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Not mind blowing at all. Athiests might think they don't subscribe to christian principles in the west, but the fact is the single most influence on their existence are christian values and history.
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Blazed1979 said: » Not mind blowing at all. Athiests might think they don't subscribe to christian principles in the west, but the fact is the single most influence on their existence are christian values and history. Cerberus.Tikal said: » Religion is tied to a supernatural narrative. Always. That doesn't necessitate a god or deity, but it is always supernatural in design. Blazed1979 said: » Not mind blowing at all. Athiests might think they don't subscribe to christian principles in the west, but the fact is the single most influence on their existence are christian values and history. I'm not going to quibble over such a minor difference of what should probably just be a discussion. Fair enough. Offline
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Cerberus.Tikal said: » Religion is tied to a supernatural narrative. Always. That doesn't necessitate a god or deity, but it is always supernatural in design. Blazed1979 said: » Not mind blowing at all. Athiests might think they don't subscribe to christian principles in the west, but the fact is the single most influence on their existence are christian values and history. I don't disagree as I can see you do give Christianity some weight in American Identity. I would say that with each passing day, however, it becomes more of a foot note. The age of religion is coming to a close. That doesn't mean I'm athiest by the way. I'm a hard core believer so much so that I would call myself a "Knower". However I find religion to be playing a much smaller role in people's personal values and belief system than it once did... at least in my 3 decades on this planet. Odin.Godofgods
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BUT since this thread seems so be on a religious topic anyway...
Ill include one 'Label' if you want to call it, that i haven't rly seen on these forums. And that's Naturalist. (Often times confused with, or are incorrectly refereed to as atheist.) Ill include a segment of video where Dr. Greg Graffin talks about it/explains it. (Assuming i cant get it to start at the time i want to it to. But the segment is from 4:55 to 7:00. Hair over two minutes. Its from a Q&A from his lifetime achievement award from the Harvard Humanist Chaplaincy.) YouTube Video Placeholder Edit: cant get time stamp to work. Is it even possible on this site? Odin.Godofgods said: » Ill include one 'Label' if you want to call it, that i haven't rly seen on these forums. And that's Naturalist. (Often times confused with, or are incorrectly refereed to as atheist.) Odin.Godofgods
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Jetackuu said: » Odin.Godofgods said: » Ill include one 'Label' if you want to call it, that i haven't rly seen on these forums. And that's Naturalist. (Often times confused with, or are incorrectly refereed to as atheist.) Both atheist and Naturalist are different. (At least form what ive found) I'll believe the US is secular when its money no longer has "in god we trust" on it.
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: » I'll believe the US is secular when its money no longer has "in god we trust" on it. shouldn't it remain? Money is what Americans worship after all' Odin.Godofgods said: » Leviathan.Chaosx said: » I'll believe the US is secular when its money no longer has "in god we trust" on it. shouldn't it remain? Money is what Americans worship after all' Pfft, you're just part of the conspiracy to make it "In Godofgods We Trust." Edit: Also, if we really wanted to make it accurate for Americans, it should be changed to "In TMZ We Trust". Odin.Godofgods
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: » I'll believe the US is secular when its money no longer has "in god we trust" on it. Odin.Godofgods said: » Jetackuu said: » Odin.Godofgods said: » Ill include one 'Label' if you want to call it, that i haven't rly seen on these forums. And that's Naturalist. (Often times confused with, or are incorrectly refereed to as atheist.) Both atheist and Naturalist are different. (At least form what ive found) Leviathan.Chaosx said: » I'll believe the US is secular when its money no longer has "in god we trust" on it. It's most unfortunate. Cerberus.Tikal said: » Leviathan.Chaosx said: » I'll believe the US is secular when its money no longer has "in god we trust" on it. wellp now he got what he wanted. over 50 syrian civilians killed by american airstrikes. Sure is good for Obama to be a Nobel Peace Prize winner otherwise someone would label this attack an "act of terror".
There's a video of syrian people trying to recover civilians. DAMN! Ragnarok.Corres said: » wellp now he got what he wanted. over 50 syrian civilians killed by american airstrikes. Sure is good for Obama to be a Nobel Peace Prize winner otherwise someone would label this attack an "act of terror". There's a video of syrian people trying to recover civilians. DAMN! Thing about that website is, it counts everyone who died in Iraq, not just citizens who got in the way of militants.
