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By Odin.Godofgods 2015-11-19 11:29:33
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Obama Flatly Refuses French President’s Invitation To Join Forces Against ISIS



It’s hard to believe, but France is stepping up to the plate after the Paris attacks, vowing to take the fight directly to ISIS. To that end, French President Francois Hollande has ordered his forces to carry out strikes on the terrorists in their main stronghold of Raqqa in Syria.

Even more shockingly, the French socialist has called upon President Obama to “join our forces” in combat against the ISIS caliphate, a far cry from the impassioned refusal of the French to support the U.S. in the war in Iraq 10 years ago.

But now that he has an opportunity to lead a concerted, multilateral effort against the jihadists, Obama has completely rejected his offer to form an alliance to take down this infestation.

After flatly declining Hollande’s invitation, Obama hammered Republicans who say that he should pursue an aggressive course of action against the Islamic State like the one the French president is now engaging in. He even insinuated that responding to his critics was beneath him, sneeringly stating “I’m too busy for that,” when asked about such criticisms.

Although Obama likes to talk big and tough when the subject of defeating ISIS comes up, he becomes very shrill and very defensive when he is questioned about his strategy against the terrorist organization. After a year of airstrikes and training local forces, the group still exists, and the only thing Obama can do is belittle conservatives for pointing it out. Per remarks of his reported in the Daily Mail:

"If they think somehow that their advisers are better than my joint chiefs of staff or my generals on the ground, I want to meet them. And we can have that debate."

That was a jab at Republican presidential candidate Dr. Ben Carson, who said last week that China was actively involved in the Syrian civil war, and suggested his intelligence sources were better than the White House’s.

He also took a swipe at Donald Trump, the GOP’s front-runner, who has become fond of claiming that America ‘doesn’t win anymore.’

"What I’m not interested in doing,’ Obama groused, ‘is posing or pursuing some notion of American leadership or America winning – or whatever other slogans they come up with – that has no relationship to what is actually going to work to protect the American people and to protect the people in the region who are getting killed and to protect our allies and people like France."

However, others are not nearly as impressed with the President’s response as he presumably is. According to Breitbart:

"The president has apparently lost the press — who seem to be more hawkish than Obama appears — questioning him repeatedly on the need to change his strategy after ‘more than year-long bombing campaign in Iraq and in Syria has failed to contain the ambition and the ability of ISIS to launch attacks in the West."

Now, France is taking a more active military role in the war against ISIS and looking back as Obama continues to try to lead from behind, claiming successes in the face of what he obtusely calls ‘setbacks.’

In a statement, Republican National Committee chairman Reince Priebus said, ‘Never before have I seen an American president project such weakness on the global stage, let alone at a time when the world is in such desperate need of the leadership that only we can provide.’

Others question if America can actually provide that leadership while this president still holds office.”

A question very much worth answering, Mr. President.

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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-11-19 11:33:19
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Title is wrong. edit: title was fixed

And also a rather restrictive and somewhat misleading article to make it another Obama case when it isn't. All of Europe minus Russia so far has said they don't wanna go to war with France.
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By Jetackuu 2015-11-19 11:41:43
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"truthandaction.org"

mmhmm
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By Sylph.Xijaah 2015-11-19 11:47:20
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actually EU is supporting france, and it couldnt be otherwise since EU's article 42.7 is there for that purpose.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-11-19 11:48:51
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No one is sending troops or planes to Syria.
 
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By Pantafernando 2015-11-19 19:09:42
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Well, Obama is ISIS father, why one would believe he would take any action against them?

Like it or no, Putin and Al Assad are the best solution occident can come up at this moment, when US lacks a decent leader. While France and EU starts first steps to send troops there, what does Obama? Criticize them as if videogame bombing is a solution for anything. Well, criticize is always easier than actually solving something.

Last week US had their best action: they managed to kill "Jihan John". While that happened, over 100 people were killed in France. Well, now ISIS will need to change their butcher. Those americans, sure they give too much trouble for those valiants, dont they?
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2015-11-19 19:20:27
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lol
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2015-11-19 19:30:33
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Pantafernando said: »
Well, Obama is ISIS father
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By Pwolf Drkgawd 2015-11-19 19:32:45
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Asura.Floppyseconds said: »
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
No one is sending troops or planes to Syria.

Just bombs.


Obombma!
 
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By Garuda.Chanti 2015-11-19 20:10:56
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So who are the surrender monkeys of 2015?

It ain't the French, it ain't Obama.

Pass the "freedom fries" please.
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By Odin.Godofgods 2015-11-19 20:37:41
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Bismarck.Josiahfk said: »
I'm seeing a pattern when godofgods makes threads.

Iv said many times, i post things i find interesting. I dont go searching for articles or any of this stuff, its just stuff that comes across my screen one way or another. Most never gets mentioned. Only the stuff i find interesting enough gets posted.

This i found interesting. The french going to battle while others bug out. Dont hear that to often. Interesting. - US spent so much time complaining during the afghan days that other countries wouldnt help and now that someone else is stepping up (for w/e the reason) and we back away. Interesting. - Trying to defeat or weaken to the point of near defeat an enemy with only aerial/naval type bombardment has proven ineffective. Proven with the bombardment of Iowa Jima, and more recently proven with strikes in afghan and iraq, that they alone were not enough. Yet the government seems to be doing it yet again with hopes of different results. Interesting.. kinda.

