Bonanza Incl. Cat's Eye Version Of HMP

Awww yiss, ready for some broken dreams!!

lol @ only bot job points! I guess you don't cash in sparks and ites that come from that ah? I don't hate ,but that is the pot calling the kettle black.

Now, are you sure we aren't winning Adam Corolla?

It's really not too hard to save up the HPBayld you need while ranking up Coalitions. Even just casually buying I've gathered just shy of half the HPBayld in slightly over a month.

Casually, and gathered ~7000 h-p bayld in a month dont really go together.

~200m isnt casual, or close to that.

If you said 1/14k h-p bayld, that would be about 30m, and for 1 month thats closer to casual, as thats about 1 salvage run a day.

I was referring specifically to bayld by my earlier comment as everyone will argue about how "casual" 400 million gil is, but getting 131 million bayld in 8 months is ridiculous.

You don't get the bayld to get your own H-P Bayld.
You farm the GIL to BUY the H-P Bayld.

Playing the game 30 minutes a day, is Hyper-Casual. And that's all you need to finish in 8months ish.

If you actually log in for more than an hour a day, with an actual goal in mind, you'd be surprised how fast it can go. Even at a casuals pace.

you would be if you could, let's not be silly

the only reason you're so bothered by my botting is that it's better than your botting

I'm aware that gil is the only reasonable way to get the HP bayld. And if you're referring to Salvage as being the way to finish an ergon weapon in 8 months with only a 30 minute investment daily, let's do the math.

Ergon Weapon: ~400 million gil
8 months: ~240 days
Average alexandrite price: Varies, but let's say 7500 gil.

That's ~222 alexandrite daily. In 30 minutes. Is that considered normal?

Not even a little bit, I probably would if I were a moron who spends more than $100 a month on mules to octobox., But I do have some standards. They may be extremely low, but they do exist.

It's funny, I said the exact same thing about you bitching about better cheaters than you creating afterglow mythics out of thin air. Funny.
Me back in October, to you, Crying about cheaters better than you.

Salvage wasn't THE ONLY thing I meant, it was just the MAJOR point. In those 200 days, you can also:
Obtain some sparks, vouchers, etc.
Do coalitions.
In a VERY reasonable time frame.

Botters bitching about other people boting?

Who knew?

I have my main and 7 mules running coalition assignments daily. Getting an ergon off of that alone would take over two years. Sparks are nice, but they take time and aren't as viable as a serious gil source for people who don't multi-box. You can get an ergon in a reasonable time frame if you're smart about it, but some players have a horrible habit of making everything they do sound more casual and less time-intensive than it really is. "Oh yeah, I totally made a mythic in a month by playing only 10 minutes a day, with both hands broken."

According to everyone on here, I finished a mythic in one whole day to join the new bandwagon.

I totally did all 50 assaults with zero tags, and got all 150,000 nyzul tokens from zero, just so I could start the new bandwagon.

So by that logic, giving you an entire 8 months, is PLENTY of time.

I said casually buying, not casually farming to buy...

It is possible to have gil saved up before you start a weapon...

Also having multiple accounts helps quite a bit, as does having more than just a daily lolsalvage run as your source of income.

If I win I'm getting judgment day curiosity is killin this cat maybe whoever gets it will decide the fate of the salvage cheaters?

Nope, I got it all in 1 day, just to join the bandwagon, cause that's actually possible dude.

Look forward to my Ryuno Tomorrow, and my Koga, on saturday.

Oh I did, but even if I said it, no one would believe it, so I may as well play it up.

Yeeep. I stopped commenting the moment I realized who we were discussing this with.

Haters NEED someone to hate on, it's not by choice, it's addiction.

I just happen to love it. It's a mutual love thing.

I love to make people jelly, and they love to have fire-enraged hate from being jealous, everyone wins~

only one of the 'afterglow out of thin air' people managed to keep it unbanned, and he wasn't a cheater really, he just paid someone $5k to put them on his character.. yea i'd like to see it banned but it wouldn't really change anything because he'd just throw $15k at a new one

i pointed out the second version of the salvage exploit(you can still repop rampart floors and farm 500-600 alex a run! spread the word!) because it devalues alex from non-cheat runs and i don't feel like gambling my character on cheat runs

the jealousy argument doesn't really go anywhere when it's stuff i know how to do and chose not to use on my real characters for safety(fyi: those 'huge' exploits were as simple as changing one field of an outgoing 0x5B packet, you could do them with a 3 line lua script)

if it's an exploit that other people are using that i don't plan on using, of course i want it patched, why wouldn't i?

Did you really use "I cheat less than you so my cheating is ok"
as an argument on ffxi in 2014?

Personally, I don't give a rats *** if anyone bots in this game or not.

Like it really matters anymore.

You'd probably be in a position to care if you needed hmp/dross/cinder or something else thats a pain to get because you rely on the general populace to do the content to bring in a reasonable supply.

Some guy on my server has been grinding sparks and converting them to gil around the clock with a full alliance. 18 characters with capped sparks brings 9M gil into the game each trip.
Another person has pretty much unlimited airlixir +2 on a differently named mule each week and undercuts AH by 100k... riftdross here 700k-1M instead of 200-300k on other server. Our economy is all kinds of messed up.
Cinders pretty much instantly disappears if you put it up for sale at 3M+. Population has trended downward and empyrean material demand with it until botting roe+sparks to gil became a thing.

SE should have killed npcing sparks stuff ages ago because it just begs to be botted. People seem to be pretty bold nowadays with botting, seeing someone bringing 18 characters up to the roe npc on /follow to cash out sparks for npcing is pretty broken. Its blinkers all over again.