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 Asura.Tarquine
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By Asura.Tarquine 2014-12-12 19:45:18
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Greetings new CP enthusiasts

As the SUP1 & gifts start to slowly sink in, I am seeing many shouts which demand <insert optimal support/DD>

Hey, if you want to spend 60+ mins shouting for a"5/6 CP pt: BRD {Can I have it}" then all power to you and the 4 other patient folks. I sincerely have nothing against people putting optimal parties together etc.

My [almost rhetorical] question is this, how many people realise that once a BRD/GEO/COR has capped their CP there is absolutely zero interest from them to join a CP party in that role? Further, do they also realise that anyone who has even been casually goofing about on BRD/GEO/COR with Outer RK, Delve, Incursion etc. will almost be capped on CP without even trying?

The same applies to most DD/support roles. CP isn't like merit points where you could use any job to fill them up.

To those who need it spelled out:

If you want to spend 60+ mins shouting for specific roles to swing and hit mobs in a pt where sushi can bridge a lot of the gap, then more power to you. At the same time, don't be a silly billy and give sh** to those who think that an hour wasted could be better spent doing something over nothing.

EDIT: This should have come with the following disclaimer: Warning - Drunk guy rambling
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2014-12-12 19:53:08
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Asura.Tarquine said: »
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Max Haste increases Attack Phase speed by 500% this is why people want just a BRD or GEO for this alone! it's a big thing.

besides the real pros take BRD npcs that you can call in party...!
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By Asura.Tarquine 2014-12-13 02:57:07
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Cerberus.Conagh said: »
besides the real pros take BRD npcs that you can call in party...!

I did suggest that, it wasn't received well.
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By Odin.Hirokei 2014-12-13 03:19:51
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"I don't care, but I'm going to tell you why I do."
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By Shiva.Ariaum 2014-12-13 03:30:54
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tbh 3 melee a mage and the 2 bard npcs are prolly the easiest way to go and would take like 3~ shouts to fill. But most ppl just wouldn't do it, as time passes it will become more acceptable as ppl accept no one wants to play these jobs for grinding exp/jp(Last I looked BRD JP where not really amazing to start with I can't speak for COR or GEO).

Down sides to it are if the melee person w/ the npcs needs to afk/afks/goldfish on fire, your pt will grind to a halt or at least comparably to with them. Also no sleeps for pulls adds if its relevant.
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By Asura.Tarquine 2014-12-13 03:41:59
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Odin.Hirokei said: »
"I don't care, but I'm going to tell you why I do."

See drunk guy disclaimer :-p
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By Ragnarok.Fabiano 2014-12-13 04:42:46
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we went out to try something new yesterday and it worked pretty well trio in Sih gates II, Umbrills are oneshot and dullahans go down to 20% with 1 ws . with 30% cp cape they gave us 1300-1500 cp each .

cor . cor . rdm . (wsavg 11800)
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By Chyula 2014-12-13 04:51:38
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you better cap jp before all the brd cap it. I don't think SE will change anything without broken another support job by giving an alternative to song haste. sch, dnc, sch will be overpower if they get an alternative to song haste, maybe SE should change garuda haste to replace song haste or changing rdm's haste II to something that can replace song haste.
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By Asura.Highwynn 2014-12-13 07:29:14
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Instead of shouting for a brd for 2hrs just call a trust
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By Bahamut.Tychefm 2014-12-13 07:59:32
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Dho Styls mobs (level 122) are not problem with trusts unless a few month ago you were like "nobody needs ACC ever" and built full Qaaxo C and Tinhaspa A for your Mnk for example.

Only Woh gates level (124-126) should need a real BRD/COR/GEO for Support.
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By cervelo84 2014-12-13 17:41:14
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910 + /checkparam and hunter roll + max accuracy food is enough for Who gates.

If your new to the game then with accuracy food and spark gear I suggest soloing in Morimar. Near flux 4 is a huge density of monsters and they give 150-400 cp a kill. With the event going on now it's near 500 a kill.
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2014-12-13 18:33:46
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Bahamut.Tychefm said: »
Dho Styls mobs (level 122) are not problem with trusts unless a few month ago you were like "nobody needs ACC ever" and built full Qaaxo C and Tinhaspa A for your Mnk for example.

Only Woh gates level (124-126) should need a real BRD/COR/GEO for Support.

I go with a WHM and call 2 brd npcs and a RDM.

72k CP an hour in current ampaign not a full party.............

whats the issue again? This is WoH Gates btw. People use the excuse if "those brds suck" and granted they do suck, but it's Easily doable you just have to not suck yourself and blame others for your incompetence.

PLay the job right and it's a non issue.

Furthermore~ BLU COR GEO is best Magic Burn Set up
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By Bahamut.Tychefm 2014-12-13 22:53:41
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Cerberus.Conagh said: »
Bahamut.Tychefm said: »
Dho Styls mobs (level 122) are not problem with trusts unless a few month ago you were like "nobody needs ACC ever" and built full Qaaxo C and Tinhaspa A for your Mnk for example.

Only Woh gates level (124-126) should need a real BRD/COR/GEO for Support.

I go with a WHM and call 2 brd npcs and a RDM.

72k CP an hour in current ampaign not a full party.............

whats the issue again? This is WoH Gates btw. People use the excuse if "those brds suck" and granted they do suck, but it's Easily doable you just have to not suck yourself and blame others for your incompetence.

PLay the job right and it's a non issue.

Furthermore~ BLU COR GEO is best Magic Burn Set up

The "issue" is the people you pick up for a Woh Gate party. For pickup "play your job right" usually doesn't float. You might want to bring the right jobs there.

If you go with friends throw everything I said out.
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2014-12-13 22:59:55
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Bahamut.Tychefm said: »


Cerberus.Conagh said: »
Bahamut.Tychefm said: »
Dho Styls mobs (level 122) are not problem with trusts unless a few month ago you were like "nobody needs ACC ever" and built full Qaaxo C and Tinhaspa A for your Mnk for example.

Only Woh gates level (124-126) should need a real BRD/COR/GEO for Support.

I go with a WHM and call 2 brd npcs and a RDM.

72k CP an hour in current ampaign not a full party.............

whats the issue again? This is WoH Gates btw. People use the excuse if "those brds suck" and granted they do suck, but it's Easily doable you just have to not suck yourself and blame others for your incompetence.

PLay the job right and it's a non issue.

Furthermore~ BLU COR GEO is best Magic Burn Set up

The "issue" is the people you pick up for a Woh Gate party. For pickup "play your job right" usually doesn't float. You might want to bring the right jobs there.

If you go with friends throw everything I said out.

True enough, but I'm a Big believer in saying "if you are not ready for this area, leave and do an easier one till you are".

We're not all supposed to clear all content within seconds, some people are better and will/do better, people who are not as good/geared should take the time to get at least some basic armors and learn how their jobs work.
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