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Prototype Pearl of Ashen Wings: Vagary
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By Bahamut.Lyncath 2015-03-28 17:40:08
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Has anyone figured out where the entry point for this Vagary battlefield is?

It's a real mystery. This is given to you once you clear the Deathborne, Duskbrood, and Brash Gates of Vagary by the same NPC who gives you entry items for all of the aforementioned. As it stands we have access to 119 Empyrean Feet/Head/Hands unlocked while Legs and Body remain locked, clearly behind the clears of Perfidien and another yet-to-be discovered NM. It's logical to assume that the battlefield with Perfidien in it is accessed via this Prototype Pearl of Ashen Wings but we cannot actually find where the "Exetant Gate" mentioned in the description of the KI is. It's also worth noting that the .dat and icon descriptions for Hades Claw, Dark Matter, Tartarus Chain, and I forget the name of the fourth material (two of which are presumably upgrade materials) are also in the game.

Could it be that SE have actually sold us short this update and have purposefully restricted the ability to fully reforge a 119 Empyrean set? If so that's an incredibly shitty thing to do and is frankly a huge tease. Giving us the Key Item AND the Records of Eminence objective but giving us no way to access the content because they don't want people making so much progress so soon, basically dragging things out.

Have they indeed done this or has someone found the access point?
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2015-03-28 17:50:45
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The dev notes say there is only 3 entrances.

The individual that has that KI needs to pay attention to their chat log when they are bringing the group in. They will be receiving messages in their log about it's status during the run.

We're working on trying to figure things out as well.



But the name of the NM Perfidien, refers to something that can't be trusted which hints at Hades/Balomar again.
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By Bahamut.Lyncath 2015-03-28 17:59:02
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There is a .dat modded version of Hades that was released with this update. Spira did a .dat mine on Wilddragonchase and it's there. Agree with you that it's Hades first form for Perfidien and Hades second form for the "final boss".

Seems very bizarre that SE would add the Records of Eminence and entry KI for a battlefield without the battlefield itself being in the game. That'd be a hell of a tease if it were so.
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By Asura.Highwynn 2015-03-28 19:09:31
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Did you guys check in Rakaznar Turris?
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2015-03-28 19:26:33
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Bahamut.Lyncath said: »
There is a .dat modded version of Hades that was released with this update. Spira did a .dat mine on Wilddragonchase and it's there. Agree with you that it's Hades first form for Perfidien and Hades second form for the "final boss".

Seems very bizarre that SE would add the Records of Eminence and entry KI for a battlefield without the battlefield itself being in the game. That'd be a hell of a tease if it were so.

For sure

Perfidien = Hades Form 1
Plouton = Hades Form 2

Thats just going by the definitions of their names etc. i.e Pluto = Hades, Plouton being a greek variation of it's spelling.

Checked Turris, there is nothing new there.
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By Sylph.Jeanpaul 2015-03-28 19:53:05
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After checking the .dats for Outer, Inner, Turris, and (U), I didn't find any "Exetant Gate", or even any other kind of Gate except the original 3.
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By Bahamut.Lyncath 2015-03-28 20:10:43
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Perhaps it's something that actually appears within the Lv130 areas that opens up after specific conditions are met?

Go theorists go!

Edit: Found this on BG.

The next two bosses have no associated helper mobs in the .dats. They just appear alone below the Formor chamber (Perfidien and Plouton). It's probably going to be a random chance of popping after the boss that's proportional to your content level.

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/125279-Vagary-Findings/page6
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2015-03-28 20:37:58
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Yeah hes been on the hunt.
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By Leviathan.Krysten 2015-03-29 06:03:15
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we did have 130 open up bt then it changed back to 128, without being the leader not sure what all happend but we beat all 3 today
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By Bahamut.Lyncath 2015-03-30 11:44:04
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According to BlueGartr it seems that a group has popped and beaten Perfidien at last. Details are sketchy at the moment, as to be expected, but it seems that it is indeed entirely random as to when he will show up.
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By Cerberus.Avalon 2015-03-30 12:26:37
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Bahamut.Lyncath said: »
According to BlueGartr it seems that a group has popped and beaten Perfidien at last. Details are sketchy at the moment, as to be expected, but it seems that it is indeed entirely random as to when he will show up.



I'm assuming the chance/random encounter with Perfidien is based on the Ashen KI fully 'upgrading' to the necessary color. An LS mate has her KI requesting "darkness", so it seems her KI craves the Fomor zone (maybe).
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By Ragnarok.Ejiin 2015-03-30 12:33:44
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I think we have it nailed down how to pop Perfidien 100% of the time. Think of it like a hidden RoE objective in order to upgrade the color of your KI.

