Sigurd's Descendants: The Art Of Dragon Slaying.

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By Foxfire 2017-11-14 09:07:08
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Justuas said: »
Anyone care to tl;dr what ppl are arquing about
Spicy makes a guide saying that the average player looking into drg rema should make Trish because it's better in terms of effort v. reward (and generally, actually, as of writing); user on this forum takes offense to it, says wrongomiant is better because reasons, spends last five pages arguing against everyone else that "my spear is better than yours"

I may have glossed over details but if I don't care, you probably don't either

Edit: I did a typo
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By Bismarck.Lothoro 2017-11-14 09:37:25
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In an attempt to change the topic from the last 20 pages of RMEA debate:

What gear is worth getting for Spirit Link? Spicy’s guide has a nice outline of the pieces that enhance spirit link, but is the enhancement only a reduction of sacrificed HP? Are there any other enhancements to the buffs transferred, etc?
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By Ragnarok.Martel 2017-11-14 09:54:33
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Relic feet augment increases duration of transferred buffs. 5% duration per Empathy merit.

Empy hands remove additional debuffs from the wyvern.

Praktik earring has a straight spirit link+50 on it.. Presumably a very minor hp restored+ 50? But I haven't actually seen any testing on that.

EDIT: Oh, and there is one other way to increase the amount healed but it's pretty minor.

Spirit link has a MND mod. Basically every 1 MND = 2 additional HP restored, if I'm reading the formula right. Now I don't really recommend collecting MND gear for this, but you can at least fill in extra slots with whatever pieces have the most MND.

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Spirit_Link
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By Ackeron 2017-11-14 13:38:43
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Okay so this is hopefully taken care of now.

I get that people will disagree with things said on the internets but please try to at least remain more civil then the garbage that has gone on in the last few pages. If you cannot remain civil you can and will be removed from the discussion.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2017-11-14 20:44:18
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https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7LcJujrpsg-TzBGZ3ZUWmhVQlk

Sort of big update:
Added Ryu, added drakesbane gear, added drakes to stats tab. Ryu AM3 is supported and maintained, otherwise Ryu will use stardiver at 1K. Also fixed an issue with ws acc not applying. On the stats tab, ws acc is added to your acc total, but hit rate is not increased, so if wearing both fotia pieces, you only need 85% hit rate on the stats tab, but it is applying during ws calculation now. I also added a few pieces to go along with drakesbane. AM3 from ryu is also not applying to jumps properly, so for now I removed them until I get that figured out and will likely add them in with jump set options.

just need the exe out of dist folder and drg_equip.txt (even if you don't want to add your own equipment)

edit: if you downloaded before this edit, you'll want to get again. forgot a line that counts down ryu am3 so it never disappeared once active.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2017-11-15 22:23:02
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fixed an issue where changing stardiver gear also changed your drakesbane items and vice versa
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By Bismarck.Darcain 2017-11-19 21:09:38
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Ragnarok.Martel said: »
Relic feet augment increases duration of transferred buffs. 5% duration per Empathy merit.

Empy hands remove additional debuffs from the wyvern.

Praktik earring has a straight spirit link+50 on it.. Presumably a very minor hp restored+ 50? But I haven't actually seen any testing on that.

EDIT: Oh, and there is one other way to increase the amount healed but it's pretty minor.

Spirit link has a MND mod. Basically every 1 MND = 2 additional HP restored, if I'm reading the formula right. Now I don't really recommend collecting MND gear for this, but you can at least fill in extra slots with whatever pieces have the most MND.

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Spirit_Link

If anyone is familiar with editing bgwiki the Relic feet with augment should be added to DRG guide, and also mentioned on the spirit link page.
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By Foxfire 2017-11-19 23:48:43
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Regarding relic feet, since the augment is for empathy and not spirit link, it's not directly listed on SL. The equipment and its effect are both on the corresponding empathy page, however.

I'll mention the inclusion of the feet in the guide to spicy.
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By Cerberus.Shadowmeld 2017-11-20 09:38:40
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A couple of questions from someone picking up DRG again after a long time. I'm having trouble getting meaningful information from this thread at the moment as you have to go back too far to find any kind of posted equipment.