Ppl argue many points of view and beliefs and what they think on any given topic/event. It can be interesting to read some times.

There is no real theme other then interesting. Iv posted stuff from china to russia to france to england to usa. Politics, dem, repub, independent. World cultural, gaming cultural acts of good will. My topics are fairly diverse. Whats not diverse is the response. Pretty much all good will or up beat topics get next to no response. Which come to think of it.. is kinda interesting in itself.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2015-11-19 20:44:16
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A few French airstrikes really doesn't mean anything. The US has still, far and away, conducted more airstrikes in Syria than anyone else (over 1k). If the French, or the Russians, or anyone from Europe, actually commit to sending an established ground force to combat ISIS, get back to us. No one wants to send ground troops, not even the "mighty" Putin.
John McCain is pitching a plan that would send 10k American troops to Syria, good luck selling the American public on that, or even Congress, or a Presidential candidate. Ok, Lindsey Graham supports it, so I guess he can check that box. Its all posturing. As of right now, no one is doing more in Syria than the US. I don't see that changing anytime soon.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2015-11-19 20:55:28
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I might remind you about the Republican term "Surrender Monkeys."

Or, for that matter, "Freedom Fries."

Do you think the French have forgotten those?
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By Shiva.Francisco 2015-11-19 21:10:41
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
I might remind you about the Republican term "Surrender Monkeys."

Or, for that matter, "Freedom Fries."

Do you think the French have forgotten those?

1: Groundskeeper Willie is a Republican?

2: What about American'ts?
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By Hades.Altimaomega 2015-11-19 23:36:38
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
I might remind you about the Republican term "Surrender Monkeys."

Or, for that matter, "Freedom Fries."

Do you think the French have forgotten those?

I think the vast majority of french could care less, just like the vast majority of america.
 
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By Titanfoo 2015-11-20 01:16:59
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Odin.Godofgods said: »
Others question if America can actually provide that leadership while this president still holds office.”

This is clearly not about helping France. This is clearly not about mourning a tragic event that happened in France. This post is just another Obama hater that is wasting his time. He can't run and win again so focus your hate on Hillary.

If the US has decided to let the Eastern world handle a war that is happening in the EAST then good. I think we deserve to not put out soldiers in harms way again, at least for now.

Meanwhile France is still taking in Syrian refugees while every Republican has voted to refuse accepting these people that are locked in fear of losing family and loved ones by the militant group ISIS. The ignorance is simply staggering, afraid to say it's not surprising though. Maybe France will be lucky enough to find themselves a Donald Trump and they can talk ISIS into building a wall around themselves.
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2015-11-20 01:20:33
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No duh.

It's just political theater as usual, when things like this happen, and people who are new to politics or naive haven't caught on yet.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Tesseracta 2015-11-20 01:28:08
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"The Internet has given everybody in America a voice. For some reason, everybody decides to use that voice to *** about movies everything."
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By Bahamut.Genevie 2015-11-20 01:28:57
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Watch this space, if the ISIL promised attacks happen, see if someone changes the tune.In the meantime some people should stop feeding ISIL by hating on Muslims. Let's not turn a peaceful religion towards ISIL because we tarred everyone with the same brush.
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2015-11-20 01:35:02
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We all know what will happen.

'Merica, the home of the free and the brave, at least until things at a little rough. Then we'll simultaneously poo our pants and give up our freedom for the illusion of more security.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Tesseracta 2015-11-20 01:47:57
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This is what I think. It doesn't make any sense and it's incoherent. But, that's what I think.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-11-20 05:16:44
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Odin.Godofgods said: »
Dont hear that to often
We talked about it for a week, where were you? lol

Odin.Godofgods said: »
has proven ineffective
Sending troops is even worse. When you destabilize a region either you remain there(and you are de facto an occupant), or when you leave there is the proverbial power vacuum which has the potential to worsen an already bad situation.
Everyone is doing the right thing now by not getting directly involved. Supporting the people fighting for their homeland is the right course of action, the only problem is like usual political, as USA wants to get rid of Assad and are afraid that arming him might backfire later(which is not wrong considering he's a shitty dictator, but I can't think of many other options).
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By Odin.Godofgods 2015-11-20 06:56:39
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Titanfoo said: »
If the US has decided to let the Eastern world handle a war that is happening in the EAST then good.

citizens said the same thing at the start of ww2 with germeny'

(just pointing that out)
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By Phoenix.Morier 2015-11-20 07:53:07
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Pantafernando said: »
Well, Obama is ISIS father, why one would believe he would take any action against them?

Like it or no, Putin and Al Assad are the best solution occident can come up at this moment, when US lacks a decent leader. While France and EU starts first steps to send troops there, what does Obama? Criticize them as if videogame bombing is a solution for anything. Well, criticize is always easier than actually solving something.

Last week US had their best action: they managed to kill "Jihan John". While that happened, over 100 people were killed in France. Well, now ISIS will need to change their butcher. Those americans, sure they give too much trouble for those valiants, dont they?
Most idiotic thing I have read recently. Thank you.
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