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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-12-19 10:49:25
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Jetackuu said: »
Oh like the Gramm-Leach-Bliley act of 1999 which repealed Glass-Steagall, which enabled the housing bubble which led to our economic collapse?

yeah...
Didn't enable, but did accelerate it.
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By Nazrious 2014-12-19 11:37:52
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Its ok man, The lending bubble is about to collapse too, unless they magically forgive all student loans for those in forbearance and avoid it, which would be a bailout for the banks again but a better PR stunt.

You can point out the same problem through out history over and over, people tend not to care.
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By Jetackuu 2014-12-19 11:51:33
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Jetackuu said: »
Oh like the Gramm-Leach-Bliley act of 1999 which repealed Glass-Steagall, which enabled the housing bubble which led to our economic collapse?

yeah...
Didn't enable, but did accelerate it.

Going to just have to disagree. It wouldn't have been possible with Glass-Steagall in effect.

I mean the other ***could have happened still, but that, no.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2014-12-19 12:09:31
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Nazrious said: »
Its ok man, The lending bubble is about to collapse too, unless they magically forgive all student loans for those in forbearance and avoid it, which would be a bailout for the banks again but a better PR stunt.

You can point out the same problem through out history over and over, people tend not to care.


Any indication on when that will be? I'd like to pull out before the plunge.
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By Bahamut.Alukat 2014-12-19 13:04:12
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The cake is not a lie. The idea that we live under capitalism and a free market now is the lie.

The liberal machine currently running the country has it's fingers in every major economic sector to the degree that in order for the sector to evolve, it requires massive participation by government.

This is not capitalism, this is not a free market.

well, part of capitalism is to accumulate resources, property and money.



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are you still thinking that it isn't capitalism?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-12-19 13:32:28
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Bahamut.Alukat said: »
well, part of capitalism is to accumulate resources, property and money.
And there we go. That is the basis of your argument, which shows how skewed your viewpoint really is.

Capitalism is "to accumulate resources, property, and money through investment and production" Omitting the second half of the definition destroys the entire meaning and skews it at being something which is not.

Also, your graph is flawed based by the fact that it doctors the data into showing a situation that does not reflect reality. Want proof in this assertion? Read the "Source: Author's calculations from the 2004 Survey of Consumer's Finances." Doesn't that sound fishy to you, or would you blindly accept it on the sole fact that it suits your needs?
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By Bahamut.Alukat 2014-12-19 13:36:02
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bahamut.Alukat said: »
well, part of capitalism is to accumulate resources, property and money.
And there we go. That is the basis of your argument, which shows how skewed your viewpoint really is.

Capitalism is "to accumulate resources, property, and money through investment and production" Omitting the second half of the definition destroys the entire meaning and skews it at being something which is not.

and here you proofed again that you are unable to read other users posts and that you are always switching the subject.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-12-19 13:43:24
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Bahamut.Alukat said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bahamut.Alukat said: »
well, part of capitalism is to accumulate resources, property and money.
And there we go. That is the basis of your argument, which shows how skewed your viewpoint really is.

Capitalism is "to accumulate resources, property, and money through investment and production" Omitting the second half of the definition destroys the entire meaning and skews it at being something which is not.

and here you proofed again that you are unable to read other users posts and that you are always switching the subject.
Wait, so you knew of the full definition, and still decided to omit the important part in your argument?
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By Bahamut.Alukat 2014-12-19 13:45:38
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bahamut.Alukat said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bahamut.Alukat said: »
well, part of capitalism is to accumulate resources, property and money.
And there we go. That is the basis of your argument, which shows how skewed your viewpoint really is.

Capitalism is "to accumulate resources, property, and money through investment and production" Omitting the second half of the definition destroys the entire meaning and skews it at being something which is not.

and here you proofed again that you are unable to read other users posts and that you are always switching the subject.
Wait, so you knew of the full definition, and still decided to omit the important part in your argument?

one part is the accumulation and another part is the way it's been done....... i was talking about the first part. since you are unable to diversify do us the favor and stop writing.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-12-19 13:55:52
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Bahamut.Alukat said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bahamut.Alukat said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bahamut.Alukat said: »
well, part of capitalism is to accumulate resources, property and money.
And there we go. That is the basis of your argument, which shows how skewed your viewpoint really is.

Capitalism is "to accumulate resources, property, and money through investment and production" Omitting the second half of the definition destroys the entire meaning and skews it at being something which is not.

and here you proofed again that you are unable to read other users posts and that you are always switching the subject.
Wait, so you knew of the full definition, and still decided to omit the important part in your argument?

one part is the accumulation and another part is the way it's been done....... i was talking about the first part. since you are unable to diversify do us the favor and stop writing.
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a political theory advocating class war and leading to a society in which each person works and is paid according

According to you, I just defined communism in it's fullest. Since only the first part, middle part, and part of the ending mattered to me, that's the full definition of communism, even though the full definition is:

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a political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocating class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs.

