort as they sell oral Primatine now? Eh, I dunno.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-01-25 09:29:47
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Rooks said: »
I've altered the vague, clickbaity title. Don't make vague, clickbaity titles. I've also moved it to the P+R section, because of the sorts of discussions it is likely to start.

And yes, crap like this happens all the time, everywhere. Texas is not unique here, and probably not even the worst offender.
Thanks for the title edit. I didn't like the orignal one myself but couldn't come up with better.

And it isn't about either politics or religon, its about a hero kid and a stupid school.

Ramyrez said: »
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And it's a private school, so they're not (I think, I could be wrong) required to have licensed teachers with certifications required of public school teachers....
Its a charter school. I have no idea about the requirements for charter schools in TX.
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By Jetackuu 2016-01-25 11:15:57
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Anna Ruthven said: »
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Keyphrase, this isn't the 80's/90's anymore.
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2016-01-25 11:31:27
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Altimaomega said: »
Good thing a free thinking individual was around. But we can't have that! Suspended!

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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-01-25 17:28:19
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Altimaomega said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Alti she wasn't a zombie. Yet.

Free thinking? I thought you were against free thinking.
Are you trying to be sarcastic.. I can't tell..
An archaic term for liberals is free thinkers.
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By Asura.Darvamos 2016-01-25 18:05:18
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Jetackuu said: »
Asura.Chiaia said: »
locked up the inhaler to start with
It was pure speculation, we don't even know if there was one.

That is true but seeing how the girl said she was having an asthma attack. She probably did have asthma. Being a person with asthma I was required in both Florida and New Jersey to leave a spare inhaler each year at the nurses office for this very reason. So if I ever had an attack and didn't have my own on me that day at school.

If the school knew she has asthma and didn't require this its pretty stupid. Its the same as any kid with a severe allergy that isn't required to have an epipen at school.
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By Altimaomega 2016-01-25 19:20:59
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Altimaomega said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Alti she wasn't a zombie. Yet.

Free thinking? I thought you were against free thinking.
Are you trying to be sarcastic.. I can't tell..
An archaic term for liberals is free thinkers.

Get with the times. Liberals stopped being free thinkers when Clinton was in office.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-01-25 19:29:23
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Altimaomega said: »
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Get with the times. Liberals stopped being free thinkers when Clinton was in office.
Oh you are such an optimist.

/laugh

I mean I really like you for a lot of reasons despite our political differences, your optimistism is but one.

Free thinking became all but illegal during the Viet-Nam war. I am pretty sure during Nixon's phase but it could have been under Johnson.
 
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