Objectives to pop:

1) To get umbral hue, you have to kill 4-7 mobs with magic. Skillchain kills count, which is why we'd sometimes get umbral hue message in formor chamber. For this to count, the magic might have to be what the monster is weakest to. The monster also has to be claimed to count.

2) To get "an even darker shade of black" message, you need to kill 4-7 mobs with a magic burst'd spell. We did exclusively darkness SC with darkness based spells for MB killshot.

3) To get "indistinguishable from the dead of night!" message, you need to perform a double light(dark might count, but have not tested it) skillchain. Fudo>Kasha>Shoha>Fudo is confirmed to pop it 100% of the time as long as the monster you're performing it on doesn't die to it.

Notes:

•Once you meet objective 3, Perfidien will pop ontop of the person who entered, even if they are far away.

•The battle has a time limit. Perfidien will say something like "Why am I wasting my time with you" and he'll warp out. This happened to us when the person with KI was far away and we wasted time running back to them. Seems to be 7-8min time limit.

•When you pop Perfidien, you will lose your ashen KI, which means the same person can't spam ilevel130 over and over to farm this, but other people can still enter 130 for you.

•Once you beat Perfidien, you will gain an additional 15 minutes inside the zone, not 15min remaining as the message seemed to suggest.

•Perfidien will start out absorbing skillchain damage, then seemingly started doing 0 damage, then eventually started doing damage. Not sure what's triggering this, but a few times we swapped to Shoha only to kill without skillchains.

•Perfidien can level up multiple times and can be red/blue proc'd.
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By Bahamut.Lyncath 2015-03-30 12:43:42
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That... actually makes sense.

Thanks a bunch for sharing the information!
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By Cerberus.Avalon 2015-03-30 12:44:38
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Ragnarok.Ejiin said: »
I think we have it nailed down how to pop Perfidien 100% of the time. Think of it like a hidden RoE objective in order to upgrade the color of your KI.

Objectives to pop:

1) To get umbral hue, you have to kill 4-7 mobs with magic. Skillchain kills count, which is why we'd sometimes get umbral hue message in formor chamber. For this to count, the magic might have to be what the monster is weakest to. The monster also has to be claimed to count.

2) To get "an even darker shade of black" message, you need to kill 4-7 mobs with a magic burst'd spell. We did exclusively darkness SC with darkness based spells for MB killshot.

3) To get "indistinguishable from the dead of night!" message, you need to perform 4-6 or so double light(dark might count, but have not tested it) skillchains. Out of the 6-7 kills we did last night, it popped on the first double skillchain once, but all the rest took at least 5-6.

Notes:

•Once you meet objective 3, Perfidien will pop ontop of the person who entered, even if they are far away.

•The battle has a time limit. Perfidien will say something like "Why am I wasting my time with you" and he'll warp out. This happened to us when the person with KI was far away and we wasted time running back to them. Seems to be 7-8min time limit.

•When you pop Perfidien, you will lose your ashen KI, which means the same person can't spam ilevel130 over and over to farm this, but other people can still enter 130 for you.

•Once you beat Perfidien, you will gain an additional 15 minutes inside the zone, not 15min remaining as the message seemed to suggest.

•Perfidien will start out absorbing skillchain damage, then seemingly started doing 0 damage, then eventually started doing damage. Not sure what's triggering this, but a few times we swapped to Shoha only to kill without skillchains.

•Perfidien can level up multiple times and can be red/blue proc'd.

Dude, thanks for this information. Much appreciated!
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By Cerberus.Avalon 2015-03-30 12:47:40
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Btw, clearing Perifidien unlocks 119 Body slot, correct?
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By Bahamut.Lyncath 2015-03-30 12:53:45
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Cerberus.Avalon said: »
Btw, clearing Perifidien unlocks 119 Body slot, correct?
Legs apparently.
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By Cerberus.Avalon 2015-03-30 12:58:31
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Bahamut.Lyncath said: »
Cerberus.Avalon said: »
Btw, clearing Perifidien unlocks 119 Body slot, correct?
Legs apparently.

Legs, okay then. At least we know now.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2015-03-30 14:00:52
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Hope they don't do another Sea like pop condition for Plouton once you are in possession of a "false king"
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By Lyncath 2015-03-30 15:46:57
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Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
Hope they don't do another Sea like pop condition for Plouton once you are in possession of a "false king"
It probably is the same as the pop conditions for Perfidien but slightly different criteria such as number of Weapon Skills or something.
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