See, I can pick and choose definitions like you!
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By Bahamut.Alukat 2014-12-19 14:11:54
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and since when is "part of" equal to "full"? you really should start to learn languages and to learn the meaning of several words.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-12-19 14:43:19
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Bahamut.Alukat said: »
and since when is "part of" equal to "full"? you really should start to learn languages and to learn the meaning of several words.
Since when do you classify an economic standard by only using half of the actual definition?

You should learn how to articulate your sentences better by not inferring part of a definition as the full definition.

But you have posted 3 times and have yet to refute anything I said in counter of your "so-called" definition of capitalism.

Is your argument so weak that you have to deflect the issue away your viewpoint and more towards semantics?

I mean, you could say that your idea of capitalism and the "part of" argument has meaning, but on the post in question, you followed up with:

Bahamut.Alukat said: »
are you still thinking that it isn't capitalism?

So, you are referring to the entire post as your definition of capitalism.

Want to deny that?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-12-19 14:47:40
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Bahamut.Alukat said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
You should learn how to articulate your sentences better by not inferring part of a definition as the full definition.

Bahamut.Alukat said: »
well, part of capitalism is to accumulate resources, property and money.

just like i did?

So, you countered by accusing my reading ability and how I "skip" your words, and yet, you ignored nearly all of my post...

Here, read this:
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Bahamut.Alukat said: »
and since when is "part of" equal to "full"? you really should start to learn languages and to learn the meaning of several words.
Since when do you classify an economic standard by only using half of the actual definition?

You should learn how to articulate your sentences better by not inferring part of a definition as the full definition.

But you have posted 3 times and have yet to refute anything I said in counter of your "so-called" definition of capitalism.

Is your argument so weak that you have to deflect the issue away your viewpoint and more towards semantics?

I mean, you could say that your idea of capitalism and the "part of" argument has meaning, but on the post in question, you followed up with:

Bahamut.Alukat said: »
are you still thinking that it isn't capitalism?

So, you are referring to the entire post as your definition of capitalism.

Want to deny that?

Edit: aww, you couldn't handle the pressure and had to delete your post?
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By Bahamut.Alukat 2014-12-19 15:29:46
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Edit: aww, you couldn't handle the pressure and had to delete your post?

nah, just tired of talking to morons.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-12-19 15:33:48
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Now, maybe if you stop posting here, we can have an actual discussion on the topic at hand, without having flawed ideas interrupting the topic.
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2014-12-19 17:28:05
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Jetackuu said: »
Oh like the Gramm-Leach-Bliley act of 1999 which repealed Glass-Steagall, which enabled the housing bubble which led to our economic collapse?

yeah...

so agreed jet, your right, the glass steagall act that got repealed really benefited the big banks becoming a monopoly buying out competition sounds fair right having lesser choices?

I noticed a few times folks talking about the beauty of capitalism well with what we are seeing, capitalism and communism seem pretty darn similar regardless. With capitalism you have billionaires and millions with more free speech with giving MONEY to political campaigns giving them more pull with governmental choice and still receiving perks. With communism if your part of government you are basically royalty. Both of which we as a nation was not founded to be.
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By Jetackuu 2014-12-19 18:03:33
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Siren.Lordgrim said: »
Jetackuu said: »
Oh like the Gramm-Leach-Bliley act of 1999 which repealed Glass-Steagall, which enabled the housing bubble which led to our economic collapse?

yeah...

so agreed jet, your right, the glass steagall act that got repealed really benefited the big banks becoming a monopoly buying out competition sounds fair right having lesser choices?
Can you try that again? This time in English.
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By Jetackuu 2014-12-19 18:04:40
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Its ok man, The lending bubble is about to collapse too, unless they magically forgive all student loans for those in forbearance and avoid it, which would be a bailout for the banks again but a better PR stunt.

You can point out the same problem through out history over and over, people tend not to care.

I'd love for my students loans to be repaid, unfortunately I'm not currently behind...
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2014-12-19 20:58:15
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Its ok man, The lending bubble is about to collapse too, unless they magically forgive all student loans for those in forbearance and avoid it, which would be a bailout for the banks again but a better PR stunt.

You can point out the same problem through out history over and over, people tend not to care.

You know that's technically not considered magic at all. We could realistically forgive student loans and housing mortgages under the right leadership which we do not have with republicans and democrats. The banks of our great nation are out of control especially with the federal reserve at the head of it. We need another Andrew Jackson to put banks and corporations in there place to let them know who there boss really is. There boss is the American citizens themselves who they are treating unfairly and unlawfully.
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2014-12-19 21:15:49
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Nazrious said: »
Its ok man, The lending bubble is about to collapse too, unless they magically forgive all student loans for those in forbearance and avoid it, which would be a bailout for the banks again but a better PR stunt.

You can point out the same problem through out history over and over, people tend not to care.