It even counts people who died in the hands of militants and terrorists too. How is that accurate to anything Bush ever did? Odin.Godofgods
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Ragnarok.Corres said: » wellp now he got what he wanted. over 50 syrian civilians killed by american airstrikes. Sure is good for Obama to be a Nobel Peace Prize winner otherwise someone would label this attack an "act of terror". There's a video of syrian people trying to recover civilians. DAMN! Since when did ppl come under the impression that war is nice peaceful event that only the bad guys can get hurt during? wtf?? Odin.Godofgods said: » Ragnarok.Corres said: » wellp now he got what he wanted. over 50 syrian civilians killed by american airstrikes. Sure is good for Obama to be a Nobel Peace Prize winner otherwise someone would label this attack an "act of terror". There's a video of syrian people trying to recover civilians. DAMN! Since when did ppl come under the impression that war is nice peaceful event that only the bad guys can get hurt during? wtf?? I blame Bethesda. They put that damn script in where you can't kill vital NPCs or child NPCs and now everyone thinks these people can't die in combat...damn those video games dehumanizing war and inciting violence! (And don't tell me every one of you didn't try stabbing that mealy-mouthed little brat son of the Jarl of Whiterun) Offline
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Asura.Refreshazure said: » Ragnarok.Corres said: » wellp now he got what he wanted. over 50 syrian civilians killed by american airstrikes. Sure is good for Obama to be a Nobel Peace Prize winner otherwise someone would label this attack an "act of terror". There's a video of syrian people trying to recover civilians. DAMN! You do realize he got the Nobel Prize just not being Bush I mean don't get me wrong Obama is making a few mistakes but nothing can top "president" Bush. 50 in compared to the civilians that died in Iraq during the Bush years. https://www.iraqbodycount.org Obama care is working despite the 24 hour news cycle on the conservative networks that it's the worst thing since Stalin considering Bush was never meant to be president the disaster that he caused was karma. You must live in a very deep hole with a huge rock on-top to believe Obama hasn't overtaken Bush in horribleness. Quote: O, bomber! Obama bombs 7th country in 6 years Not even gonna touch on the ACA because LOL. Offline
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I just called him O'bummer.
People quite often confuse bombing terrorist cells in a country with bombing a country...
They're not the same thing people, unless that country is being run by said terrorist cells. daoming said: » I just called him O'bummer. Offline
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Jetackuu said: » People quite often confuse bombing terrorist cells in a country with bombing a country... They're not the same thing people, unless that country is being run by said terrorist cells. Ahhh I see! So when they find a terrorist cell in New York, It'll be perfectly Okay to bomb the hell out of it and won't be considered Obama bombing IN THE USA! Because Terrorist! Please find something tall to jump off of troll. Altimaomega said: » Jetackuu said: » People quite often confuse bombing terrorist cells in a country with bombing a country... They're not the same thing people, unless that country is being run by said terrorist cells. Ahhh I see! So when they find a terrorist cell in New York, It'll be perfectly Okay to bomb the hell out of it and won't be considered Obama bombing IN THE USA! Because Terrorist! Please find something tall to jump off of troll. Your grammar is horrible as always. Also: New York isn't a war zone. Also, you can't read. I said there's a difference between "bombing a country" and "bombing a target in a country" it's a semantics argument, something I'm sure you wouldn't comprehend, but the implications and meanings are vastly different. Offline
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Jetackuu said: » Altimaomega said: » Jetackuu said: » People quite often confuse bombing terrorist cells in a country with bombing a country... They're not the same thing people, unless that country is being run by said terrorist cells. Ahhh I see! So when they find a terrorist cell in New York, It'll be perfectly Okay to bomb the hell out of it and won't be considered Obama bombing IN THE USA! Because Terrorist! Please find something tall to jump off of troll. Your grammar is horrible as always. Also: New York isn't a war zone. Also, you can't read. I said there's a difference between "bombing a country" and "bombing a target in a country" it's a semantics argument, something I'm sure you wouldn't comprehend, but the implications and meanings are vastly different. Wow straight to grammar AND semantics.. your not even trying anymore troll. |
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