Make A Mythic In 1 Day Challenge!

Sure it's useful.

It's not going to stop the other seventeen members of the alliance from yelling "Haste! Flurry! Cure!" though.

Lies, nobody invites a RDM anymore! BRD/COR/GEO or GTFO!

Prices on Sylph are holding steady. I bought some at 5k and some at 3k last week, but demand seems to be keeping the prices at their pre-update amounts.

Fixed that for you.

And yes, I get enough requests for me to RDM. I just hate buff rotations in an alliance of more than ten or so.

Hey all, I just returned to XI from a 2 year hiatus and have a question, with the new KI's from Rhapsodies is building a Relic weapon even worth it anymore or should I just focus on making Mythics for everything now?

Just focus on a mythic unless you're BRD or PLD.

Actually, the real answer is "don't bother unless you're in it for the long haul, whatever that may be."

I would say that Aegis, Ghorn, Yoichi (for sam) and Anni are relevant.

Thanks, this isn't my first character on XI, my old character was one stage away from Ammano on SAM before I had to leave the game, decided to come back for Rhapsodies so I could see the end and promised myself I would finish building either a relic or mythic before the end. Was just wondering which was better now.

Better is relative.

What's best for your play style?

rdm's party role is quite dynamic. It gets pushed into a pink mage role by poor battle mechanics and player perceptions, but a good rdm will make use of all their tools, including dealing damage. Murg offers insane magic accuracy while letting rdm take advantage of their front line durability and ability to offer party support from that area of the field. It's a great weapon for a great job that is rarely played well or invited.

Mythic is the best choice at this point.

Vajra and Koga have been a blast to play with for me.

I think the WHM club would be nice if you like to cure and get a lot of /tells for groups.

BST / Pupp Weapon would be a lot of fun now that those jobs have received some buffs in the past 6 months.

I wouldn't do rng/cor/blm.

You can substitute weapons that are in skirmish or from a boss that will perform just the same. (there is a staff out right now that is 4 MAAB less then the mythic /cry )

Yoichi and Anni aren't worth it since March's enmity adjustment. RNG gets more damage from spamming JR and won't pull hate regardless.

Think he means Yoichi for SAM, but I could be wrong.

I would think so. Reasoning: (for sam)

I have found Annihilator to be still quite good, primarily when I help with content clears for returning players.

And in Vagary where hate is incredibly wonky.

Which changes nothing.


Rangers aren't pulling hate over healers or BLMs there, and if they are, Anni isn't saving them.

AND EVEN IF I WERE WRONG, "hey guys let's spend 60 mil on an item with limited application in one event" is pretty weak.

Well, Sam doesn't use yoichi because of the enmity, but because of slashing resistances, namas, and racc. Either way, niche or not, Sam gets use out of yoichi that nothing else in that slot or situation even come close to.

Or they could just put a point in Apex Arrow and use Cibitshavore for the extremely limited range of circumstances where any of that applies, and put the 60 million they're saving towards Koga or almost anything else that would reap far greater dividends than Yoichi.

Sheesh, you guys make it sound like Muwingya is at the end of every event. Making Yoichi for SAM because sometimes things have slashing resistance is like making Gungnir because sometimes your Angon is on cooldown.

And I see less of it in bazaars than I did before the update hit. Maybe some of the reason is people doing the new stuff, or maybe some of it is more people starting a mythic because they got the idea that the change would open the alex floodgates. But it does seem like the price of what alex does appear is now 6k rather than 7k.

We're just going to have to agree to disagree, then.

If someone's playgroup and style work with it, and the person in question wants it, then it's worth it.

Otherwise you're paying for a character that you allow others to dictate choices for, and that's not cool.

I'm not the one telling a guy asking what he should work on for weapons that spending 60 million gil on a bow that will make him imperceptibly better in a vanishingly small number of group events he will actually play is totally a worthwhile investment of his time! I mean, if somebody wants the damn bow, knock yourself out, but we're only talking about this because somebody asked what he ought to do.

You guys seriously sound like this salesman I once met who tried to convince me that spending $3500 on a new set of (probably very nice; better than Yoichi!) pots and pans would totally change my life.

Looks in the dictionary.....

Holy ***, this is an actual word!

I think the real incentive to finally doing Mythics for most people is the fact that they don't have to stay on top of doing Assaults, etc. on a regular basis. One way or another, people will find or farm Alexandrite, but it was important to be doing Einherjar daily and Assaults frequently. From watching others, it seems most people prefer to focus on one or two requirements at a time, rather than all of them on a daily basis.

I know! Isn't it great?!


The reason I and everyone I've spoken to have finally started working on ours is that at last we are assured that there's nothing else we could be working on to reap more efficient gains. I finally know for sure this 80 million I'm sitting on will never have a better use than alexandrite for Terpsichore.

I'd rather sever a limb, but good luck.

Apex isn't good, though, like, at all; a Namas SAM will crush an Apex SAM pretty handily. Any of the limited 119 options for SAM give up too much precious racc, so now you're pairing the inferior weaponskill with the inferior weapon. Yes, you don't use ranged on SAM much but having it as an option is nice, and Yoichi is head-and-shoulders above any other ranged option in those instances. Also, it's great fun, and Yoichi is still the second-best ranger dps option (best, when you need the racc or if you don't have perfect Phaosphelia augments).

It's not that there are a ton of uses for it, more that it fills a niche nothing else does. People are saying there's no reason to make most relics with mythics being so easy now. Koga is awesome, but it replaces Amano, not Yoichi, which is still the only way SAM gets access to their best ranged weaponskill and the necessary racc to make it worth using. It's not an everyday thing, and you should work on koga first. But, for a lot of people, especially before they eased the cooldowns on ToAU content, assaults/ichor/tokens could easily take much longer than buying the necessary alex, and spending 60 mil while waiting for tags is literally a few days work for anyone who is motivated.

I have not disputed any of that. I'm just saying you guys are playing the 2015 version of the "if you don't have the 5% evasion you get from spending 5 million gil on emperor's hairpin you have no business playing NIN" game. The stuff you are talking about doesn't matter, hasn't mattered since Apex was introduced and SAM got a ranged weapon skill without /RNG, and will not matter at any point in the future.

If you want to make me a Yoichi for my SAM, you are welcome to!



my god this is unbelievable *** and you know it, man

"it's cool, bro, just get 60 million gil even though the only way you can make money since you just came back is pretty much to trade in sparks; shouldn't take more than a couple days, and then you can buy a weapon you'll probably never use"

explain to me the process of making 60 million gil in a "couple days" on your own

One dream I didn't think possible a few years ago:

Skirmish stones, marrows, scorias. Different for every server but 15-20m for a few hours a day isn't unrealistic.