You know that's technically not considered magic at all. We could realistically forgive student loans and housing mortgages under the right leadership which we do not have with republicans and democrats. The banks of our great nation are out of control especially with the federal reserve at the head of it. We need another Andrew Jackson to put banks and corporations in there place to let them know who there boss really is. There boss is the American citizens themselves who they are treating unfairly and unlawfully.

also note about AJ he was the first and last president we had that paid the nations DEBT completely off and grossed profit 36 million spread to each state bank where it was in the hands of the citizens. He was also the first president to have a assassination attempt taken on him. ( the banks and corporations did not like him cause he was helping the citizens)
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also note about AJ he was the first and last president we had that paid the nations DEBT completely off and grossed profit 36 million spread to each state bank where it was in the hands of the citizens. He was also the first president to have a assassination attempt taken on him. ( the banks and corporations did not like him cause he was helping the citizens)
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2014-12-21 00:31:47
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That is not a conspiracy about the assassination attempt on AJ. That is actual fact. It failed too, the would be assassin had 2 guns on him both guns misfired and did not shoot when he was in front of AJ. AJ replied to the would be killer by striking him down with his cane on the White house steps inside.
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2014-12-21 00:42:15
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I find it troubling that people are very fast to call out folks conspiracy theorist people when details are released 50-60 years later from being de-classified that evidence was fact. and trials were poorly handled during very important cases.

Why is it that every time we have someone who is trying to do something to benefit humanity or warn them about troubles they are killed. Sounds to me there is a few people who just do not want that to happen. We need to wake up and realize we are many and they are few and we have not forgotten those who were taken from us.
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By Voren 2014-12-21 00:48:16
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Edit: meant to post in another topic, my bad.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-12-21 08:08:00
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That is not a conspiracy about the assassination attempt on AJ. That is actual fact. It failed too, the would be assassin had 2 guns on him both guns misfired and did not shoot when he was in front of AJ. AJ replied to the would be killer by striking him down with his cane on the White house steps inside.
The assassin was insane. Richard Lawrence thought he was King Richard III when he tried to assassinate Andrew Johnson. He had a long history of mental illness prior to, leading up, attempting, and even afterwards, which showed that his insanity is actual and not made up.

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How in the world did you come up with the conclusion that Richard Lawrence was working for the banks, and that the banks were after Andrew Jackson's life in the first place is beyond anyone, besides you.

Here's your chance to prove this.
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By Bahamut.Alukat 2014-12-21 10:57:48
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_assassination_attempts_and_plots
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-12-21 12:37:07
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And your point is?

Also, didn't you say that you weren't going to post here anymore?

I would say that you not posting anything brought a more intelligent debate here, but we went from your idiotic definition of capitalism to a conspiracy theory on the assassination attempt of Andrew Jackson.

Heck, even Jet brought more towards the topic than either you or the conspiracy theorist. That's saying something!
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By Jetackuu 2014-12-21 13:40:58
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Seriously dude, grab your Mandau and hop in the game, I want to club some stuff.
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2014-12-21 18:03:30
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Siren.Lordgrim said: »
That is not a conspiracy about the assassination attempt on AJ. That is actual fact. It failed too, the would be assassin had 2 guns on him both guns misfired and did not shoot when he was in front of AJ. AJ replied to the would be killer by striking him down with his cane on the White house steps inside.
The assassin was insane. Richard Lawrence thought he was King Richard III when he tried to assassinate Andrew Johnson. He had a long history of mental illness prior to, leading up, attempting, and even afterwards, which showed that his insanity is actual and not made up.

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How in the world did you come up with the conclusion that Richard Lawrence was working for the banks, and that the banks were after Andrew Jackson's life in the first place is beyond anyone, besides you.

Here's your chance to prove this.

Why would someone want to kill a president? And why was everyone who did labeled mostly with mental illness?

Does it not seem odd to you that AJ being the first president to EVER pay off a nations debt may be a contributing factor for malevolent intent? Nicolas Bittle was not happy to lose his 2nd Bank of america also know as the federal reserve of that time.

Does it not seem odd that Lincoln was killed after paying the civil war off with Interest free currency to avoid placing massive debt banks would love to have on our country during the great rift after the war ended and of course the emancipation proclamation.

Does it not seem odd to you that Kennedy was killed because he proposed using a alternative currency that was interest free to lessen the power of the fed of our time and to prevent more debt as well with other factors obviously.

you see the three significant monetary points i gave you? Why call it conspiracy when there is facts regarding significant chances of helping our nation become a better place with less debt.

I have a few questions for you Kingnobody , i noticed the flag on your posts what would you know besides social media access your nation may grant you? Do you love your nation? Would you like to see transparency and be told not how to live and have a active voice that really matters that's not based on currency in possibly benefiting your nation as a whole?

Heres another thing too have you heard about some bankers committing suicide recently? Was they all crazy ? Was they all depressed and insain? Or did they know something that someone did not want anyone to know about.
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