1. What is the goal as far as hit builds on drg now? Is a true 4-hit build even viable, or do you just run with a 5-hit and lots and lots of DA?

2. Which weaponskills do you make gearsets for? Obviously Stardiver (Drakesbane by extension) and Camlann's Torment. Sonic Thrust? Is that too dangerous to use because AoE?

3. Can we do any good 4/5 step SCs?

4. What priorities do you focus on for Jumps/High Jumps?

5. Same question but for Spirit Jumps/Soul Jumps?

Here is my current TP set. Basically, gear I have for my war or sam.

ItemSet 354518

Augments are:
Reienkyo: DMG:+23, STR+15, Accuracy+25, Attack+26
Valorous Mail: STR+8, Accuracy+20, Attack+25, DA+4
Valorous Mitts: Accuracy+39, Attack+35, DA+4
Valorous Hose: DEX+9, Accuracy+37, Attack+38, WSD+2

I'm using Valorous Mitts because I'm 1% Haste short from 25%, otherwise I'd use Sulevia's Gauntlets

Here is my Stardiver Set. Again, gear I already have.

ItemSet 354102

Same augments.
What do you do for Brigantia's? STR+30, Accuracy+20, Attack+20, DA+10? Would you do do the same for Drakesbane only Crit Rate instead of DA?

Would someone mind giving advice on where i can improve those sets?
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By Asura.Valguard 2017-11-20 12:03:53
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1. What is the goal as far as hit builds on drg now? Is a true 4-hit build even viable, or do you just run with a 5-hit and lots and lots of DA? If you're using anything other than Trishula or Ryunohige, a 5 hit with multi-attack is typically what you should shoot for.

2. Which weaponskills do you make gearsets for? Obviously Stardiver (Drakesbane by extension) and Camlann's Torment. Sonic Thrust? Is that too dangerous to use because AoE? Sonic Thrust is amazing. And allows for you to create distortion. I'll throw some examples in the next question of SCs. I think I currently use the same set of gear for Camlann's as I do for sonic thrust. You already hit the main WSs to gear for though

3. Can we do any good 4/5 step SCs?
Stardiver >>> Camlann's >>> Drakesbane >>> Camlann's
Drakesbane >>> Stardiver >>> Camlann's >>> Drakesbane >>> Camlann's
Stardiver >>> Sonic Thrust >>> Stardiver >>> (Stardiver)
(Once you get Trishula you can add the third Stardiver)
These are the main SCs I use. Top 2 are double light. Final one is darkness and then double dark once you obtain Trishula.
You could get crazy with the below SC. But good luck finding something that will either survive it or that doesn't interrupt you in some way. :)
Stardiver >>> Sonic Thrust >>> Drakesbane >>> Stardiver >>> Camlann's >>> Drakesbane >>> Camlann's

4. What priorities do you focus on for Jumps/High Jumps? I use the same gear as my TP gear. Maintaining your x-hit is most important in my opinion and then multi attack. Don't use jump/high jump for gaining TP if your wyvern is alive. High Jump still useful for hate loss if necessary.

5. Same question but for Spirit Jumps/Soul Jumps? See above.

Would someone mind giving advice on where i can improve those sets? Your sets are looking really good. I would re augment your valorous hose to multi-attack and str. I'm personally using Sulevia +2 Pants for Stardiver. If you've been gone a few months you've likely missed Spicy's guide. https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Here_Be_DRGs Fun to read through for a good refresher on drg and he hits on a lot of the different gear sets as you're progressing.

Edited because it made my eyes bleed with the way I had it bolded originally.
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By Cerberus.Shadowmeld 2017-11-20 14:39:19
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1. Based on this, I'm going to have to switch out Lissome Necklace for Anu Torque.

2. Cool

5. Yeah, I found that guide shortly after I had posted. I thought I had come across it earlier but was having issues.

I'll probably farm another Valorous Hose and start trying to augment it. I'm going to keep this one for now for my WAR anyway. Suleviaa +2 pants are what I'm looking at making with Ambuscade this month.
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